[HN Gopher] Deepest Infrared Image of Universe
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       Deepest Infrared Image of Universe
        
       Author : potiuper
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2022-07-11 22:24 UTC (36 minutes ago)
        
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       | interestica wrote:
        
       | pelagicAustral wrote:
       | Superb! I just saw this on Sky News and came here first, I just
       | knew the source was going to be around.
        
       | spullara wrote:
       | I really hate that you can see artifacts from the hex mirrors.
        
         | _moof wrote:
         | They aren't from the mirrors, they're from the struts.
        
         | ceejayoz wrote:
         | Explanation: https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/james-
         | webb-spikes/
        
         | penneyd wrote:
         | Hubble had diffractions spikes too, four of them from the
         | struts holding the secondary mirror.
        
       | spullara wrote:
       | Who is flagging this extremely valid criticism of this photo
       | release circus? I totally agree with this sentiment and it is
       | something that science teams will have to reflect on for future
       | communications. This was absolutely terrible.
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       | interestica 5 minutes ago [flagged] [dead] | prev [-]
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       | What a weirdly botched release. 90 min delay with nothing more
       | than a title screen and a terrible repeating music track. (When
       | it was at least an opportunity to display material related to the
       | project for those stopping in due to media coverage). A labyrinth
       | of a website with interlinking and crosslinking throughout. Web
       | links that come up blank. And an unprepared accompanying
       | statement for the image given off the cuff by the director. Weird
       | press conference -- 'who is this for?' All around, just strange
       | and poorly executed from a communications/media standpoint.
       | Completely inexcusable for an organization like this.
        
         | gizajob wrote:
         | Flagging because overly-harsh armchair criticism towards a
         | piece of the world's most advanced precision engineering
         | operating in deep space that isn't really even fully
         | operational yet. President of the world's most powerful country
         | at least coming out to talk about it. Only really one image to
         | release because said device is brand spanking new. What exactly
         | do you want? Kanye West and a load of confetti?
        
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       | cwkoss wrote:
       | Can someone with some astronomy knowledge explain why the center
       | of the images has a bunch of concentric-ish smudges? What does it
       | mean?
        
         | atulvi wrote:
         | Gravitational lensing
        
           | cwkoss wrote:
           | So, are the smudges' light coming from behind the objects in
           | the center?
        
             | skykooler wrote:
             | Yes, they are being warped and magnified by the central
             | cluster of galaxies.
        
       | ehsankia wrote:
       | Wow, you can really see the gravitational lensing on that one.
       | 
       | I was wondering which of the 5 photos [1] they'd tease today
       | (remaining 4 are coming tomorrow). My guess was also gonna be the
       | deep field one, especially since it maps nicely to the well known
       | Hubble photo. But now it begs the question, how does this one
       | compare to the Hubble one in terms of scale/angle.
       | 
       | [1] https://petapixel.com/2022/07/08/nasa-shares-the-5-cosmic-
       | ta...
        
         | aosaigh wrote:
         | Is the lensing the result of a single large galaxy in the
         | middle that is "closer" or many galaxies?
        
           | rbanffy wrote:
           | Some of those arcs seem concentric, so I would assume a mass
           | in that direction. More likely there are multiple masses
           | distorting multiple objects into multiple arcs, but I am not
           | an astronomer and my guess is as good as anyone else's (who's
           | not an astronomer)
        
           | dprice1 wrote:
           | According to
           | https://www.newscientist.com/article/2328132-james-webb-
           | spac..., "This first image is a region of space called SMACS
           | 0723, which contains what astronomers call a gravitational
           | lens. In areas like this, a massive object relatively close
           | to Earth behaves like a magnifying glass, distorting space
           | and stretching the light of anything behind it." and "The
           | gravitational lens in SMACS 0723 is particularly strong
           | because the nearby object distorting space-time is not one
           | galaxy, but a large cluster of galaxies."
        
           | yrgulation wrote:
           | From the link in ops post:
           | 
           | "The combined mass of this galaxy cluster acts as a
           | gravitational lens, magnifying much more distant galaxies
           | behind it."
        
       | Temporal_Trout wrote:
       | Higher Resolution Images available here:
       | https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/038/01G...
       | 
       | Full-Res 4537x4630 PNG (28.51 MB): https://stsci-
       | opo.org/STScI-01G7JJADTH90FR98AKKJFKSS0B.png
        
       | nabla9 wrote:
       | It would be nice to see comparison to the Herschel space
       | observatory images from the same location.
       | 
       | https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Hersch...
        
         | ceejayoz wrote:
         | Here's a Hubble comparison:
         | https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1546624746598563840
        
       | dredmorbius wrote:
       | I'm impressed that one of the first Webb images was a deep-field
       | view.
       | 
       | Hubble's own Deep Field image required about 140 hours of imaging
       | (divided amongst 4 bandwidths and ~150 separate imaging events).
       | Webb's own view took a little over 12 hours. I was expecting
       | nearer and brighter objects to be first targets. Impressive as
       | heck.
       | 
       | Though of course, Hubble paved the way and showed that deep-field
       | imaging is useful and provides insights.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Deep_Field
       | 
       | For comparison the SMACS 0723 image used for reference in the
       | JWST image target selection nnouncement recently:
       | 
       | https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2022/07/hlsp_relics_hst...
        
       | b0sk wrote:
       | Something to drive home how impressive this is - "If you held a
       | grain of sand up to the sky at arm's length, that tiny speck is
       | the size of Webb's view in this image."
        
         | seedees wrote:
         | Webb's view of the universe? And how do we know :-/
        
         | yrgulation wrote:
         | And in that view there are thousands of galaxyes each with
         | billions of stars orbiting around. I so badly wish i had the
         | money and time to spend it all on exploring the universe.
        
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