[HN Gopher] Standard Ebooks
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       Standard Ebooks
        
       Author : tosh
       Score  : 497 points
       Date   : 2022-07-24 16:59 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (standardebooks.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (standardebooks.org)
        
       | Thrymr wrote:
       | The Kindle FAQ [0] is interesting:
       | 
       | > Why don't you provide mobi files in addition to azw3 files?
       | 
       | > Standard Ebooks is a small, volunteer-led project, and we don't
       | have the time or resources to support a second proprietary file
       | type just because Amazon can't get its act together. We have time
       | for one or the other, and azw3 is the technically superior format
       | that provides the better reading experience.
       | 
       | > Why can't I use "Send to Kindle" to send an azw3 file to my
       | Kindle?
       | 
       | > We don't know! You'd think that Amazon would allow you to send
       | the very file format it invented to its own devices. But Amazon
       | hasn't made it possible to send azw3 files via "Send to Kindle,"
       | even though they surely could. You should complain to Amazon, or
       | vote with your wallet and buy a better ereader.
       | 
       | [0] https://standardebooks.org/help/how-to-use-our-
       | ebooks#kindle...
        
         | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
         | Caliber's maintainer has similarly pithy remarks about Amazon
         | if you ever check the MobileRead forums.
         | 
         | Amazon should officially be supporting EPUB as the send-to-
         | Kindle option now, so that might no longer be necessary. You
         | might still have an issue with missing covers, though.
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | This is technically true, however when you do that they
           | simply convert the epub to mobi on the backend, which is even
           | worse.
        
             | hollandheese wrote:
             | They're converting it to AZW3 actually. Which makes them
             | not allowing AZW3 in Send-to-Kindle even more baffling.
        
             | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
             | I'm suspicious whether they're still using MOBI on the
             | backend, given that they sent me an email about it a few
             | days ago when I tried to share a mobi file to my mother's
             | Kindle. The email is below:
             | 
             | ---
             | 
             | Dear Kindle Customer,
             | 
             | Thank you for using the Send to Kindle service to send
             | personal documents to your Kindle library. We noticed that
             | the following document(s), sent by you at HH:MM AM on Sun,
             | Jul DD, 2022 GMT are in MOBI (.mobi, .azw) formats:
             | <<REDACTED>>
             | 
             | We wanted to let you know that starting August 2022, you'll
             | no longer be able to send MOBI (.mobi, .azw) files to your
             | Kindle library. Any MOBI files already in your library will
             | not be affected by this change. MOBI is an older file
             | format and won't support the newest Kindle features for
             | documents. Any existing MOBI files you want to read with
             | our most up-to-date features for documents will need to be
             | re-sent in a compatible format.
             | 
             | Compatible formats now include EPUB (.epub), which you can
             | send to your library using your Send to Kindle email
             | address. We'll also be adding EPUB support to the free
             | Kindle app for iOS and Android devices and the Send to
             | Kindle desktop app for PC and Mac.
             | 
             | If you have any questions, please visit our help page or
             | contact our Customer Service team.
             | 
             | Regards, Amazon Kindle Support
             | 
             | ---
             | 
             | I would think they might be converting it to some other
             | format? Otherwise, why yank the feature to send direct
             | MOBIs anymore?
        
               | acabal wrote:
               | The technical decisions Kindle makes are shrouded in
               | obscurity, both in logic and in execution...
        
               | NoboruWataya wrote:
               | I have to assume it's at least a precursor to rolling out
               | broader support for EPUB.
               | 
               | Unfortunately, I am using a ~12 year old Kindle which
               | isn't going to be seeing any updates, so discontinuing
               | send-to-Kindle for MOBI will basically just mean I can't
               | use that feature anymore.
        
               | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
               | Any reason why you haven't upgraded? I keep an old Kindle
               | around as well, but just for having a physical Kindle
               | registered to my account so that I can download the books
               | I purchase and remove the DRM. All my actual reading is
               | done on a Kobo.
               | 
               | At some point Amazon sent me an email that my Kindle
               | would soon lost storefront access and offered me some
               | kind of voucher for an upgrade (like 30% off and a $40
               | ebook credit). Surely with all that you could've grabbed
               | a new model during the Prime Day sales for next to
               | nothing?
        
               | jdougan wrote:
               | I can't speak for him, but my old devices are a pair of
               | Kindle DXs. AFAICT there is no real upgrade for those.
        
