[HN Gopher] Discworld on Page and Screen, Part 1: Serious Comedy
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       Discworld on Page and Screen, Part 1: Serious Comedy
        
       Author : doppp
       Score  : 120 points
       Date   : 2022-07-22 14:33 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | swayvil wrote:
       | I find Pratchett's incessant moralizing and judging and lame
       | caricatures to be unappealing. And when you remove that meat
       | what's left is an extremely conventional and mediocre skeleton.
       | It's like Stephen King with the horror switched out for glitter.
       | Walmart grade stuff.
       | 
       | And all the old ladies are randy witches who ride Harleys. Ugh.
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | > And all the old ladies are randy witches
         | 
         | No, just the one
        
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         | 0x1062 wrote:
         | read the room buddy
        
       | robocat wrote:
       | Note that Terry Pratchett is referred to as "Sir Pterry" in some
       | circles.
       | 
       | I watched "The Colour of Magic" the other day - unfortunately the
       | book is not well represented by the movie.
        
       | cycomanic wrote:
       | I have not seen anyone mention the long earth series, a
       | collaboration between Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. It is
       | based on a very interesting concept. Very different in its style
       | to the discworld books, but shows off how good a writer Pratchett
       | was even when straying from his usual fare.
        
         | armenarmen wrote:
         | Long Earth was a great series with the fun premise of "how's
         | the world going to work in super abundance backed by a potato
         | ina box"
        
         | ben_w wrote:
         | To me, Lobsang and Sister Agnes (even as they appeared in _The
         | Long Cosmos_ ) felt much more _Discworld_ -y than did almost
         | any part of _Raising Steam_.
         | 
         | I have fond memories of the ascendant of the _Discworld_
         | series, _Strata_ , which is IMO better than the book it's
         | riffing on ( _Ringworld_ ). Likewise I enjoyed _The Dark Side
         | of the Sun_ , which riffs off a different theme from _Known
         | Space_ (though I don't recall any of that theme ending as a
         | theme in _Discworld_ ).
         | 
         |  _Good Omens_ was also another fantastic collaboration, between
         | Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman.
        
       | simonw wrote:
       | If you haven't read a Discworld book I'm going to throw my vote
       | behind Guards! Guards! as a great starting point.
       | 
       | I re-read it recently and it was even better than I remember it
       | being when I first read it as a teenager - I think because my
       | extra life experience meant that I understood the themes of the
       | novel more. Incredibly insightful social commentary.
        
         | munk-a wrote:
         | I will seconds Guards! Guards! it's what I always suggest to
         | friends as a starting point and it leads more naturally into a
         | coherent series as you follow Vimes and the city watch - as an
         | alternative the witches are quite hilarious especially if
         | you're familiar with Shakespeare (a particularly good one here
         | might be Lords and Ladies). The Lipwig books are also quite
         | excellent featuring a lot of most folks favorite characters but
         | I think they work better if you're familiar with the setting.
         | 
         | Lastly, I think a really good shout out is Monstrous Regiment
         | which is absolutely hilarious, especially if you _don 't_ know
         | the characters and just incredibly wholesome.
        
           | its_bbq wrote:
           | Monstrous Regiment was my first one! It's nice as a
           | standalone book and I think really shows off the
           | compassionate satire that the essay is talking about
        
           | ErrantX wrote:
           | Vimes is my favourite character arc; I don't always rate
           | Guards Guards but it is essential entry to Night Watch (IMO
           | one of the best books).
           | 
           | Also a shout out for underrated options; Soul Music (great
           | tag line, lovely observational comedy) and Carpe Jugulum
           | (some fan favourite characters, but also one of my fav bit-
           | part characters - Lacrimosa)
        
             | simonw wrote:
             | In terms of underrated options: I have a very strong
             | affection for Pyramids. It's almost completely unconnected
             | from the other books - it starts in Ankh Morpork but
             | quickly heads out to Djelibeybi (Child of the Djel) - the
             | Discworld's ancient Egypt. And it's loosely about quantum
             | physics.
        
