[HN Gopher] Spf13 is leaving Google
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Spf13 is leaving Google
Author : ArmandGrillet
Score : 79 points
Date : 2022-07-18 18:16 UTC (4 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (spf13.com)
| juliand wrote:
| Thank you for your work on all those different technologies that
| have made our life easier! Feel proud of all of it!
| sigzero wrote:
| Good luck and thanks for all your work on Go!
| spf13 wrote:
| Thank you!
| frob wrote:
| About 10 years ago, spf13-vim showed me what vim could be and
| changed my coding life forever. I finally ejected it and spun my
| own .vimrc a few years ago, but I wouldn't be where I am today
| without it.
|
| Thanks a bunch!
| bleuarff wrote:
| I started learning Go maybe 2 months ago, and we're now using it
| at work in production for small-scale projects, with plans to
| make it our default server-side language. The onboarding
| experience has been quite easy and effective I must say.
|
| I have only written javascript for the past ~5 years and while
| I've never gone bored of writing code in a ~15y career, Go has
| brought some pleasant freshness to my work.
|
| All that to say that this guy and the whole Go team have done
| some good work.
| ramoz wrote:
| JS was an awesome refresher, especially as React came about and
| front-end dev became fun with any challenge; while backend
| seemed mostly mundane crud. Go re-ignited my passion as an
| engineer, and has been such an awesome tool in the age of
| microservices and performant distributed architectures. We're
| running large ML model architectures at scale with Go now.
| Karupan wrote:
| > I led the team that designed MongoDB's pioneering user
| experience
|
| As someone who has used mongo, genuinely curious about which part
| of the user experience is being highlighted here.
|
| Thanks for all your work with the Go community and good luck with
| the new team!
| spf13 wrote:
| I built and led the team that was responsible for the MongoDB
| user experience. We designed and built MongoDB's integrations
| with programming languages & third party systems (Drupal,
| Hadoop, Storm, Spark, etc). Our team wrote the MongoDB user
| manual too and we were responsible for the websites.
|
| My blog has a lot of talks / posts about the work our team did
| if you want to read up more about it.
| Karupan wrote:
| Thanks, appreciate your response! Didn't occur to me that you
| were talking about the UX for the entire ecosystem. Will read
| your blog for more details.
| Redsquare wrote:
| Perhaps Mongo Atlas?
| threatofrain wrote:
| > Over the past 6 years Go's user base has grown ~10x and Go
| users have increased their frequency from occasional to daily
| usage.
|
| Impressive. How accurate is this?
| spf13 wrote:
| I can confirm it's quite accurate. I've been the person
| responsible for these metrics the entire time cited.
| vanderZwan wrote:
| Technically I don't think _" author of article says they can
| confirm that numbers they used in their article are
| accurate"_ really holds up as a valid argument ;).
|
| Tongue-in-cheek feedback aside, congrats on all your
| achievements and good luck on your future projects!
| n3tfox wrote:
| TwoSigma are lucky to have you spf13, thank you for everything
| you've given Go and the community.
| brycewray wrote:
| spf13, congratulations on your move and thank you for what you've
| already done. Was a really cool experience watching your live
| interview during the recent HugoConf 2022 event.
| nojito wrote:
| Two Sigma (and others) have been poaching senior level google
| talent at a quicker and quicker clip.
|
| Very exciting to watch the exodus happen!
| samfisher83 wrote:
| Hedge funds/hf trading companies can't compete with monopolies
| in printing money. I wonder how they are getting all these
| people.
| fieu wrote:
| Thank you for everything you've done spf13. I wish you the best
| of luck on your next venture!
| [deleted]
| mountainriver wrote:
| Such a great collection of projects, he in a lot of ways reshaped
| basic software tooling. Also met him at gophercon one year and he
| was a cool guy
| DrinkWater wrote:
| > You may know me from building the Go Language, Docker, MongoDB,
| Hugo, Cobra, Drupal and spf13-vim
|
| Actually this is the first time i heard from this guy, but this
| is an impressive list of projects to be involved in, wow!
| mupuff1234 wrote:
| Am I the only one who finds that type of phrasing distasteful?
|
| I'm sure he didn't build any of those alone, and as a "leader"
| and a product person he probably didn't do much of the
| "building".