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         | acabal wrote:
         | As I'm fond of saying, Kindle is an ecosystem invented by
         | people who hate books. It's a pity they're the first thing many
         | people think of when they hear "ebooks."
        
       | aorth wrote:
       | I love this project. Just became a patron. Thanks for all the
       | hard work and commitment over the years.
        
       | virtualritz wrote:
       | This is fantastic!
       | 
       | The flabbergasting quality (or absence thereof) of ebooks I
       | purchase on Amazon is regularly driving me nuts.
       | 
       | Particularly forced justified layout (lacking hypenation, no
       | less) - on a mobile phone. Wtf? Don't get me even started about
       | the 'typography'.
       | 
       | Great to see there are other people who care about these things.
        
       | spansoa wrote:
       | Bookmarked. Another reminder we are drowning in information on
       | the web. There's no excuse for not becoming a better version of
       | yourself due to The Internet. I will certainly read some of the
       | books hosted on this site.
        
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       | radicalriddler wrote:
       | Slightly off topic, but how has Amazon and Kobo picked up the
       | rights for ebooks? Can anyone set up a ebook marketplace? I'm
       | assuming it takes quite a bit of negotiating with publishers and
       | other distributors?
       | 
       | Anyone have any insights into this process?
        
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       | jibbers wrote:
       | I've only read a handful of books from Standard Ebook, but
       | they've all been amazing quality ebooks -- better than some
       | ebooks I've paid for through an Amazon Kindle back in the day.
       | 
       | These folks keep an RSS (love it) with each new book they add to
       | the collection. The hoarder/collector in me likes to have all
       | these perfectly formatted books and thanks to the hardworking
       | people at SE I have, and you can too, some 700 classics for free!
        
         | acabal wrote:
         | Glad to hear you're liking the project! We just added bulk
         | downloads too, for the collector in you:
         | https://standardebooks.org/bulk-downloads
        
       | willhinsa wrote:
       | Completely off topic, but the name "standard" makes me think of a
       | hilarious Bob Mortimer story on "World I Lie To You?" where he
       | accidentally set his house on fire as a child with a box of
       | "Standard Fireworks", which he assumed would be very basic and
       | safe because of the name.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/Rqmd39GdDww
        
         | mdp2021 wrote:
         | Lots of philology this weekend... "Standard" is the symbol you
         | place up high, to "stand hard [firm]", a mark to behold, as if
         | - then - a parameter.
         | 
         | So, 'Standard Ebooks' is read as "model ebooks, exemplary of
         | how they should be made", and the same for the fireworks... In
         | spite of David Mitchell who wanted to joke on "standard" as
         | "common" - which is an overly optimistic deviation, and
         | Mitchell fumbled there, while remaining a good support act for
         | international treasure the Bob Mortimer, the "Standard" (of
         | himself).
        
           | bdefore wrote:
           | But standards can be low or high. Can one firmly stand on
           | unfirm ground?
        
       | akprasad wrote:
       | Wonderful project! I'm working on something similar for a
       | different language.
       | 
       | How closely do you work with Distributed Proofreaders? [1]
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.pgdp.net/c/
        