               | nop_slide wrote:
               | Pyramids is also my favorite (so far, still working
               | through the series chronologically)!
               | 
               | Without too much of a spoiler, but at the point whenever,
               | uh, the physics and time gets weird, I was dying laughing
               | about the interactions between the pyramid building
               | brothers.
               | 
               | I also read it during the week my son was born this year
               | and generally have some really positive associations with
               | it :)
        
               | munk-a wrote:
               | Another sort of weird one is Small Gods which is
               | _intensely good_ and definitely very message driven.
               | Small Gods, Pyramids, Soul Music and Night Watch are
               | probably peak pratchett when it comes to actually being
               | fantastical - a lot of his writing is very grounded but
               | in those books he really leaves the beaten path to
               | explore something very... odd.
        
         | gmadsen wrote:
         | good choice. My first was going postal, and is a great self
         | contained book
        
           | aspaviento wrote:
           | And a great movie too. The actor who plays the role of Moist
           | does a great job.
        
         | schoenobates wrote:
         | I love Guards but would also throw in Thief of Time which is a
         | fabulous read
        
         | dejv wrote:
         | Guards! Guards! is great. I would also add Interesting times
         | for more prototypical Discworld and also Truth is pure gold.
        
         | KerrAvon wrote:
         | Guards! Guards! is great, but the thing about Pratchett is that
         | his writing got significantly better every few books until the
         | very end of his life. Later entries in the series -- Night
         | Watch and Thud! -- are much better.
         | 
         | As such, I'd recommend Going Postal as the entry point for the
         | uninitiated.
        
           | contravariant wrote:
           | I kind of feel that you need to read the Colour of Magic to
           | get a proper introduction to the Discworld itself though
           | (just ignore the story though, it's rather flimsy), but it
           | might not be necessary to read it first.
        
             | Ntrails wrote:
             | I remember colour of magic being pretty hard work and not
             | super fun. I was glad I made it to the later stuff that was
             | far better crafted
        
         | swyx wrote:
         | i knew you had good taste :)
         | 
         | i love Small Gods as a starter novel because it is pretty self
         | contained.
        
           | mrwh wrote:
           | Small Gods is the one I managed to get signed. A bookshop in
           | Dorchester, and Pratchett gave an excellent talk before. I
           | say "managed to get signed", though the joke at one point was
           | Pratchett signed so many books, unsigned copies were the rare
           | ones.
        
         | dspillett wrote:
         | My first was Reaper Man, which isn't a bad place to start.
         | Better from a context point of view to start with Mort perhaps,
         | but not necessary.
         | 
         | His take on Death often fills the role of the outsider, trying
         | to understand us and by doing so exposing our oddities, much
         | like Data in Trek and other such characters. Possibly that is
         | why the books that feature him heavily are some of my
         | favourites.
        
         | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
         | Just _DO NOT WATCH THE WATCH!_!
         | 
         | It will leave scars...
        
           | munk-a wrote:
           | As a long time Pratchett enjoyer I thought it was pretty well
           | done, it certainly wasn't a screen version of Guards! Guards!
           | but it was pretty clearly inspired by it and, honestly, it
           | managed to bring humor of its own right to the party.
           | 
           | I certainly wouldn't recommend it as an introduction to
           | Pratchett but it is quite Pratchett adjacent.
        
             | aspaviento wrote:
             | No, thanks. There was a reason why Pratchett described his
             | characters the way he did and this show didn't respect that
             | at all. This show didn't get inspired by Discworld, it just
             | used some character names to get some track that it
             | wouldn't get otherwise.
        
             | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
             | Fair 'nuff.
             | 
             |  _Good Omens_ was awesome, though. I was spoiled by that.
             | True labor of love.
        
               | munk-a wrote:
               | If you give it another try sometime please push Jeremy
               | Irons out of your head as Vetinari - Anna Chancellor is
               | an absolutely amazing casting.
        
               | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
               | Yeah. That was ... _awkward_. I liked Charles Dance, and
               | I love Anna Chancellor.
               | 
               | I probably will give it another go, sometime. I like most
               | of the cast.
        
               | KerrAvon wrote:
               | It's too bad Neil can't be persuaded to showrun a
               | Discworld anthology series or something. The only video
               | to really nail Discworld was Hogfather. (Going Postal had
               | excellent casting but the script diverged way too far
               | from the book.)
        
               | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
               | Yeah. I have heard that there will be a "Season Two" of
               | _Good Omens_. Apparently, Gaiman and Pratchett were
               | working on a sequel, when PTerry goot too sick to
               | complete it.
        
               | anotherman554 wrote:
               | That's not what happened. Gaiman and Pratchett outlined a
               | sequel to the _Good Omens_ novel when they were at a
               | comic book convention together in 1989, were sharing a
               | room, and couldn 't sleep. Aside from that outline they
               | were never working on it together as they were busy with
               | their own projects. Gaiman dug up this outline and is
               | turning it into a second season of the show.
        
               | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
               | Ah...that makes sense (and me, a bit sad, as I don't know
               | if Gaiman will be able to do as good a job).
        
         | mrwh wrote:
         | Guards! Guards! is excellent. I'd vote for Wyrd Sisters too.
         | 
         | Incidentally, I think the Wyrd Sisters cartoon is the most
         | successful Discworld adaptation
         | (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd_Sisters_(TV_series)). I
         | must admit, I've not tried the recent series based (very
         | loosely it seems) on Guards! Guards! I don't what to be That
         | Fan who says they got everything wrong but...
        
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           | npsomaratna wrote:
           | Tried watching the recent series ("The watch"). Not
           | Pratchett.
           | 
           | I hesitate to use the word "unwatchable", but this series
           | comes close. It is both an awful adaptation of the Discworld
           | universe--and awful even otherwise.
        
         | memling wrote:
         | > [M]y vote behind Guards! Guards! as a great starting point.
         | 
         | That was my introduction, when it came out, but I recommend
         | _Hogfather_ to most as it captures the wide breadth of his
         | writing. There 's a lot of great comedy in it, but also some
         | serious and scary moments.
        
         | SamBam wrote:
         | If you have young daughters, though, the Tiffany Aching books
         | are a great place to start.
        
           | bgribble wrote:
           | I've read the Tiffany Aching books aloud to both my daughter
           | and my son and they both loved them.
           | 
           | Partly (mostly?) for the spectacle of me trying to read a Nac
           | Mac Feegle accent :)
           | 
           | FWIW I only recently learned that "crivens" is maybe a real
           | expression, a much-shortened form of "Christ defend us". In
           | the same way as "God blind me" reduces to "blimey"...
        
             | SamBam wrote:
             | The kids similarly love my Nac Mac Feegle accent. They can
             | blame me for their terrible imitation of a Scottish accent
             | when they're adults.
        
         | Avicebron wrote:
         | I would recommend any Discworld book wholeheartedly, anything
         | with Rincewind is hilarious (The last continent is a favorite
         | of mine), also I think Moving Pictures is pretty interesting
         | commentary on modern entertainment. I read them all over a
         | decade ago and some of the lines I remember still make me
         | chuckle. EDIT: Also the movie(s) Going Postal are great..."The
         | Smoking Gnu" :)
        
           | NineStarPoint wrote:
           | The main problem with Rincewind is that the entry point for
           | his story is The Color of Magic+The Light Fantastic, which as
           | the first two Discworld novels are much weaker than later
           | books in the series. Guards Guards is just a much better
           | first book to read, that or Equal Rites is more
           | representative of the quality Discworld would come to have.
           | 
           | Then again my first Discworld novel was Making Money and I
           | loved it even without context (and the "Industrial
           | Revolution" sub-series starting with moving pictures remains
           | my favorite to this day), so you could probably just start at
           | Sourcery and go from there anyway.
        
             | giobox wrote:
             | Completely agree on this point. The first two Discworld
             | novels, while still hilarious, take being a high fantasy
             | story much more seriously than the later stories do. I'd go
             | as far as to argue Pratchett still hadn't found the
             | "discworld voice" in those first two books.
        
           | rjbwork wrote:
           | Moving Pictures is probably my favorite Discworld novel. Even
           | without considering any of the subtext and commentary it's
           | just so funny.
        
