[HN Gopher] Boeing CEO says planemaker could be forced to cancel...
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       Boeing CEO says planemaker could be forced to cancel 737 Max 10
        
       Author : thecosmicfrog
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2022-07-08 21:02 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.reuters.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.reuters.com)
        
       | ralph84 wrote:
       | Well, yes, when you are unable or unwilling to build the product
       | to modern safety standards, you should be forced to cancel it.
        
         | caycep wrote:
         | is the consensus that Boeing's engineering prowess is
         | unrecoverable now, post-McDD merger?
        
           | sklargh wrote:
           | I don't know if that is the consensus but I struggle to find
           | a major program there that isn't completely rotten.
        
             | MilStdJunkie wrote:
             | Yeah, I challenge anyone to show me a unconditionally
             | successful Boeing program post 2000 AD. Please. Please show
             | one to me. I am begging you here.
             | 
             | Aboulafia had like fifty graphs on exactly how Boeing is
             | doomed, at least as a unified company; they might survive
             | in pieces after a GE-style split. Big B is spending all
             | their money on precisely the wrong products, and leaving
             | the right products to die on the vine.
             | 
             | This . . this must be what it was like with the late stage
             | evolution of the Soviet design bureaus, but far, far, far
             | worse. With somehow less accountability.
             | 
             | No one inside knows what anyone else is doing, and they're
             | this close to just shipping boxes of parts and marking off
             | a successful delivery of a finished good.
             | 
             | How Boeing has avoided the Mother Lode of all Fines is a
             | mystery to me. Except it's not really a mystery, we all
             | know why, but . . please let me keep my illusions.
        
             | ethbr0 wrote:
             | MQ-25
             | 
             | F/A-18E/F
             | 
             | 777
        
       | einpoklum wrote:
       | Ah great, then US carriers could use their ordered 737-MAX 10's
       | to run all of those flights they keep cancelling lately. Silver
       | lining folks!
        
       | epolanski wrote:
       | What's the point of this plane? It's not that cheap, it's not
       | that good for fuel efficiency, it misses most modern (decade old)
       | systems like eicas. Seems another odd Boeing plane that woukd
       | only sell because the competition cannot fill all orders.
        
         | justapassenger wrote:
         | It being a refresh of old design, means it's cheaper to retrain
         | people (don't have to full training for the totally different
         | aircraft), a lot of your supporting infrastructure can stay the
         | same while being cheaper to operate.
         | 
         | And, in theory (ahm, MAX had some tiny, minor issues there)
         | should be safe and reliable, as it's based on well known and
         | tested platform.
        
           | cyanydeez wrote:
           | One of the charges in the MAX crashes were that _it did_ need
           | a whole new training class
        
           | kelseyfrog wrote:
           | That's a very nice way of saying that it finds a way to
           | extract profit from regulatory systems which 10yr olds could
           | poke holes in. /hj
        
         | ralph84 wrote:
         | Boeing ended production of the 757 18 years ago and they still
         | have no strategy for a successor besides more duck tape on the
         | 737.
        
         | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
         | Easy baggage loading at remote airports.
        
       | Fargoan wrote:
       | Trash it and send some executives and managers to prison
        
       | ethbr0 wrote:
       | >> _" the debts that we've had to accumulate"_
       | 
       | Like the $5B (and counting) for bungling the KC-46 design?
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-46_Pegasus#Flight_...
        
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