[HN Gopher] Linux Sucks 2022
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       Linux Sucks 2022
        
       Author : WhyNotHugo
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2022-07-08 21:37 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | velcrovan wrote:
       | Can someone explain what this is? Hard to dive into a recording
       | if I have no context and no idea if it's relevant to me.
        
         | rtznprmpftl wrote:
         | Bryan Lunduke (former community manager from OpenSuSE) does a
         | "Linux Sucks" Video every year where he (sarcasticly) points
         | out all the failings of Linux on the Desktop.
         | 
         | 50% painful.
         | 
         | 50% fun.
        
           | WhyNotHugo wrote:
           | He's always very right in his criticism. He points out all
           | the legit ways in which Linux sucks.
           | 
           | Each year I think to myself "yeah, it's terrible", but then
           | realise there's nothing better anyway. It sucks like we all
           | do.
        
             | worble wrote:
             | "Linux is the worst form of OS, except for all the others"
             | - Winston Churchill 1947, probably.
        
       | ElijahLynn wrote:
       | At 40:00 he says Linux desktop effects are back (e.g. Compiz).
       | Anyone have more details?
        
       | Enlarged9135 wrote:
       | people still care for a meme?
        
       | IronWolve wrote:
       | Linux desktop experience does suck, but, BUT, the powerful tools
       | and applications more than make up for it.
       | 
       | Desktop isn't unified (X11 or Wayland), libraries are not
       | unified, the drivers/sound system isnt unified. Its basically a
       | bunch of different flavors with issues that you are stuck with,
       | locked in with.
       | 
       | Google Android has the same binary blob hell for drivers. Chrome
       | OS has some powerful containers (on supported hardware),
       | unlocking more power.
       | 
       | Ubuntu versions are tied to projects, so google and other corps
       | make you use what version they want to dev on their platforms.
       | 
       | Redhat has the same issue, killing off centos community releases
       | for a streamed os platform. (Same as Suse)
       | 
       | Arch at least tries to fit the need of letting you upgrade, but
       | you still have the same issues with a unified platform, but
       | provides the applications, some apps are stale but at least they
       | exist in their community repos.
       | 
       | WSL is really just a platform to allow you to take the power of
       | the terminal to do so many powerful things, skipping the desktop,
       | allowing a windows desktop that solves all the issues linux has.
       | 
       | Pretty much, Windows with WSL, and Android emulation, you can do
       | anything. The only pure linux I have at home now is pi machine,
       | and I only use it as a console box.
       | 
       | But I still play with Arch in vmware (vmware supports nested
       | virtualization, virtualbox doesnt). Its amazing the power windows
       | can unlock linux
       | 
       | Now when the m2 mac mini's come out, I might just have to play
       | with virtualized linux as a desktop. Gaming, android/streaming
       | can fill the lack of games, just as you can do on linux.
        
         | goethes_kind wrote:
         | >Linux desktop experience does suck
         | 
         | There are sure a lot of improvements to be had, but I would
         | literally go crazy if somebody took away my Linux distros and
         | forced me to use literally anything else. Every other option on
         | the market forces a completely different way of computing that
         | is just ugly, inefficient, non-free and generally shit.
        
         | ncmncm wrote:
         | Linux desktop sucks, in absolute terms. Relatively, not.
         | Windows desktop sucks. Mac desktop sucks. Chromebook sucks.
         | Android sucks. Ipad sucks. Ios sucks.
         | 
         | Our standards are just really, really low.
        
         | selimnairb wrote:
         | I have been using Ubuntu on a new Dell work laptop for the past
         | 6 weeks and have been pleasantly surprised. Everything
         | basically works. My only complaint is that the machine fails to
         | wake from closed lid sleep at least once per week. So my M1 Pro
         | is by far my uptime champ for laptops (I sometimes go 30-40
         | days between reboots and it never crashes).
        
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         | rascul wrote:
         | > Linux desktop experience does suck
         | 
         | Not for me. Blackbox on X11 is exactly what I need and want.
         | Apps looking the same is not something I care about.
         | 
         | > Redhat has the same issue, killing off centos community
         | releases for a streamed os platform. (Same as Suse)
         | 
         | What is this about Suse? I'm on openSUSE (Suse's community
         | release) right now. 15.4 was just released.
        
         | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
         | If Windows was so bereft of design flaws why couldn't they
         | provide a superior terminal experience without inventing WSL?
        
           | pjmlp wrote:
           | They did. PowerShell.
           | 
           | WSL is for the folks that buy macOS instead of supporting
           | Linux OEMs, because they couldn't care less and are happy
           | witb whatever POSIX CLI they can get.
        
           | all2 wrote:
           | Because Powershell dev is opinionated -- necessarily so --
           | and to appeal to Linux devs you need a way to make a Linux
           | command line available. I had mine built to run Arch Linux
           | and Fish terminal. It worked pretty well, but compared to a
           | raw Linux machine it is slow.
        
         | jsemrau wrote:
         | I am using Ubuntu as my main Desktop for the last 15 months and
         | am much happier with it than 15+ years on the Mac.
         | 
         | Virtual Desktops is really powerful to structure different
         | workflows. Office can be covered entirely though online
         | solutions.
         | 
         | Yes, Gaming doesn't fly. But that also holds true for a Mac.
         | Just get a PS5.
        
           | drdec wrote:
           | > I am using Ubuntu as my main Desktop for the last 15 months
           | and am much happier with it than 15+ years on the Mac
           | 
           | But the million dollar question is, which desktop environment
           | are you using?
        
       | ncmncm wrote:
       | I liked this one: "Linus Torvalds threatens to punish developers
       | by putting Rust in the Linux Kernel"
       | 
       | https://lunduke.substack.com/p/linus-torvalds-threatens-to-p...
       | 
       | "I really didn't want to have to do this," stated Torvalds. "But
       | you all screw around too much. Nothing seems to get through to
       | you. Maybe a little time with Rust will teach you a lesson."
        
         | Pr0ject217 wrote:
         | lol
        
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