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       | jerrysievert wrote:
       | before his untimely death, he collaborated with Stephen Baxter
       | for an amazing series of 5 books exploring parallel earths.
       | definitely worth a read if you want something just a little bit
       | different from an amazing writer.
        
         | schoenobates wrote:
         | The Long Earth series is fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of
         | Baxter's work but these books are among my fave scifi reads.
        
           | travisgriggs wrote:
           | Interesting. I did not care for the Long Earth series. But...
           | I could always tell when Pratchett took over the dialog, and
           | loved those points.
        
       | h2odragon wrote:
       | A friend loaned me their complete set of Discworld books at about
       | the time "Mort" came out; they didn't re-print the USA Roc
       | editions of the earlier titles until "Guards, Guards" got popular
       | and there was a while there where they were quite valuable and
       | hard to find.
       | 
       | Pterry's Usenet presence was a large factor in the popularity
       | explosion; I recall returning the favor of loaned book with
       | printouts of the alt.fan.pratchett FAQ.
        
       | ErrantX wrote:
       | If you are a discworld fan it's worth reading Strata, one of his
       | earliest works.
       | 
       | This is set in a disc shaped world as well and you can see the
       | early shape of the discworld concept (the world but also the
       | style of the books). It's like seeing him work out his voice.
       | 
       | I love discworld a lot. But Good Omens is, for me, the essence of
       | the craft of dark humourist fantasy. So many observations on
       | humanity.
        
         | v-erne wrote:
         | Strata was first Sir Terry book for me - I read it when I was
         | teenager and was reading science fiction only. Imagine my
         | suprise reading Colour of magic next, having strata in back of
         | my head, waiting for the damn space ships to appear.
         | 
         | And they never did, not in a single discworld book I have read
         | later in my life (dark side of moon aside coz its not part of
         | the series).
         | 
         | Anyways ... I also recommend strata - the ideas on this book
         | are so vivid and clever that they stay with You for the rest of
         | your life (mechanical deamon with small wings using super fast
         | teleportation as a way to implement flight always comes to my
         | mind whenever I hack a solution with unexpected tools)
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | It is hilarious how much Strata owes to Niven's "Ringworld", if
         | you have read that as well. It goes to its own places in the
         | end but it sure does spend a lot of time as a direct parody of
         | that book.
        
           | ErrantX wrote:
           | Absolutely; Pratchett always described it as a direct
           | "pisstake" of Ringworld (and Niven was a fan)
        
       | shaftoe444 wrote:
       | I was lucky enough to visit a Pratchett exhibition at the
       | Salisbury museum, near where he lived for most of his adult life.
       | It had a bunch of his books, papers, things from his life, even
       | his desk with six monitor set-up, one of which was playing Doom
       | on loop!
       | 
       | His deep love of the people of the landscape and people of
       | Wiltshire and the surroundings, most obvious in the later Tiffany
       | Aching books, was huge for me as a teenager growing up in this
       | area. Articulated how I feel about my home better than I ever
       | could.
       | 
       | edit: This was the exhibition
       | https://salisburymuseum.org.uk/whats-on/exhibitions/terry-pr...
        
       | totalperspectiv wrote:
       | Does anyone know where to find the 1978 column Pratchett wrote
       | about Star Wars? It's referenced in the article but I don't see a
       | source and would love to read it.
        
         | probably_wrong wrote:
         | The only other information I found was that it was published in
         | the Bath Chronicle.
         | 
         | If you have access to their archive, that will narrow it down
         | to "only" 365 issues.
        
           | pmyteh wrote:
           | I've had a look to see what's in the Bodleian and the British
           | Library from there, but it doesn't look like 1978 is online.
           | Post-1998 is on LexisNexis, and the BL's (paid) online
           | service has up to 1950, but there's a gap in the middle. You
           | could almost certainly go and read it in the BL reading room
           | in London, though: their print/microfilm coverage of British
           | newspapers is very good.
        