         | fernly wrote:
         | As a long-time PGDP volunteer and a some-time Standard Ebook
         | one, I would say the connection isn't close. The "distributed
         | proofreaders" at the wonderful PGDP put zillions of hours into
         | cleaning up and formatting books which are then fed to Project
         | Gutenberg for distribution. Standard Ebooks picks up the PG
         | books and re-formats them to their standards.
         | 
         | Back in the day I was the "post-processor" for a number of PGDP
         | books. This meant I received the page scan files which had
         | already been through five (5!) separate passes by volunteer
         | proofers and compiled them into a single etext in (initially)
         | HTML, and later Ebook.
         | 
         | The fact that Standard Ebooks finds typos in PG books (and they
         | do, and kudos to them for their work) simply underscores the
         | huge difficulty of cleaning OCR'd text. In the example on the
         | linked Standard Ebooks front page, the typo of "tne" for "the"
         | is a very typical "scanno" as they are called at PGDP. Both the
         | software and the wetware have overlooked the missing vertical
         | stem of the letter "h".
         | 
         | However, that particular scanno should never have reached
         | distribution at PG, because the last two volunteer passes at
         | PGDP _require_ the volunteer to apply spellcheck before
         | committing a page as complete, plus the post-processor should
         | use spellcheck on the finalized book. That example typo must
         | have come into the PG library at least 20 years ago, or else it
         | didn't come through PGDP.
         | 
         | From experience I can say that as an organization Standard
         | Ebooks are much more tightly managed than most open-source
         | volunteer outfits, and if you can fit into their system, you
         | can put in very satisfying hours building books there. (Despite
         | having formatted some (I thought) handsome works for PGDP, I
         | couldn't meet the standards of Standard Ebooks, or maybe I was
         | burned out, and didn't stay with them.)
        
         | acabal wrote:
         | PGDP is an incredible project. We mostly work on the
         | transcriptions they produce and we specifically avoid creating
         | our own transcriptions, because PGDP already has such a good
         | system in place. When people ask for a new transcription we
         | point them to PGDP instead.
         | 
         | (We have occasionally done our own transcriptions, since in the
         | past few years the US public domain has started expanding
         | again. In these cases we may transcribe a popular book
         | ourselves to have it ready at the start of the public domain
         | year, instead of waiting for PDGP's process.)
        
       | mike_n wrote:
       | Is there a set of standard open-source textbooks for k-12 levels?
       | If not, can we make it happen?
        
         | gnicholas wrote:
         | Yes, CK12. [1] Fun fact: it's run by Neeru Khosla.
         | 
         | 1: https://www.ck12.org/student/
        
       | llaolleh wrote:
       | The ebooks here on this website are great. I've been reading
       | Tolstoy's Confessions from there and it's been a delight.
        
       | alexalx666 wrote:
       | Amazing
        
       | NoboruWataya wrote:
       | Big fan of Standard Ebooks. Another similar project, which I
       | discovered on HN, is Global Grey:
       | https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/index.html
        
         | acabal wrote:
         | They've been around for a while, and now I notice that their
         | cover art format and ebook page layout look vaguely familiar
         | ... :)
        
       | squidbeak wrote:
       | I appreciate this project very much and constantly wish ebook
       | standards at the big commercial publishing houses were even half
       | as good as SE's.
        
       | qqquackk wrote:
       | Can anyone recommend a high quality ebook reader app for Android,
       | that would be compatible with one or more of the formats this
       | site offers?
       | 
       | Also what is this "advanced epub" format they have? I can't see
       | where they describe the actual difference with "compatible epub".
        
         | tharen wrote:
         | > Can anyone recommend a high quality ebook reader app for
         | Android, that would be compatible with one or more of the
         | formats this site offers?
         | 
         | I use [Librera Reader](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foob
         | nix.pro.pdf.reader/] and
         | [Voice](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.ph1b.audiobook/) for
         | audio books.
         | 
         | [KO-Reader](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.koreader.launch
         | er.fdroid...) is also recommended, but the one above I found
         | easier to use, though both seem highly recommended.
         | 
         | I found these Android apps from this [post on r/androidapps](ht
         | tps://old.reddit.com/user/Jackie7610/comments/lr5gag/list_...)
         | 
         | Basically just look for epub, as that is the open standard -
         | though really it doesn't matter if you use
         | [Calibre](https://calibre-ebook.com/) as it can convert between
         | them, but you have to check the types supported yourself...
         | 
         | > Also what is this "advanced epub" format they have? I can't
         | see where they describe the actual difference with "compatible
         | epub".
         | 
         | They have [an explanation
         | here](https://standardebooks.org/help/how-to-use-our-
         | ebooks#which-...), but I would say, when in doubt, just go with
         | the compatible one.
         | 
         |  _Besides, it 's just a book, I doubt anything will explode if
         | you use the wrong the version..._
        
       | acabal wrote:
       | Editor-in-chief here, happy to answer any questions!
        
