[HN Gopher] The case of fake IMDB credits ___________________________________________________________________ The case of fake IMDB credits Author : HelenePhisher Score : 320 points Date : 2022-08-07 15:08 UTC (7 hours ago) (HTM) web link (peabee.substack.com) (TXT) w3m dump (peabee.substack.com) | squeebie23 wrote: | I find it interesting that nowhere in the article did the author | write the name of the actor / musician he's referring to, it's | only highlighted in pictures. Maybe trying not to add to this | guy's SEO? | miyuru wrote: | The fake musician thing mentioned in the article is also used to | get verified accounts in Twitter, Facebook and Instagram as well. | technothrasher wrote: | I looked my own name up on IMDB and found that I had starred in a | soft-core gay porn movie. I was intrigued, but somewhat | disappointed that I didn't remember any of it. Also disappointed | that it seems to have been the start and end of my illustrious | film career. | hackernewds wrote: | There could be others with the same name as you? | technothrasher wrote: | By Jove, Watson, I think you've cracked the case! | xaxaxb wrote: | I stopped IMDBing long ago and switched to Metacritic, which is | what I currently trust for anything entertainment-related. | russfink wrote: | More likely is that this guy used a service. Or, he could start a | service. Or he is the service, and this profile is his calling | card. | entropie wrote: | Maybe part of a scam, like Geo Slam who pretends to be a top | notch Hollywood producer which lots of connections to get money | (and vacations, and...) | | Strg+f, german investigative journalists, made a nice story about | that case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KV8i2Q1TXU (german, | should have english subtiltes) | Cupertino95014 wrote: | Wait. You're saying I can make myself an actor in a major motion | picture? Hold my beer. | squarefoot wrote: | IMDB lost all my respect many years ago when they made clear with | their actions that they support fake reviews. When the problem | started to grow beyond the occasional vandalism, they still had a | very effective discussion section in which users soon began to | expose fake reviews. Their response? Of course remove the | discussion section! IMDB today has some use for their database | only; but they lost any credibility on everything else. | tailspin2019 wrote: | Yes their ratings used to be quite useful but it's the clear | that people have been gaming the system for quite some time | now. | | I'm amazed to have just found out that they're owned by Amazon | (from other comments here). I can't believe I never realised | that. | | I guess that the increasingly meaningless ratings and reviews | should have been a massive clue... | [deleted] | MichaelCollins wrote: | Comment sections on many websites across the net got scrapped | around the same time. Ostensibly because some people use them | to say nasty things, but really I think it's about keeping the | masses consuming rather than creating. The corporations prefer | that creation of content and narratives be restricted to an | elite few, while the masses dutifully consume. At the end of | the day it's about protecting their bottom line. | dvt wrote: | > I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than | creating. | | Not really sure I see this. Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, | YouTube, etc. base their entire _business model_ on the | masses creating content. Sure there 's a Pareto distribution | when it comes to creators vs consumers, but the platforms | certainly make money from (and encourage) both. | misnome wrote: | Right, it seems much more likely that if it isn't your | primary business model, it's just not worth the hassle? | [deleted] | rapind wrote: | > I think it's about keeping the masses consuming rather than | creating. | | No, it's about moderation cost and preventing discussions | that can hurt their brand or partners or customers. Also SEO | spam whackamole. | nostromo wrote: | For prominent news sites, controlling the narrative was a | big motivation in removing comments. | | Many journalists were open about how they didn't like how | comments would question the data or conclusions in their | articles. There were too many heckling comments from the | peanut gallery so they closed it entirely. | johannes1234321 wrote: | For controlling the narratives comments would be great: | rank agreeing comments up to show that many people share | the view. | | However the reality is that moderating comments is a | pain. Too many people writing the most crazy stuff. It | doesn't take many "passionate" commentors to ruin a | section. One has to simply browse through Facebook | comments on any popular topic. | sizzle wrote: | Someone should build a dead simple extension that adds | comments back to every website. | bragr wrote: | There's a reason wikipedia classifies IMDB as an unreliable | source. Apparently Michael Madsen has a real problem with people | adding him to films in