[HN Gopher] US companies partner on nuclear recycling technology
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       US companies partner on nuclear recycling technology
        
       Author : PaulHoule
       Score  : 36 points
       Date   : 2022-07-11 18:57 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | LatteLazy wrote:
       | If we push ahead with nuclear as people want, there will be
       | trillions in clean up costs to be claimed.
        
         | PaulHoule wrote:
         | Humans already emit 35 billion metric tons of CO2 a year with
         | what ultimately will be deadly effect. (Just a matter of time
         | before a hot summer kills 1 million plus people in India.) $100
         | per ton is an optimistic figure for capturing it out of the
         | atmosphere and injecting it underground, so that is $3.5
         | trillion a year to clean out the stuff we put in that year.
         | 
         | Fossil fuels: what are you going to do with the waste?
        
         | fundad wrote:
         | Money Printer Go Brrr
        
         | narrator wrote:
         | There will also be a lot of really cool work in tethered and/or
         | autonomous robotics.
        
           | ge96 wrote:
           | Automata (film)
        
             | narrator wrote:
             | I was reading about a lot of these nuclear cleanup projects
             | at Hanford and Fukushima and the only way to do it is with
             | specially designed robots that are highly radiation
             | resistant. This is difficult since the radiation regularly
             | causes them to glitch out permanently and radio
             | communication doesn't really work with that much radiation
             | around. They usually have to be tethered to be
             | controllable.
             | 
             | https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/26/16030222/fukushima-
             | nuclea...
        
               | ge96 wrote:
               | I see that is pretty interesting. Surprised hardening
               | isn't enough.
               | 
               | My comment was more on humanoid robots being powered by
               | small nuclear batteries.
        
               | PaulHoule wrote:
               | Hanford is a different situation from Fukushima in that
               | the wastes have had a long time to decay at Hanford but
               | Fukushima is still pretty fresh.
               | 
               | The trouble at Hanford was that the current methods for
               | reprocessing produce a stream of fission product
               | raffinates that they originally stored in liquid form in
               | tanks. Later on the technology was developed to trap the
               | fission products in glass which is not too hard to
               | dispose of (and that decays mostly in 500 years) but the
               | Hanford tanks had started to fail before then.
               | 
               | Future reprocessing plants will store liquid waste
               | temporarily but like THORP in the UK and COGEMA in France
               | they will plan on vitrification from day one.
        
         | omginternets wrote:
         | Are you suggesting this is somehow different from coal, oil and
         | gas? The only difference is that nuclear waste actually _can_
         | be cleaned up and /or contained in the first place. You are
         | simply externalizing the health and environmental impact of
         | fossil fuels and calling it a day.
         | 
         | (I am charitably assuming that you know enough about renewals
         | to know that they are not currently a realistic replacement for
         | the entirety of FFs.)
        
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