         | badtension wrote:
         | How do you calculate the reading difficulty?
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | Using the Flesch-Kincaid scale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
           | /Flesch%E2%80%93Kincaid_readabi...
        
             | BossingAround wrote:
             | I wish there was a difficulty for non-native speakers.
             | Flesch-Kincaid score does nothing for the majority of
             | readers if it doesn't distinguish between Night and Day
             | (Woolf) and Shakespeare's Coriolanus. From purely the
             | language's perspectives, non-native speakers will struggle
             | with Coriolanus much more due to outdated language.
             | 
             | Flesch-Kincaid makes little sense to me for books aimed at
             | adults in general.
        
         | lumb63 wrote:
         | Love this project! I've read several books from Project
         | Gutenberg and owe a great deal to the project. I love seeing
         | this extension of it and will be sure to avail myself of it and
         | possibly contribute one day!
         | 
         | Not a question, so much as a suggestion from an interested
         | netizen: it would be great to see changes flowed back up to
         | Gutenberg. I know they have a process for submitting updates -
         | I've made several to The Wealth of Nations myself.
         | 
         | Thanks for sharing the project, and I look forward to my next
         | read!
        
           | robin_reala wrote:
           | It's down to the producer, but 95% of the SE books I produce
           | have changes upstreamed to PG. There's no competition between
           | us: we both serve different niches.
        
         | stevage wrote:
         | How many volunteers do you have? What motivates people to keep
         | working?
        
         | ioblomov wrote:
         | What a great project! Would you have a need for a veteran web
         | dev who also happened to be an English major? Took a look at
         | the volunteer page, but nothing jumped out.
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | Absolutely! Creating epub ebooks is basically creating web
           | pages. Epubs are just zipped up XHTML files, with exactly the
           | same semantic structure and CSS styling you'd find on a well-
           | made web page. That makes web devs with English majors our
           | ideal type of volunteer!
           | 
           | Check out our step by step guide to creating an ebook[1] and
           | then our Wanted Ebook list[2] for some good first-time
           | productions. Then send a note to our mailing list and we'll
           | help you through it.
           | 
           | Creating an ebook is a very satisfying endeavor - I always
           | say it's like building your own lightsaber.
           | 
           | [1] https://standardebooks.org/contribute/producing-an-ebook-
           | ste...
           | 
           | [2] https://standardebooks.org/contribute/wanted-ebooks
        
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         | fimdomeio wrote:
         | Just a note, the line height (leading) when reading a book
         | online seems too small.
        
         | nynx wrote:
         | I'm curious what format the advanced epub is -- epub v3?
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | Yes, the advanced epubs are just the zipped source repo,
           | which is epub 3.2, including any "advanced" CSS selectors and
           | so on. "Advanced" here just means that the epubs are written
           | with a modern web rendering engine in mind, while most
           | ereading platforms in the wild are still at an IE6 level of
           | CSS/HTML rendering support.
           | 
           | The "compatible" epub is the same epub, but with various
           | compatibility enhancements automatically added for different
           | ereading platforms.
           | 
           | Currently only web browsers can render the advanced epubs at
           | 100% fidelity. iBooks might be the only non-browser ereading
           | platform that does a pretty good job with the advanced epubs,
           | as I believe it uses modern Webkit as its renderer. For any
           | other ereader, use the compatible epubs. (Or kepubs for
           | Kobo.)
        
             | BossingAround wrote:
             | Would you have any Android reading app recommendation for
             | advanced epubs? There are android ereaders, those should
             | surely be able to handle any epub given the right app,
             | right?
        
               | acabal wrote:
               | Lithium seems to be fairly good in terms of rendering our
               | advanced epubs, but it's not perfect; note especially
               | that it doesn't invert black-and-white SVGs correctly so
               | unless you set it to a dark page theme, they'll be
               | "invisible". There are also some other rendering quirks
               | for things like very big tables used for play formatting.
               | 
               | Poor renderers are a perennial problem in the epub world
               | and there seems to be little interest in improving the
               | situation. Just use the compatible epubs - for reading
               | purposes they're almost equivalent except in some rare
               | edge cases. Or, you can use our 'read online in browser'
               | option to read ebooks directly in your web browser, which
               | will serve you the source of our advanced epubs. But of
               | course reading in a browser is less than ideal.
        