production in an effort to get financing. | | https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Michael-Madsen-Hates-IMD... | leephillips wrote: | That's hilarious. Wikipedia classifies IMDB as unreliable | because...anyone can edit its pages. | theamk wrote: | ..without public edit history, active moderators and useful | watch tools. | judge2020 wrote: | Wikipedia allows anyone to audit edits and raise issues if | things are fishy. IMDb allows edits but the history is only | visible to admins. | Eleison23 wrote: | IMDb is crowdsourced and accepts user data submissions. | https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution- | info... | | External users are not part of it. It's a "curated" model. | IMDb clearly stakes their reputation on accuracy and | comprehensive coverage. IMDb's TOS ensures that you | relinquish all copyright claims and grant them an exclusive | license to your content. IMDb won't cite their sources nor | attribute contributors. They own and control everything on | the site. Their rates for abuse and misinformation are | unpublished. IMDb is an opaque, black box. | | Wikipedia has a similar model for protecting articles known | as "Pending Changes". Anyone can submit an edit to the | article, but the revisions and new data is held back from | the "front page" publication until approved by someone with | the proper user rights. Almost anyone in good standing can | obtain those rights, and it's 100% transparent. Every edit | is reviewable by anyone with Internet access, every edit is | attributed and licensed under CC-BY-SA. The servers, | editors, and bots track and tag vandalism and other forms | of abuse with public records. Verifiability is mandatory. | jwilk wrote: | Wikipedia is not considered reliable either: | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Wikipe. | .. | | > _Content from a Wikipedia article is not considered | reliable unless it is backed up by citing reliable sources. | Confirm that these sources support the content, then use them | directly._ | | But, unlike IMDB, it's (supposed to be) verifiable. | chx wrote: | Except you can use obscure dead tree books as sources and | no one will take the effort to check whether the book | indeed says so. Use a book obscure enough -- especially in | a non-English language -- and it becomes almost impossible | to execute said check. | johannes1234321 wrote: | It depend so. The amount of trust I want to give. By | citing an obscure book I can judge the fact "hm, that | book sounds obscure, why isn't there some other source?" | and then decide how much weight I give to it. | | And if I don't have the book at hand I can identify the | person who added the citation and can see what other | edits they did to judge their domain knowledge. | chx wrote: | No one does this. And Wikipedia myths spread to other | media until it's hard to pinpoint where it started. | stordoff wrote: | Sometimes referred to as citogenesis: https://en.wikipedi | a.org/wiki/Circular_reporting#Circular_re... | | There is a list of known incidents: https://en.wikipedia. | org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_citogenesis_... | throwawayaug8 wrote: | According to Wikipedia Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. | That's how reliable Wikipedia is | pvorb wrote: | Where did you read that? I highly doubt that such a | change will get approved. | marak830 wrote: | "The company was incorporated as Tesla Motors, Inc. on | July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc | Tarpenning.[13]" | | No, it doesn't. | nostromo wrote: | IMDB is just as verifiable as Wikipedia. | | It cites its sources. In fact, all it is a list of | citations. | _trampeltier wrote: | A bit of topic. Does anyone know, why the english Wikipedia | site about the JFK movie does not talk about what was | fiction, what was true in the movie and what is unknow? On | the german page about the movie, they have a lot about it. | | I understand there are differences in languages. But in | this case, in english, the most important information is | missing. So it's just a movie, all fiction?!? | | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_(film) | starik36 wrote: | I was an extra in an indie film because a friend asked me to | help out. Lo and behold - I now have an IMDB page - presumably | the film producer added me. | | Fast forward a year and now there are 5 films credited to my | name. I had nothing to do with 4 of them. I am unclear how and | why this is happening. | 7speter wrote: | I remember imdb being meticulous in its record keeping ~15 years | ago/before it got bought by Amazon (though its quality held up | for at least a few years after). I remember looking up details | for kinda obscure movies and talent, and my mind being blown when | info for either was listed. Now, it takes years to see the | filmography of a given actor from a streaming show. | politelemon wrote: | Side note, I'd really appreciate if you could close off your | opening (. I don't know