         | weeblewobble wrote:
         | I found a little more info about it but unfortunately no copy:
         | 
         | "'SO, BANG GOES THE PERSONAL TOUCH', Bath & West Evening
         | Chronicle, 22 April 1978, p. 10. This is TP's 'Star Wars' piece
         | that he tended to mention when talking of his years at the
         | Chronicle, but I could not track it down when I searched the
         | issues in the British Newspaper Library in Colindale, North
         | London (now closed and moved to the town of Boston Spa).
         | Perhaps it was in an issue missing from their collection, or I
         | was looking in the wrong issues. Star Wars was released in
         | London in December 1977, but only reached Bath the following
         | April. Discovered by David Moger, to whom my thanks. CS"
        
       | chrisma0 wrote:
       | > "At least you can say that in Pratchett's books, the bloody
       | elves never sang!"
       | 
       | Terry Pratchett I think is one of my favourite writers to read.
       | The absurdity of his fantasy settings is just the right level of
       | entertaining for me. Everything flows so smoothly that I
       | sometimes get the subtle jokes only on my second read-through.
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | There are many _many_ jokes that are so obscure as to be almost
         | impossible for non-British readers to discover. A trip through
         | the l-space wiki will point out many (and there's some I've
         | noticed that aren't listed there).
         | 
         | Anytime something is named, it's probably a joke or reference
         | of some sort.
         | 
         | It's also quite fun how many of the "inpossible" setups or
         | situations are just literally copies of real-life stories.
        
           | Swizec wrote:
           | For a modern and non-British take on this genre I would
           | strongly recommend The Tales of Pell by Kevin Hearne and
           | Delilah S. Dawson, if anyone's looking. It's got that same
           | vibe of absurdist humor with real life references in a
           | fantasy setting. The politics are less about class and more
           | about identity.
        
             | chrisma0 wrote:
             | Hey, thanks for the recommendations! These sound great.
        
       | dstick wrote:
       | Ok let me geek out a little. Terry Pratchett was a god among man.
       | A truly special human being whose works are on par with the likes
       | of Shakespeare and Wagner in describing and exploring human
       | nature.
       | 
       | He's well known for his fantasy novels, but he was also a
       | humanist and an advocate for the right to die. Here's a great
       | documentary by him, on that subject:
       | 
       | https://vimeo.com/229120539
       | 
       | GNU Terry!
       | 
       | On a more Hackernews note, there's a special HTTP response header
       | that is secretly used worldwide to honor Terry. X-Clacks-
       | Overhead. A reference to the books in which it is said that a
       | person never dies as long as his name is sent over Clacks (the
       | Discworld internet / telegram).
       | 
       | There are lots of big sites doing it, because some developer
       | snuck it in: https://webtechsurvey.com/response-header/x-clacks-
       | overhead
       | 
       | Mozilla, Debian, XML, Python, VLC - it's heartwarming.
        
         | hyperman1 wrote:
         | It's the first time I see other names than Terry's in that
         | header. But it makes sense, of course.
        
         | travisgriggs wrote:
         | Thank you for sharing this. Going Postal was my first Pratchett
         | book. I did not know about this X-Clacks-Overhead. This has
         | made my day, and nearly brought tears to my eyes.
        
       | AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
       | If you've never read any Pratchett and want to try it out, rather
       | than read one of the many Discworld novels, or any of his sci-fi,
       | or the Bromeliad or Johnny Maxwell trilogies, I'd instead
       | recommend the stand-alone novel Nation. It is my opinion that it
       | is the most concise demonstration of everything great about
       | Pratchett's writing.
        
         | cycomanic wrote:
         | While I really liked Nation, I don't think it represents the
         | random laugh/giggle on the train type humour that is so common
         | in the discworld novels. For me the humour is a bit more subtle
         | in Nation.
        
         | bityard wrote:
         | I'm about a little more than halfway through it right now and
         | already it's one of the most beautiful works I've ever read.
        
       | escapologybb wrote:
       | I absolutely loved Terry Pratchett Discworld, make me laugh at
       | some real bad times in my life.
       | 
       | I'm currently listening to thief of time which is weirdly good,
       | didn't like it at first but it really is good. That and the last
       | continent.
       | 
       | Obviously this is all secondary to the Night Watch, Sam Vimes is
       | definitely on Hacker News somewhere, right? :-)
        
       | ryandvm wrote:
       | One thing that surprises me whenever Discworld comes up is that
       | nobody ever mentions Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents. I
       | get that it doesn't really tie into any of the other story arcs,
       | but it is indeed a Discworld book (the 28th). It's also one of
       | the few that was intentionally written for children.
       | 
       | I read it with my 11 year old daughter and was expecting it to be
       | fairly ho hum, but was absolutely blown away by the story and the
       | satire.
       | 
       | Not only do I highly, highly recommend it for reading with
       | children, it's absolutely a great read for adults.
        
