[HN Gopher] Element (Matrix) launches Chatterbox, end-to-end enc... ___________________________________________________________________ Element (Matrix) launches Chatterbox, end-to-end encrypted embedded chat Author : watsonkr Score : 36 points Date : 2022-07-07 21:57 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (element.io) (TXT) w3m dump (element.io) | t6jvcereio wrote: | Incidentally I tried matrix for the first time on the basis of | someone recommending it here in HN, and it's extremely slow | Arathorn wrote: | this is like saying "i tried the web, and it's extremely slow". | what server were you using? and which client on which platform? | bsaul wrote: | not sure i understand what the point is.. Embedded usually means | c2b communication, not c2c. The professional you're communicating | with is probably already hosting its computer's data on the | company's network... | midislack wrote: | Bonus - unlike Signal they don't need your phone number or DNA... | [deleted] | warning26 wrote: | Does it have export? | | Signal's complete inability to any kind of history backup is a | dealbreaker for me. | midislack wrote: | Just because there's no "official" way to access history as a | client in Signal doesn't mean the history isn't there. You'd | have to ask that "Moxie Marlinspike" or whatever his name is | fella. | tcfhgj wrote: | Element has. The app on the other side | | I think it's unlikely that this chatbox has export | functionality | maxloh wrote: | What is the benefit of end to end encryption in this scenario? | | There is no risk of service provider spying on you because you as | the business is the service provider. | tcfhgj wrote: | How does E2EE work here? How can the user know their | communication isn't being intercepted? | Arathorn wrote: | It's using normal Matrix olm/megolm double ratchet encryption. | | To track the identity of who you're talking to we can do TOFU | and/or normal out of band Matrix verification as per | https://github.com/vector-im/hydrogen-web/issues/518 - but this | isn't yet exposed in Chatterbox. We'll get it added, as without | verification you obviously can't spot a MITM. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-07-07 23:00 UTC)