where to stop reading with a lower | volume in my head. | 7speter wrote: | Thanks for pointing that out. I do it from time to time and | always try to catch myself but didnt this time. | whutsurnaym wrote: | Now you've added another one!! | jffry wrote: | )) | jwilk wrote: | https://xkcd.com/859/ | drexlspivey wrote: | IndentationError: Unexpected indent | MichaelCollins wrote: | > _~15 years ago /before it got bought by Amazon_ | | They were bought by Amazon 24 years ago now, in 1998. | 7speter wrote: | Guess thats the Mandela Effect in action :). It was a lot | better for a time until maybe 2010 and went downhill. | UIUC_06 wrote: | Poor boys from India game a system that was set up by Rich Tech | Bros in Silicon Valley to fund their "family foundations" and | 20-room houses in Atherton? | | I don't call it Outrage; I call it "Slumdog Millionaire: Part II" | robocat wrote: | I hate it when people create a false narrative to back up their | prejudices. | | The beginnings of IMDB started in 1990 as personal files, soon | moved to Usenet with a few people managing different | information, then first on the WWW hosted by Cardiff University | in 1993, and the company was then incorporated in the UK in | 1996, and sold to Amazon in 1998. | | https://www.theatreartlife.com/lifestyle/history-of-an-indis... | UIUC_06 wrote: | OnlyMortal wrote: | IMDB originated in Bristol in the UK. It was, so I'm told, | started by an ex-HP staffer from the HP site in Bristol, UK and | originally written in Perl. | | Unfortunately, it was absorbed into Amazon. | | Source: ex-HP staffer in Bristol. | cobbaut wrote: | IMDB originated on usenet. Someone mentioned a hot actress, | another person made a top three of actresses... a bit later | is was a top 100, and that is how IMDB started. Source: my | memory :) | hackernewds wrote: | You're using "Slumdog Millionaire" in the same context that | Indians here despise the movie for. Using it as a pretext for | focusing on the poverty in India as almost a fetishized poking | from the West (ironically by the British) | UIUC_06 wrote: | I haven't actually been to India, but I'm reliably informed | that there IS some poverty there. Is that incorrect? | svat wrote: | As someone wrote:[1] | | > _Let's say I made a movie about the US where an African- | American boy born in the hood, has his mother sell him to a | pedophile pop icon, after which he gets molested by a | priest from his church, following which he gets tied up to | the back of a truck and dragged on the road by KKK | clansmen. Then he is arrested and sodomized by a policeman | with a rod, after which he is attacked by a gang of illegal | immigrants, and then uses these life experiences to win | "Beauty and The Geek"._ | | > _Even though each of these incidents have actually | happened in the United States of America, I would be | accused of spinning a fantastic yarn that has no grounding | in reality, that has no connection to the "American | experience" and my motivations would be questioned, no | matter how cinematically spectacular I made my movie._ | | [1]: https://greatbong.net/2008/12/29/slumdog-millionaire- | the-rev... | UIUC_06 wrote: | It would probably be a flop in India, but I'm not the | best person to judge that. | | I think depictions of the US in overseas movies are | pretty much as silly as that, though. Everything takes | place in very rich or very poor parts of NYC or LA. | | As for "I would probably be accused" -- maybe in India. | In the US it wouldn't even rate a review. | jlg23 wrote: | No, that is not incorrect; but there also is much more. | UIUC_06 wrote: | RC_ITR wrote: | IMDb was founded in Cardiff England. | helsinkiandrew wrote: | There's a thousand Welshman looking for your blood now. | Cardiff is in Wales. | | Initially was called the Cardiff Internet Movie Database (it | was hosted at the university of Cardiff) | wyldfire wrote: | For the majority of my youth, I had assumed that England, | Great Britain and the United Kingdom were all aliases for | the same place. Thankfully I never had occasion to reveal | this error to UK folks who might be alienated by it. | yesenadam wrote: | Not only _in_ Wales but is the capital. (source: am Welsh) | RC_ITR wrote: | I mean hot take, but the whole "United Kingdom" concept is | sort of pointless. | | Either confirm to international norms, or accept that no | one outside your borders cares. | | There's a reason why the only major organization that | respects the distinction is the governing body of the | national sport. | UIUC_06 wrote: | Not being from the UK: | | It's not really pointless. Scotland is way different from | England, and I haven't been to Wales but I think that is, | too. | | As for Northern Ireland: I don't even need to cover that | one. | briandear wrote: | Except it's lying. Slumdog actually had the talent. | superjan wrote: | Where is the outrage you are referring to? | [deleted] | mkl95 wrote: | IMDB created a Top Rated Indian Movies section to mitigate spam | [1]. However some obscure Indian movies make it every now and | then into the regular Top 250 list. | | [1] https://www.imdb.com/india/top-rated-indian-movies/ | nickphx wrote: | What do you get for doing that though? | shmde wrote: | The person doing it gets money and the person taking the | service gets fake verified clout.