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       Show HN: MutableAI (YC W22) - Copilot Alternative for VS Code
        
       Hi HN! We're MutableAI (YC W22) (https://mutable.ai). Our mission
       is to reduce the time and cost to create high quality code using
       AI. We have worked at the full gamut of companies ranging from
       startups to big tech and have gotten the sense that many of the
       rote aspects of software development could be made easier, freeing
       up precious mental energy.  Devs love Copilot, but autocomplete is
       just one of many ways that AI should make programming easier. We're
       taking a more comprehensive approach to developer tooling that
       bundles Copilot-like autocomplete with documentation, custom AI
       instruction, and some early refactoring capabilities (Python only)
       in one extension. We currently support Javascript/Typescript,
       Python, Go, and Rust, with more coming soon. Overview (w/ bg music)
       [1].  In addition to autocomplete, which can be triggered either
       automatically or manually, we can add documentation to all your
       methods in a Rust file, or you can ask the AI to insert missing
       imports in a Python file. In some cases we can get really
       sophisticated and ask it to program a game from scratch or update
       your REST interface to accommodate a new data payload.  We use a
       combination of AI (e.g. OpenAI codex) and AST transformation /
       metaprogramming techniques on the backend. We are also working on
       providing other backend solutions for varying needs, including on-
       prem deployments.  We soft launched our product with a small cohort
       of users and want to welcome more of you to our pilot beta. We hope
       you enjoy the product and look forward to learning from you.  We
       are currently in an extended free trial phase for early adopters
       and plan to keep a free tier for solo devs and open source
       contributors. We also offer a generous discount to startups. For
       enterprise please reach out to info@mutable.ai  We want to thank
       our very earliest users and invite the HN community to try the
       product installing it via the VS Code marketplace [2]. We're
       looking forward to hearing your comments and feedback, or feature
       suggestions!  [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-gKEbgyzCg  [2]
       https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mutable-...
        
       Author : oshams
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2022-08-03 16:48 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | osoderlund wrote:
       | This is so cool! Congrats on the launch!
        
       | bratao wrote:
       | Congrats, very excited to try. Any chance of supporting JetBrains
       | IDEs?
        
         | oshams wrote:
         | No immediate plans to do so unfortunately (but it's an
         | inevitability in the long term).
        
       | pleonasticity wrote:
       | This does prompt hacking and calls OpenAI's Codex, which seems
       | more like a clone than an alternative to Copilot.
        
         | oshams wrote:
         | Thanks for your comment. Our vision of this space goes beyond
         | autocompletion, for example currently we have documentation and
         | the code edit functionality. We are also building out our own
         | LLMs to support other functionality like AI refactoring.
        
       | mrkhalil wrote:
       | Super useful product and really tight execution. Excited to see
       | how this evolves.
        
       | ShepherdKing wrote:
       | I'm a bit out of the loop on these, but,
       | 
       | 1) Is there any Copilot alternative that is open source, and,
       | 
       | 2) Is there any Copilot alternative that works with Vim?
        
         | woojoo666 wrote:
         | > Is there any Copilot alternative that is open source
         | 
         | In fact one was posted yesterday!
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32327711
        
         | oshams wrote:
         | Not sure about 1, but I know for 2 you can use the vim VS Code
         | extension as a good emulator.
        
       | jedwhite wrote:
       | Congrats on the launch! What is your thinking with the on-prem
       | deployments? Would that work along the lines of something like
       | Hugging Face's new Private Hub?
        
         | oshams wrote:
         | Thanks for your question! I am not super familiar with Private
         | Hub, but I envision companies wanting their own networks (which
         | don't necessarily have to be on-prem) for many reasons. This
         | allows for fine tuning the network on company/team code idioms,
         | lower latency, and even fine tuning for very company specific
         | applications (say translating their APIs from one language they
         | develop in to all other languages they support).
        
       | shekhar101 wrote:
       | Congrats on the launch and really want this to succeed. I think I
       | write too many trivial code that can be replaced by AI like this
       | - like writing simple auth stuff or json parsing logic etc in my
       | projects. However, I just installed it in VS Code and tried it in
       | my Django project.
       | 
       | Feedback:
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       | 1. I like the refractoring suggestions. Really cool and had some
       | awesome suggestions right off the bat.
       | 
       | 2. I tried to give instructions to write a method and it simply
       | failed. I tried something like: "write a method to parse json
       | object and parse non-zero values from it". All it did was add a
       | method called parseJson(json) with pass as body :( I tried a few
       | different variations to get a method written by mutable but got
       | nothing except new lines.
       | 
       | Anyway, wish you the success. I would love to see more players in
       | this space. I feel a strong need for this kind of AI that can
       | supplement my day to day coding .
        
         | oshams wrote:
         | Thank you for trying us out and we appreciate your
         | congratulations. We are moving very fast so you should notice
         | steady improvements all the time. We are serious about training
         | our own LLMs and believe a competitive one can be trained on a
         | seed startups budget.
        
           | shekhar101 wrote:
           | Is there a way to provide feedback for each suggestion in the
           | editor?
        
             | oshams wrote:
             | Feedback that goes directly to us? We've thought about
             | having a feature where you give us feedback and a ticket is
             | filed with the code snippet in question (and the AI
             | suggestion). Is that what you mean?
        
               | shekhar101 wrote:
               | Yes, something like that. Even a thumbs up, or down or a
               | way to let you know that the suggestions didn't work for
               | me.
        
               | oshams wrote:
               | Makes sense. We can also learn from this!
        
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