|
| Seems like he was mostly in an advisory role for Drupal, Docker
| and MongoDB, he didn't exactly build them.
| seneca wrote:
| > Am I the only one who finds that type of phrasing
| distasteful?
|
| Generally, I'm with you. In this case, I'm only half with you
| (the phrasing around Go and Docker could use some humility),
| but he really did build Hugo and Cobra. He contributed quite
| a bit to the Go ecosystem, he's not just some product person
| taking credit for work other people actually did.
| spf13 wrote:
| I never intended this statement to be taken as if I built
| these alone. Thanks for this candid feedback.
|
| Perhaps a more accurate wording is:
|
| "You may know me from helping to build the Go Language,
| Docker, MongoDB, and Drupal & creating Hugo, Cobra and
| spf13-vim"
| ignoramous wrote:
| Helped building it or actually built it... Impressive just
| the same!
|
| Congratulations on your new role. Two Sigma seems super-
| exciting.
| xcambar wrote:
| This specific, quoted, phrase doesn't bother memuch, but I
| agree that reading the whole article gave me, from top to
| bottom, a sour taste of personal branding and developer
| marketing that really doesn't sell it (to me).
| rubygloomed wrote:
| Creating something is often just a small group, but teams
| build things.
|
| Linus created Linux, but 1000s of people built it.
|
| This guy isn't claiming to have built any of these alone,
| just claiming that these projects are where you'd recognize
| him from.
| alecbz wrote:
| Afaik the last 3-4 are actually largely his personal projects
| that he probably built most of himself. But yeah, kinda agree
| for the other ones, the phrasing feels a little self-
| aggrandizing to my ear. Not sure how intentional it is
| though, that kind of phrasing I think sort just sneaks into
| the lexicon for some.
| 1-6 wrote:
| So basically a Googler, nonetheless.
| alecbz wrote:
| Have you found Googlers to be self-aggrandizing on
| average? That's not been my experience working there.
| (But might be different for "Googlers who talk a lot/are
| well-known publicly".)
| MonkeyMalarky wrote:
| From the outside peering in, the only Googlers are the
| ones who talk a lot or loudly leverage their ex-googler
| status on other projects.
| fragmede wrote:
| Well but the ones who don't you wouldn't notice, no?
| seneca wrote:
| Heh, as much as I hate painting with that wide of a brush
| it does seem accurate. Something about Google breeds
| hubris and self aggrandizement.
| tony wrote:
| I contribute to open source projects as well - in various
| capacities - and it's fine for a maintainer of a huge project
| to use that wording.
|
| He pushed hugo and viper in 2013-2014:
| https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/commits/v0.7, viper:
| https://github.com/spf13/viper/commit/98be071
|
| Steve is a very accomplished programmer, with what hugo /
| viper became in the go ecosystem by itself. In my view, the
| projects also jumpstarted a lot of new users who were trying
| out golang who weren't sold on it yet. I didn't really notice
| his leadership or advisory roles until now, that's just icing
| on the cake.
|
| Thanks for your contributions, Steve!
|
| Edit: If it's really big ecosystem, _indirect_ contributions
| also matter. e.g. in python, even if you're not writing
| CPython patches or PEPs, community based projects do a lot to
| shape best practices and even bubble up into standard
| library.
| akomtu wrote:
| But is he able to invert a binary tree?
| [deleted]
| mountainriver wrote:
| The most critical of skills to succeed in software
| podiki wrote:
| A bit off topic, but does anyone else find a data/financial
| company name "two sigma" to be...either troubling (how often two
| sigma events happen randomly and their lack of meaning beyond
| random fluctuation), or really on the nose?
| singhrac wrote:
| A few more off-topic thoughts about this comment: (a) Two Sigma
| is an investment firm (a wrapper around a hedge fund), not
| really a financial company, (b) pretty much no one at Two Sigma
| is unaware of how often 2 sigma events happen, so I think
| neither? and (c) two sigma events can totally have meaning
| beyond random chance, in fact they're usually a leading
| indicator that there is some connection beyond luck :).
| jpcapdevila wrote:
| Wow, thanks for all those great contributions.
|
| Looks like you have a good eye for picking good tech & teams to
| join and work with.
|
| Any insights or things you saw in common?
| daviddever23box wrote:
| Thanks, Steve, for all your efforts - Two Sigma will be lucky to
| have you.
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