         | Beldin wrote:
         | just curious, not planning...
         | 
         | Would you accept novel translations of non-English classics?
         | The policy suggests yes, but I imagine such a work would fall
         | under US copyright (which the policy forbids).
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | If by "novel" you mean "modern", then potentially, but they
           | would have to be actually good translations, and released to
           | the public domain via CC0. We only work on public domain
           | books.
        
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         | voxl wrote:
         | Have any of the ebooks included any serious math? I see that
         | MathML is the expectation, but I wonder if the rules around the
         | math aren't just ignored because of the rest of the culture
         | around which books are selected and worked on.
         | 
         | Indeed, in academic writing I never see MathML used in an HMTL
         | setting, it's always MathJax or KaTeX. For your purposes this
         | is probably fine, but imagining if someone wanted to author a
         | high quality math textbook following the same standard I would
         | wager they'd run into a brick wall
        
           | anjbe wrote:
           | It's certainly not "serious math," but I'm rather proud of
           | this revision I made to the MathML used for a throwaway
           | equation in an obscure short story:
           | https://github.com/standardebooks/fritz-leiber_short-
           | fiction...
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | _Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus_ , _Passages from the Life of
           | a Philosopher_ , and _A Tangled Tale_ are probably our most
           | MathML-heavy books.
           | 
           | Books from the PD era are not very likely to feature math
           | serious enough to require MathML. This is probably for the
           | best... MathML support in ereaders is poor, with the
           | exception of iBooks and Kobo. Raw MathML is retained in our
           | "advanced" epubs, but it's converted to PNGs in our
           | "compatible" epubs, for this reason.
           | 
           | https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/ludwig-
           | wittgenstein/tracta...
           | 
           | https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/charles-
           | babbage/passages-f...
           | 
           | https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/lewis-carroll/a-tangled-
           | ta...
        
         | firstbabylonian wrote:
         | Do you have any plans to support (and accept contributions to)
         | non-English books? It'll be amazing to see original Russian
         | classic texts redone with the same level of care.
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | This is a common request and the answer is unfortunately no.
           | Typography varies across languages and we are only experts in
           | English typography. People have tried to start up various SE-
           | like projects for other languages, but as far as I know none
           | have taken off.
        
         | politelemon wrote:
         | Would you consider creating a Goodreads collection/list of all
         | the books in Standard Ebooks? Though I can appreciate if it's
         | too much work to curate or manage.
         | 
         | Edit -- oh, is this the list?
         | https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/140305.Standard_Ebooks
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | We did have one volunteer adding items to Goodreads as we
           | produced them, but the process was manual and very tedious,
           | and the ROI was questionable at best. So IIRC he no longer
           | does that. I'm not against the idea but someone has to
           | volunteer to pick up the task.
        
             | politelemon wrote:
             | Yeah it's a shame that Goodreads stopped giving out API
             | keys, that could have helped with automating the list to
             | some extent at least.
        
         | labrador wrote:
         | I'm getting old and my eye sight is going. Are there any read-
         | a-loud options you can recommend? The Edge browser does a
         | decent job on PDF's in a voice you can select, but it's kind of
         | hacky for an entire book.
        
           | Barrin92 wrote:
           | if you have an Alexa it can read ebooks you've bought on
           | Amazon.
        
         | compscistd wrote:
         | What's something you'd recommend to a friend as a beach read?
        