(could lead to future gigs, | shows) | edent wrote: | "Don't you know who I am? Google me!" | | Works equally well in job interviews, dates, and getting in to | clubs. | drexlspivey wrote: | I just put "2006 Times Person of the Year" on my resume | goldcd wrote: | I think Subhankar has a good future ahead of him writing copy and | press releases for startups. | TedShiller wrote: | You can see the same effect on Quora | sharmin123 wrote: | wenbin wrote: | This kind of happens in the podcast world as well. | | Many people/companies create fake podcasts and submit to all | podcast directories / apps. The main purpose is to do blackhat | SEO - links in the rss feed will be syndicated to podcast | directory sites / apps. | | In fact, any "directory of something" sites will be gamed if user | created contents are allowed, e.g., directory of movies / | podcasts / local businesses / books... | xwdv wrote: | Will a knowledge panel on google help you get verified on various | social networks? Or does anyone here have connection$ for getting | verified on social networks? | dav_Oz wrote: | I remember the imdb-ratings on movies from India were also | absurdly high, I brushed it off as a cultural thing back then; | but unfortunately [0] the rigging seems to be norm on imdb across | the board (not limited to India). | | [0]https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/the- | kashmir... | rurban wrote: | Indian fake ratings are a big thing, but from my own experience | collecting good ratings, I can attest that keeping fakes out if | the system is a big effort, and it cannot be done manually. I | implemented a complicated but fair statistical system to keep | fake ratings out from my site. But I'm only doing the top 3 | film festivals, not all the crap. The manual blacklist is still | huge. | | In the west the biggest offender is A24 btw. | | And to be fair to the Indian movies: The top Indian movies are | usually better than the best western movies. But we didn't have | top Indian movies for almost over a decade now. | yes_no wrote: | hackernewds wrote: | This seems like one of the widest tangents to an unrelated | (even if important) topic I've seen on HN :) | hef19898 wrote: | Hoenstly, the recent trend of specifically created accoubts | posting shit like that under everything even just remotely | India related is troublesome. Especially since it either to | paint any, slight criticism as being anti-Hinu and anti- | Modi or to paint Indians as victims of cololianism (true, | but no excuse to do whatever you want and usually used | totally out of cont!xt) or those evil Muslims (using the | same made up shit Islamophobs in the West use). HN is no | place to spread propagabda of any kind, would be nice to | keep it that way. | guesswho_ wrote: | humaniania wrote: | After Amazon bought IMDB it became more about advertising for | movies and less about being a database. Same thing as when | Warner Bros and Universal Studios (via its parent Comcast) | bought RottenTomatoes. Now everything brags about it's RT | rating when it's coming from 2 movie studios... | 411111111111111 wrote: | RT at least still has viewer ratings. You predictably can't | sort by them but it's at least an indicator if the reviewer | and viewer score are on completely different heights. | | And you've got trakt.tv now too, not sure if anyone owns that | cobbaut wrote: | > After Amazon bought IMDB it became more about advertising | for movies and less about being a database. | | Yes, but several years later, since Amazon bought IMDB back | in 1998! | tyingq wrote: | >less about being a database | | I do really like the "X-ray" feature in Amazon Prime, which I | assume is partially powered by IMDB. I miss it when using | other services like HBOMax, Netflix, etc. | [deleted] | nick9847 wrote: | Is the Apu trilogy good for real? | AlbertCory wrote: | I'm very proud to say we did show that in the Google Cinema | Club, and in fact we had a professor from UCSC who specializes | in Ray films come and show it and answer questions. He knew Ray | personally. | mrwh wrote: | It's been many years since I last saw it, but I remember the | first film in particular as being wonderful, yes. Hopeful and | sad and luminously shot. | abruzzi wrote: | yes, but 'Distant Thunder' is my favorite from the same | director. | js2 wrote: | https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-the-apu-trilo... | leephillips wrote: | It's a classic series of Bengali films, widely adored. | jwilk wrote: | > the edits are not reviewed effectively either | | But when I tried to fix typo in the cast list of a movie, my | submission was rejected: | | > _Your contribution has been declined. We have been unable to | verify