[HN Gopher] Greg can't use encrypted apps and must open his phon... ___________________________________________________________________ Greg can't use encrypted apps and must open his phone for police at any time Author : adrian_mrd Score : 32 points Date : 2022-07-31 21:56 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.abc.net.au) (TXT) w3m dump (www.abc.net.au) | anothernewdude wrote: | Sounds like Australia to me. | motohagiography wrote: | After a discussion with a lawyer friend (not australia, canada, | so tangentially related), the "presumption of innocence" that | would not obligate this person to have or produce a key for | whatever gibberish someone sends to their devices, is what's | known in legal circles as a "principle of fundamental justice," | and it is not a right that is either absolute or inaliable the | way that american rights are set up. | | One doesn't need to agree with the persons cause to recognize | this is another extreme overstepping of authority on the part of | that government to mandate that the people who communicate with | the person subject to this order may also not protect their own | commuications from interception, and that the person subject to | the order must somehow produce a key for whatever data gets sent | to him. | | Given the cynical application of laws and their moderating | charter exceptions in places like Australia and Canada over the | last few years, I could forsee a new republican movement emerging | in commonwealth countries, as it's pretty clear CAN/AUS/NZ have | dispensed with notions of fundamental justice, and have a "so sue | me," approach to legislation and governance, as this stuff is | just too stupid to be reasoned with. The language means nothing, | the principles mean nothing. It's no longer about tech, it's | about what our options are when the state has demonstrated | official contempt for the people it ostensibly serves. | kgeist wrote: | I just checked that the right against self-incrimination exists | in Australia, too. Isn't it a violation of this law to require | someone to tell their passwords? | deathgripsss wrote: | This seems incredibly Draconian for a climate protestor. Would | this prohibit him from accessing cryptocurrencies? | anothernewdude wrote: | Dude is a climate activist. I think other things preclude him | from cryptocurrency. | e12e wrote: | Not only that; this is before a guilty verdict! | | > Mr Rolles has pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. | | And it certainly seems extreme: | | > Mr Davis said one of his clients had been pulled in by police | after they reacted with a "thumbs up" emoji to Facebook | comments shared by friends who were also allegedly part of | Blockade Australia activities. | | > "A thumbs up, it's not much in terms of communication," the | activist told the ABC. | | > "The fact that the state finds that threatening -- people | talking and sharing our ideas -- is very telling." | | > No breach of bail charges were ultimately pursued over the | "likes". ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-07-31 23:00 UTC)