         | thallian wrote:
         | I quite love that story and at least my age says I am an adult.
         | Very recently I wrote a short (~320 words) review of it in
         | preparation for my English C2 exam and it even was fun to write
         | about it :)
        
         | dpeck wrote:
         | I agree. I'm a big fan of the DEATH story arc, but outside of
         | Mort and Reaper Man, Amazing Maurice might be my favorite book
         | in the series. So very well written and felt like Pratchett was
         | at his best.
        
       | gonesilent wrote:
       | good bbc show with Terry Pratchett on the right to pick when to
       | exit this world.
        
       | Decabytes wrote:
       | Equal Rites was my first Terry Pratchett book after not reading
       | any since middle school. It was great and I laughed a lot while
       | reading it
        
       | owlninja wrote:
       | As a kid I somehow stumbled into Discworld first by playing the
       | point-and-click PC game where Rincewind was voiced by Eric Idle
       | (probably after much fumbling through soundcards settings). This
       | is how I discovered the book series and have been a fan ever
       | since. Such amazing books on so many levels!
        
         | chamakits wrote:
         | "Did anyone get the number of that donkey cart?"
         | 
         | Same for me! Except I played it on PS1. I didn't find out about
         | the book series until like 10 years after. For better or for
         | worse I now have a picture in my brain for Rincewind,
         | Twoflower, and The Luggage purely based on the game. But still
         | love it.
        
           | owlninja wrote:
           | Same! For better or worse the image of the characters from
           | those games are etched in my mind when reading through the
           | relevant books.
        
       | robswc wrote:
       | I usually don't read a lot of fiction but absolutely make the
       | exception for Terry Pratchett!
        
         | bombcar wrote:
         | In a way he's like Weird Al - technically Al is a parody artist
         | but he had an excellent mastery of many, many styles of music.
         | 
         | Similarly Pratchett is technically a fantasy author but some of
         | his books are actually crime/detective novels, sci-fi, even
         | romance.
         | 
         | Many people who say "I only read fantasy" are quite surprised
         | when you point out many of the Guard books are just straight
         | detective stories; similar to how many people are shocked to
         | realize that Blues Brothers, is at heart, a musical.
        
           | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
           | I recommend his _The Bromeliad Trilogy_.
           | 
           | https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/books/the-bromeliad/
           | 
           | Cool alternate way of looking at the world.
        
           | robswc wrote:
           | Great point!
           | 
           | That's exactly one of the reasons I love the books. They seem
           | to be able to wrap up a ton of concepts/stories I like in a
           | way that preserves the quality and to top it off, incredibly
           | fun to read.
        
           | winReInstall wrote:
           | Some of the books also ventured pretty close to darkness,
           | Night Watch had humorist tracesd, but mostly it was a
           | timejump back into a bleak, darker past.
        
       | aspaviento wrote:
       | One thing I love about Discworld is how it evolved between
       | novels. Each of them added a piece to its history and you could
       | see how the events of one book affected the lifestyle of the
       | citizens of Ank-Morpork in others.
        