           | anjbe wrote:
           | I'll second Alex's recommendations of P. G. Wodehouse
           | (especially _Jeeves Stories_ ) and Agatha Christie.
           | 
           | A personal favorite of mine is Jules Verne's _Around the
           | World in Eighty Days_ :
           | https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/jules-verne/around-the-
           | wor...
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | The Book of Wonder is a series of weird short stories, some
           | of them gloomy and pessimistic but many with a thread of dark
           | humor. "Chu-bu and Sheemish" is one of my all-time favorite
           | short stories - it's creative and hilarious. [1]
           | 
           | I also liked _A Voyage to Arcturus_ , which has become a
           | modern cult classic. It's probably my favorite book I've read
           | for SE, though it might be a little heavy for a "beach read."
           | [2]
           | 
           | P. G. Wodehouse is always a good bet for lighter reading. [3]
           | 
           | The Martian books are also light swashbuckling sci-fi. [4]
           | 
           |  _The Murder of Roger Ackroyd_ is considered to be one of the
           | best murder mysteries ever written. [5]
           | 
           | [1] https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/lord-dunsany/the-book-
           | of-w...
           | 
           | [2] https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/david-lindsay/a-voyage-
           | to-...
           | 
           | [3] https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/p-g-wodehouse
           | 
           | [4] https://standardebooks.org/collections/martian
           | 
           | [5] https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/agatha-christie/the-
           | murder...
        
             | technothrasher wrote:
             | The first book I downloaded from standard ebooks was a PG
             | Wodehouse book. I'd never read him and figured I'd give
             | both him and the service a try. Neither disappointed.
        
             | malshe wrote:
             | Thanks a lot for doing this! I just downloaded a PG
             | Wodehouse book on the iPad and I am thoroughly impressed by
             | the quality of the book! I read PG's books when I was
             | young. I used to borrow them from a local library so I
             | don't own any of them.
        
         | NelsonMinar wrote:
         | Do you have a plan for ensuring that Standard Ebooks never gets
         | overtaken by profit-seeking spam the way Manybooks was?
         | 
         | Love your project, thank you!
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | There are no guarantees in life, but as long as I'm at the
           | helm I hope to avoid spam!
           | 
           | We do accept donations because as SE becomes more popular and
           | attracts more contributors, managing the project is
           | approaching the time required for a full-time job.
        
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         | vmilner wrote:
         | In general, I love the format, however I notice that (for
         | example), Hugh Lofting's "The Voyages of Doctor Dolittle" has
         | none of Lofting's illustrations - which seems a shame in a
         | children's book - is this a deliberate policy choice?
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | Yes, we purposely don't include decorative illustrations in
           | any ebook. (With some very rare exceptions.)
        
             | jacobolus wrote:
             | Is that just to cut down on file size?
        
             | gault8121 wrote:
             | What's the rationale for not including illustrations?
        
               | acabal wrote:
               | The ebooks we work on are often very old, and have been
               | illustrated various times over the years. We don't want
               | to have to pick and choose a single set of illustrations,
               | nor do we want to forced to constantly justify exceptions
               | for everyone's pet book, so we just have a blanket "no
               | decorative illustrations" policy.
               | 
               | Note that this only refers to _decorative_ illustrations,
               | which is not the same as an illustration required to
               | understand the text. As someone pointed out elsewhere,
               | books like Sherlock Holmes or Agatha Christie, which can
               | include narrative-critical illustrations like a map of a
               | murder scene, or nonfiction which can often have relevant
               | pictures but are not  "illustrated" in the decorative
               | sense, get to keep their images.
        
               | orzig wrote:
               | I super respect your thoughtful principles. the focus has
               | clearly paid off!
        
             | vmilner wrote:
             | Thanks - as I suspected, one of those seems to be "The
             | Return of Sherlock Holmes" where "The Dancing Men" story
             | needs the illustration to make the story understandable.
        
         | Brakenshire wrote:
         | From someone reading with a Kobo device:
         | 
         | * Have you considered putting the books onto the official
         | store? It would make it much smoother to get books on the
         | device. You could charge a small fee to pay for the effort, I'd
         | pay the extra to support the project and avoid the hassle of
         | doing an upload. I just saw above you now do bulk downloads,
         | which will help also.
         | 
         | * Although your covers are beautiful, they only appear in a
         | small corner of the screen for the Kobo devices I've used, even
         | using the Kepub format, is that a known issue?
         | 
         | And also to thank you for the effort. This project plays a
         | really important role and has been a source of pleasure for
         | many of my friends and family.
        