your contribution. Unfortunately we were unable to accept | your submission as we were unable to verify the information | provided._ | tyingq wrote: | I wonder how many people have successfully bootstrapped acting | gigs this way. Perhaps not the guy in the example, as his various | poorly written bios expose him. But surely there are people that | are better at this game. | netsharc wrote: | Why even bother with getting an acting gig where they'll figure | out you can't even act? Just fake the fame (is it fake if | Google says it's real?), and get free meals, etc (hah, I guess | Instagram was the platform for this a while ago). | | There are people like the fake heiress Anna Sorokin who faked | being wealthy, who's even getting movie deals after being | caught, but never admitting to being wrong (this statement not | checked for accuracy, I just noticed an interview where she | seems to be claiming it's all been a misunderstanding). The | world's a funny place. | | A Formula 1 racer got his career started when he got himself a | lift with 2 bosses of 2 different teams - each of them thought | he was friends with the other guy. He talked his way into a | driving job, but of course, once there, he had to show he could | race. | cubancigar11 wrote: | Seo is a fair play and I don't see why we are so quick to blame | young people. It is Google that should be blamed for making | themselves more important than they deserve to be. | Mo3 wrote: | This is not SEO, it's fraud and deception. | NoSorryCannot wrote: | A lot of what is labeled and sold as "SEO" might as well be | diet fraud. Plagiarism, false advertising, astroturfing, | etc. It certainly isn't just letting the Google bot know | what your website is about. | tyingq wrote: | I agree, though I think it's fair play to try and do | things that the Google algorithm likes...but are not | directly related to quality. | | Say somewhere in the bowels of their ML pipelines, | features that get scored include things like _" has a | favicon.ico and it's unique and not seen elsewhere"_. | Well, then doing that isn't really fraud to me. It's just | adding "proxies for quality" so you aren't dinged for not | having them. | cubancigar11 wrote: | Ummm, this is SEO? Because it is a hack from google's algo? | This is exactly my problem with the "hackers" here and the | article's author - conflating the action with content. He | finds an unscroupolous usage of that hack and generalizes | without any effort that all of it is fraud. | | It is not okay to glide over the 'young people' part and | generally not being empathetic to those trying to beat the | market. If it is fraud, which is a crime, are you | suggesting these people should be sent to jail? Because if | not then you shouldn't use the that word. Words have | meaning. | theamk wrote: | I would love to have a way to punish people for | submitting knownlingly bad information to publicly | editable databases like IMDB (note I don't care about | Google, it is IMDB that should be protected) | | Jail is too much, but it woukd be nice to have a fine of | some sort, because "poisining the well" for everyone is | really not cool. | | (in practice any such system would be abused a lot, so we | are probably better off with status quo.. but in the | ideal world we'd punish those people) | cubancigar11 wrote: | Right. We can achieve heaven if we just punish every sin. | Not trusting almighty Google's algorithm is just too much | sacrifice the good people are making. | | Promoting publicly editable database as authoritative is | high bar we must achieve at the cost of just banning | juvenile behavior. | josephcsible wrote: | Making up lies about yourself to make yourself look better | than you really are is "fair play"? | nslzk wrote: | I'll never get tired of saying that we need two separate | internets, one for the west and another for the east. | gameshot911 wrote: | That's an intriguing idea... I'd be interested if you care to | expand upon it! | nslzk wrote: | Well that's the gist of it... make it so easterns can't | access western websites and other internet services and vice | versa. | jimnotgym wrote: | What outcome did you have in mind? | joostshao wrote: | it harmful for indian film growth, evently. it is also happen in | china, with real account to post a high score to bad movie, | somebody can get money from this event. | | create fake data by fake account or sub account, someone even | have no watch the movie in theater, just post low score, it make | people angry | croes wrote: | Reminds of this "Man fools security to backstage at a Peking Duk | gig by changing the band's Wikipedia page to describe himself as | a family member" | | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345074/Man-fools-s... | walrus01 wrote: | Now imagine where he could get to if he had a high-vis vest and | a clipboard | Strom wrote: | A great strategy but has its limits. Just a few weeks ago | some guys tried a rather good version of this strategy in | Estonia to sneak into a