       | travisgriggs wrote:
       | I love Terry Pratchett. I have read (and reread and reread)
       | nearly everything he has written. His early works were more
       | monty-pythonesque than his later ones (less plot, more random
       | hillarity). I advise against a "let's start from the beginning
       | and read to the end" strategy where Color of Magic or the Light
       | Fantistic were your starters.
       | 
       | Pratchett is a superb satirist (Vonnegut is the only equal I have
       | discovered). His dialog is great. There are so many chuckle
       | worthy moments. And then there are just really deep profound
       | moments as well. You can read them in any order. There are
       | reappearing characters, but each book stands on its own. They
       | focus more on immediate content than overall plot arcs. The more
       | you soak yourself in discworld in general, in any order, the
       | funnier and more rewarding it all gets.
       | 
       | The book that has the most cross over with the reasons we all
       | post to HN is probably Going Postal, because it satirizes the
       | world of information dispersal. Who owns the content? Who gets to
       | be the gatekeepers, etc.
       | 
       | If you like Monty Python style humor, you'll probably enjoy those
       | that have Rincewind and/or the Unseen University the most.
       | 
       | I love any of the books with Death in it (Hogfather, Reaper Man,
       | Mort, Soul Music, Thief of Time).
       | 
       | My son loved all of the Sam Vimes books. If you love
       | police/detective stuff, this is for you.
       | 
       | If you want a little more plot, the Tiffany Aching series has
       | that. Read all of these aloud (multiple times) to all of 3 of my
       | girls.
       | 
       | I don't even know how best to introduce/characterize/promote The
       | Witches (Weatherwax, Ogg, et al). If you value common sense and
       | wish there were more of it in the world?
       | 
       | If you couldn't be bothered to read, then watch the BBC mini
       | series "Good Omens", it's on Prime. It's derived from a book of
       | the same name written by Pratchett and Gaiman (though I think
       | Terry did most of it, since it feels much more Pratchett than
       | Gaiman to me). And they did a superb job of adapting and staying
       | true to the book.
        
         | cycomanic wrote:
         | > If you couldn't be bothered to read, then watch the BBC mini
         | series "Good Omens", it's on Prime. It's derived from a book of
         | the same name written by Pratchett and Gaiman (though I think
         | Terry did most of it, since it feels much more Pratchett than
         | Gaiman to me). And they did a superb job of adapting and
         | staying true to the book.
         | 
         | I'm not sure I agree. I find the book definitely has a clear
         | signature of both authors, which makes it so great. I love
         | Pratchett and some of Gaiman works are absolutely genius
         | (although I find that unlike Pratchett reading a book from him
         | is not guaranteed to appeal to me, even for his popular books),
         | so this combination is just a dream team, the only way it could
         | be topped is if their story was published in an anthology
         | edited by George RR Martin).
        
       | martsa1 wrote:
       | I absolutely adore the discworld books. I've reread many of them
       | several times over the years, they are without doubt a
       | significant contributor to both my world view, and my vocabulary.
       | I can't wait to raise my children with them.
       | 
       | I typically recommend either Small Gods, Wyrd Sisters, Pyramids
       | or Mort as an entry into the discworld. There are so many good
       | start points though.
       | 
       | I can never decide whether to recommend reading a specific
       | character arc, or to read them in publishing or chronological
       | order. I've enjoyed re-reading character arcs a lot though.
        
       | boomboomsubban wrote:
       | > When you combined the sales of all of his novels together, he
       | became simply the most popular single British author of the 1990s
       | 
       | I'm honestly surprised that Pratchett's ~20 novels beat the three
       | Harry Potter books released in the 90's. That may be because I'm
       | an American though, and while I knew one guy that had read some
       | Pratchett in school seemingly everyone had read Harry Potter.
        
         | ErrantX wrote:
         | I mean clearly HP craze has smashed Discworld in the end. But
         | the first three HP books were released in the late 90s, whereas
         | Pratchett wrote 16 novels through the decade (and something
         | like 5-6 in the 80s). So he had volume on his side.
        
           | boomboomsubban wrote:
           | While he did, Harry Potter books are huge. Looking at the
           | best selling books article on Wikipedia, all of the Discworld
           | books sold 90 million total copies, the first Harry Potter
           | sold 120 million. So I'm guessing that claim is only for
           | books sold during the 90's, but Rowling sold far more copies
           | of books published in the 90's
        
             | ErrantX wrote:
             | Yes I agree that is how it is being claimed.
             | 
             | Interestingly; the first HP book was published in 1997 but
             | the print run was only 500. The book wasn't published in
             | the US till late 1998 and by that point hadn't even sold
             | half a million copies.
             | 
             | I believe it kind of blew up in sales through 1999 but the
             | UK -> US lag meant most of the sales were in the 2000s.
        
