[HN Gopher] State of the SqueakPhone
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       State of the SqueakPhone
        
       Author : tonyg
       Score  : 49 points
       Date   : 2022-07-15 19:53 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | travisgriggs wrote:
       | Red, yellow, blue buttons.
       | 
       | I worked with VisualWorks (nee Objectworks) for many years, and
       | red/yellow/blue button events were still in the low level user
       | input processing of code. They predated the semi-standardization
       | of mouse buttons. I still have a strong synaptic response for
       | them. My brain just automatically knows what kind of operations
       | it will find for each of those colors.
        
       | projektfu wrote:
       | OMG I was just thinking about this idea. I'll have to check it
       | out.
        
       | zdryasenry wrote:
       | You might throw in a few more comments about how synit is a
       | replacement for systemd and d-bus.
       | 
       | Seriously though, is "not being systemd" such a strong part of
       | the project's identity that it bears being repeated so much?
        
       | transfire wrote:
       | Fascinating.
       | 
       | Smalltalk projects like this (and Pharo) are the only things
       | keeping me interested in OOP and hesitating to go all in on FP.
        
       | ryukafalz wrote:
       | I've been watching this project with much interest, though I
       | haven't yet had the time to play around with it myself. A
       | capability-style system layer for Linux is very exciting!
       | 
       | (The phone side of things is exciting too, though as much as I
       | like Smalltalk I wonder if Squeak is entirely up to the task of
       | hosting a phone UI.)
       | 
       | Still need to dive further into the syndicated actor model side
       | of things though; I think I have use cases for it but don't
       | entirely grok it yet.
        
         | tonyg wrote:
         | As part of working on synit, I've managed to write up some of
         | the core Syndicated ideas a bit better:
         | 
         | - An essay on what the Syndicated Actor Model is:
         | https://synit.org/book/syndicated-actor-model.html
         | 
         | - A big ol' glossary of relevant concepts:
         | https://synit.org/book/glossary.html
         | 
         | - A protocol spec for interoperation among Syndicated programs:
         | https://synit.org/book/protocol.html
         | 
         | Maybe some of these will be of use to you. I'm also happy to
         | answer questions if you have any!
        
         | tonyg wrote:
         | Incidentally, I'm not sure about Squeak as the main user-facing
         | bit, either. I love the idea of having a handheld, battery-
         | powered, internet connected Smalltalk machine; but Squeak's UI
         | is currently very desktop-focussed, and single-host-window-
         | focussed, at that. (I'm working on that latter elsewhere [1].)
         | Squeak's flexibility means it doesn't have to stay that way,
         | and experimenting with alternatives is easy, making it maybe a
         | good environment to prototype alternative phone UIs. Whichever
         | way you slice it, it's a lot of work, of course.
         | 
         | [1] https://squeaksource.com/X11.html
        
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