Rammstein concert. Not only did they | have high-vis vests, but one of them also had high-vis pants, | both of them had working gloves and they were carrying a | ladder. [1] | | It didn't work out though, they didn't get past security. I | think one of the major flaws in their attempt was that they | arrived too late, thousands of regular people were already on | the premises. They should have come early in the morning. | | -- | | [1] https://f7.pmo.ee/Rur- | qzbdJAu0h_EKSRoidSHPFsg=/1536x0/nginx/... | andrewfromx wrote: | Changing a wikipedia article to get past Security is literally | an episode of Mr. Robot Season 1. | https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/62560-mr-robot | Eleison23 wrote: | chrisseaton wrote: | Is 'to backstage' a verb? | wyldfire wrote: | You should read this like "man fools { security-to-the- | backstage }" not "man fools { security } in order to | _backstage_ ". | chrisseaton wrote: | But in British English 'security to backstage' would | usually be 'security for backstage' or 'backstage | security'. | wyldfire wrote: | I think that US English writers/readers would also find | the latter the most common term for that noun phrase. I | think the most likely explanation is that the | writer+editor(s) did not choose the words well to | describe the situation. | mpclark wrote: | This is a headline, not British English ;) | fsckboy wrote: | in English it's relatively common to verbify. If you figure | out a reliable way to get backstage, you can thereafter | backstage whenever you want. | pigtailgirl wrote: | -- Well you're from Cheshire - and that's the DailyMail - so | you tell us! =) -- | aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: | security to backstage = the security personnel protecting the | entry to the backstage area | waspight wrote: | I have always wondered about the ratings. It seems to me that all | movies below 6 is trash. Has this always been this way? One would | imagine that a 5 star rating would be ok since it is right | between 0 (bad) and 10 (great). I guess some kind of inflation in | the ratings is going on, but how is such things prevented in | these kinds of ratings over time? Is it even possible to prevent? | duckmysick wrote: | L'equipe, a French sports newspaper, sticks to the traditional | interpretation of the 1-10 scale when rating players' | performances. In football (soccer), they rate all players on | both teams who played enough minutes, so there's at least 22 | ratings per match - 5/10 being average and 10/10 being truly | exceptional. | | Since the late 80s they have given only a dozen or so perfect | 10/10 ratings. Almost half of them was given in the past five | years, so I guess inflation creeps up everywhere. | zaik wrote: | Maybe today's football players are simply performing better | than players from the 80s? | ScottEvtuch wrote: | I think the false assumption you are making is that the | "average" movie is good. There are a lot of trash movies out | there. | dhosek wrote: | I tend to view 1-10 ratings differently than 1-5. 1-5 is more | like (American) letter grades where 3 stars equals a C and is | average. On a 1-10 rating, it's more like percentages so 9-10 | is an A, 8-9 a B, 7-8 a C, 6-7 a D and less than 6 an F. I've | seen elsewhere that at least one aggregator does similar to | convert between 1-10 scales and 5-star scales so I think that | this is a common unspoken assumption of the relation between | the two scales. | radiojasper wrote: | "Besides being an Actor, he tried his luck in acting and | singing." | | I thought I was cross-eyed for a second, but it really says | exactly that. [0] | | [0] reupload as substack URLS are daunting to say the least: | https://jasper.monster/sharex/Ygg0w8VuhP.jpg | personjerry wrote: | Anyone know how to replicate this to get a knowledge panel for | startup-building clout? Asking for a friend | usremane wrote: | Man creates internet. | | Internet helps man. | | Man creates spam. | | Spam destroys internet. | | Spam destroys man. | | Spam rules the world. | HelipadSweeper wrote: | ndriiu- wrote: | ndriiu- wrote: | bredren wrote: | > In a world where your online clout is everything... | | It's a long arc, but I think we are bending away from this. | | It's harder than ever to convincingly be a competitive content | creator. | | Going from largely Insta photos -> tiktok forced non-linear video | editing / performance on fast trend cycles. | chevman wrote: | Happens everyday all day in BigCo land! | | You think those execs really did all those things they said they | did? | groffee wrote: | "Single-handedly managed the successful upgrade and deployment | of new environmental illumination system with zero cost | overruns and zero safety incidents." | cromulent wrote: | Light-bulb changing embellishments, and also outright lying | about their qualifications. | | https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/management/telstra- | shou... ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-08-07 23:00 UTC)