           | acabal wrote:
           | We've been in touch with Kobo but they haven't expressed a
           | lot of interest. We do have an integration with the Google
           | Play store, so if you search for an ebook we have in our
           | catalog, it should appear near the top.
           | 
           | I use a Kobo eink device myself and haven't noticed the cover
           | art problem you're describing. Make sure you're on the latest
           | firmware, and that you're transferring our kepub files using
           | a USB cable and not Calibre. (Calibre may attempt to apply
           | their own conversion on top of our own conversion, which can
           | result in unexpected things happening.)
        
             | Brakenshire wrote:
             | Thanks for both answers, I use Calibre, so that's the
             | reason why I'm getting that.
        
               | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
               | I've taken to just opening the SE website in the Kobo
               | experimental browser and downloading the books directly
               | onto the device that way. The browser is pretty sluggish,
               | but even then it only takes a few clicks if you know what
               | book you're looking for.
        
               | acabal wrote:
               | There's been some talk about improving the Kobo browser
               | experience, if you want to take a crack at it!
               | https://github.com/standardebooks/web/issues/126
        
             | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
             | Are you aware that someone is selling your books on Kobo
             | with the Standard Ebooks publisher name?
             | 
             | https://www.kobo.com/us/en/search?query=standard%20ebooks&a
             | c...
        
               | acabal wrote:
               | Yes, that's going to happen. The books are in the US
               | public domain and anyone in the US can do anything they
               | want with them, including reselling them. Obviously we
               | are not the ones selling these.
        
               | AequitasOmnibus wrote:
               | The stories may be public domain but your arrangement,
               | and more importantly your trade name _are_ protected. You
               | may not have the desire to take action like a dmca
               | takedown, but you 're definitely within your rights to do
               | so.
        
               | AdmiralAsshat wrote:
               | That's fair, but I'd think the issue was less about
               | copyright and more...trademark infringement? Since
               | they're selling _as_ "Standard Ebooks", I think there's
               | reasonable grounds for confusion that someone browsing
               | the Kobo store might see one of the books being offered
               | as coming _from you_ and make a purchase as a kind of
               | donation, thinking that it 's going towards SE's upkeep
               | rather than into some random's pocket.
        
       | Farbklex wrote:
       | What would be a good affordable ebook reader to enjoy this books?
        
         | TheFreim wrote:
         | I have a KOBO Libra H20, it is very good. I loaded KOReader on
         | to it which adds functionality
         | (https://github.com/koreader/koreader).
        
       | pronoiac wrote:
       | Huh. Choosing a book at somewhat random - Mike by P.G. Wodehouse
       | - neither the compatible or advanced (experimental?) epubs are
       | working terribly well in Bluefire Reader on my iPad. I might poke
       | at this with Calibre. Or if there are recommendations for another
       | epub reader, with the caveat that I need annotations.
       | 
       | It looks like the workflow is per book. That ... seems odd.
        
         | acabal wrote:
         | iBooks is at the moment the best ebook renderer for iPad, hands
         | down. If there are specific issues that look very bad on
         | Bluefire Reader, please send a note to our mailing list with
         | details so we can take a look!
        
         | dirkt wrote:
         | Calibre actually does horrible things to the HTML source that
         | hides in each epub. While Standard Ebooks do promote awesome
         | HTML. If you run Calibre on it, it's ruined.
         | 
         | An epub is just a zip file. Open it up, look inside, see for
         | yourself.
        
           | rkapsoro wrote:
           | Isn't this only if you use Calibre to do a _conversion_ on
           | the epub?
           | 
           | Calibre can just be used as a library, right?
        
           | zufallsheld wrote:
           | Can you explain or link to some resources on what calibre
           | does with ebooks?
        
       | hackernewds wrote:
       | Sad this only has 9/70 patrons??
        
       | billybuckwheat wrote:
       | This is a great project. It's really prodded me to reread some
       | classics, and read more than a few I've never tried to tackle
       | before.
       | 
       | I really should donate a few dollars to the project to show my
       | appreciation and to try to help (in a small way) keep it going.
        
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