       | bambataa wrote:
       | Discworld was a real joy of mine in my early teens. I think some
       | of my early computing forays including a Discworld mailing list I
       | found on a webring via Yahoo or somewhere. I had the Discworld
       | official map on my wall and used to love getting the editions
       | printed as tiny hardbacks.
       | 
       | Probably my favourite sub-series was the Witches and Nanny Ogg.
       | As I caught up to the newer books I found myself enjoying them
       | less because it felt like there was more and more philosophising.
       | Probably what happened was that they got a bit more sophisticated
       | and I was too immature to understand many of the themes and
       | allusions.
       | 
       | Time to start working through them all then! I recently reread
       | Colour of Magic and it was enjoyable but also clearly had far too
       | much going on.
       | 
       | Either Pyramids or Moving Pictures was the only one that I really
       | struggled to enjoy for some reason.
        
         | dcminter wrote:
         | > it felt like there was more and more philosophising
         | 
         | If you're referring to the much-later books like Unseen
         | Academicals, then sadly I think Terry's alzheimers affliction
         | was probably to blame. As I understand it he reached a point
         | where he was no longer able to type, but could still dictate.
         | Certainly somewhere in that process they lost the tautness of
         | the earlier works. Something to enjoy still (for me) but not
         | quite the glittering jewels of his intellectual peak.
        
           | bambataa wrote:
           | Yes, from Making Money onwards I think. I haven't actually
           | read the most recent few because of that. It's a shame to
           | hear that but still, what a body of work to leave.
        
       | ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
       | I believe that Sir Terry was probably one of the greatest humans
       | to walk the Earth. Not only was his work wonderful, but he was a
       | really decent chap, as well.
       | 
       | Humble, well-educated, polite, honest, and, from everything I've
       | heard, a joy to work with.
        
         | v-erne wrote:
         | I had been to two book signings of his and had a chanse to
         | listen to him answering q&a session, reading his book and
         | telling some stories (and even talk for a brief moment when my
         | friends from local fun club tried to ask him for interview). I
         | must say that he seemd to be everything You are saying he was
         | and more (the way he declined my friends was so humble and
         | honest that You could feel that he genuinly felt sorry that he
         | did not have more time for them).
         | 
         | I also saw his awesome ring with death on it. Im not much into
         | mens jewelery but this things was honestly amezing (speaking as
         | a discworld fun of course)
        
       | micheljansen wrote:
       | I recently started reading Discworld after many years of thinking
       | I would not like it - I honestly don't know why!
       | 
       | The humour is great and it has way more fun with itself than I
       | expected. If like me you have been putting off after ignoring
       | many recommendations: just give it a try!
        
         | dcminter wrote:
         | As there won't be any more coming (alas! alas!) I rather envy
         | you the prospect of as-yet-unread Pratchett novels to come.
         | Savour them; a first-read is always special. Happily for me
         | they bear much repeated re-reading.
        
           | micheljansen wrote:
           | Thanks! It feels like how I imagine someone just discovering
           | Breaking Bad must feel. It's sad that I never appreciated
           | Terry Pratchett's work during his lifetime. At least we can
           | be thankful he produced a lot of work!
        
       | dstick wrote:
       | Discworld MUD plug
       | 
       | http://discworld.starturtle.net/lpc/
        
         | veddox wrote:
         | Loved playing this for several years, an absolutely mindblowing
         | game with a great (if rather small) community! Eventually had
         | to stop because I just didn't have the time to play regularly
         | anymore, but I still miss this world...
        
         | ycombinete wrote:
         | Man I keep starting that, but get stuck trying to do basic
         | stuff like open a cupboard. Can you suggest a good intro?
        
       | dcminter wrote:
       | If you're not aware of it, the Annotated Pratchett File1 is a joy
       | for the dedicated Pratchett reader. It collates explanations and
       | observations on the many, many well-layered jokes in his works. I
       | read a lot and felt like I was getting some pretty obscure jokes,
       | but the APF opened my eyes to historical and cultural allusions
       | that had whooshed en masse over my head! I'm in awe at Terry's
       | erudition. I wish he was still around writing for us :'(
       | 
       | 1https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/
        
       | rawoke083600 wrote:
       | Man I love Terry Pratchett's books ! It next to Asimov and Conan
       | Doyle are my absolute goto for pure joy in literature.
       | 
       | Also it just hit me ! Captain Vimes and Ronald Swanson (Parks
       | &Rect ) They from the same cloth :)
        
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