[HN Gopher] Modern Malaise
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       Modern Malaise
        
       Author : mikalauskas
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2022-08-13 18:11 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | andrewmutz wrote:
       | The problem is not that wages are growing too slowly, that is the
       | symptom.
       | 
       | The problem is that productivity is growing too slowly.
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       | Fixing the problem requires far more technology and automation
       | than we have delivered.
        
         | jackcosgrove wrote:
         | If productivity grows primarily because of enabling capital,
         | the proceeds from this growth will accrue more to the owner of
         | capital than the laborer, roughly proportional to the
         | contribution of each.
         | 
         | The problem is that human capital has saturated for many
         | people. This is borne out by stagnating gains in education.
         | 
         | If productivity gains occur mostly because of technology with
         | little human input, then that further bifurcates society
         | between owners of that technology and everyone else. This does
         | not help alleviate the modern malaise.
         | 
         | People are quick to point out the dropping of the gold
         | standard, the end of cheap fossil fuels, the neoliberal
         | economic changes, etc. that all occurred during the 1970s, and
         | those all matter. But there's another factor which is that
         | educational outcomes began to stagnate.
         | 
         | I don't think returning productivity growth to the postwar rate
         | would have as much of an effect as it did then, because more of
         | the productivity growth would be because of technology with
         | concentrated ownership rather than broad gains in human
         | ability.
        
       | burlesona wrote:
       | I think a major problem with globalization is that workers in
       | relatively wealthy nations don't care that workers in relatively
       | poor nations are doing massively better than they were a
       | generation or two ago. Being able to buy cheaper stuff from
       | abroad is a no substitute for experiencing upward mobility
       | yourself.
        
       | peatfreak wrote:
       | I was taking this article seriously until I arrived at the
       | Terrence McKenna bit. His opinions are highly subjective, based
       | on personal experience with drugs, and they aren't a compelling,
       | testable, or comparable line of thought. Not to mention that TM
       | is pretentious as hell and basis his whole outlook on life on
       | doing loads of DMT (he hardly talks about anything else).
        
         | oarabbus_ wrote:
         | Not only that, Terrence McKenna followed by Ayn Rand
        
       | svnpenn wrote:
       | > https://twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1335725267340251137
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       | Even people in the top 10% are making basically nothing. This was
       | taken two years ago, but I would suspect the current situation is
       | the same or worse. I'm not sure how to fix this, but I think
       | something should be done. People in the top 1% or 0.1% should
       | make more per month than someone in the top 10%, but the
       | difference shouldn't be this stark.
        
         | cercatrova wrote:
         | Why should the difference not be so stark? That's how the power
         | law works, most people follow only a few accounts.
        
           | svnpenn wrote:
           | > That's how the power law works
           | 
           | who says that the payout distribution has to follow the power
           | law? And even if it does naturally, OnlyFans doesn't have to
           | just let it happen. They could take a bigger cut from the
           | larger accounts, and distribute it such that the payouts are
           | more linear.
        
             | svnt wrote:
             | If they do this, won't they just fracture and drive the
             | larger accounts elsewhere?
        
               | svnpenn wrote:
               | If every single user wants to be a soulless robot (pure
               | capitalism), then yes. However if the userbase
               | understands that larger accounts will be subject to
               | larger fees, _in order to support smaller accounts_ ,
               | then I would like to think at least some users would
               | support that. Not everything in life has to be decided on
               | a purely selfish basis.
        
             | oarabbus_ wrote:
             | >who says that the payout distribution has to follow the
             | power law?
             | 
             | The payout distribution is proportional to the number of
             | subscribers, which follows a power law.
             | 
             | >And even if it does naturally, OnlyFans doesn't have to
             | just let it happen. They could take a bigger cut from the
             | larger accounts, and distribute it such that the payouts
             | are more linear.
             | 
             | How is taking a larger relative cut from the content
             | creators bringing in the most traffic a good (much less
             | optimal) business decision?
        
           | metadat wrote:
           | Do YouTube, Insta, and TikTok also have similar
           | distributions?
           | 
           | Maybe slightly less skewed but these sorts of networks seem
           | to promote a winner-takes-all situation for each
           | differentiated subsegment.
        
       | paulpauper wrote:
       | _In the 80s Thatcher and Reagan broke down trade barriers and
       | ceded government power to banks and corporations. This created a
       | consumer world driven by debt, where everything was assessed by
       | utility. Politics essentially "became a wing of management,
       | saying that it could stop bad things from happening instead of
       | imagining how things could be better."_
       | 
       | Consumer debt has fallen since the peak in 2007-2009 or so.
       | 
       | https://i0.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/...
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       | Rather spending seems to be driven by the wealthy, upper-middle
       | class, who don't need as much debt to consume and boost the
       | overall economy.
       | 
       |  _Now politics feels like pantomime, with both parties bickering
       | over social issues while neither has the political will to
       | meaningfully affect the economy. Curtis: "Online psychodramas
       | create waves of hysteria that make it feel like the world is
       | transforming. In fact, nothing actually changed in the last four
       | years. Trump made himself a pantomime villain, and we booed
       | rather than imagine an alternative."_
       | 
       | Agree. I think the power of the federal government to affect
       | change peaked in 2001-2008 or so, first with massive buildup
       | homeland security and defense apparatuses following 911, and then
       | in 2008-2009 during the financial crisis . After that the federal
       | government has significantly stopped having influence as far as
       | policy is concerned. Rather, much if its power is through
       | administrative functions, like the FBI , NSA, IRS, SEC, etc.
       | 
       |  _Money became our religion, and now money is starting to run
       | dry, as the world's largest economies slow in their growth. Both
       | democracies and dictatorships are in a moment of crisis._
       | 
       | Money is like a religion, but scant evidence to suggest it's
       | running dry. As stocks and home prices boom since 2020, there is
       | more wealth than ever before.
       | 
       |  _Purchasing power hasn't changed in the past 40 years, according
       | to the Pew Institute: "Today's real average wage (that is, the
       | wage after accounting for inflation) has about the same
       | purchasing power it did 40 years ago. And what wage gains there
       | have been have mostly flowed to the highest-paid tier of
       | workers._
       | 
       | Again, you have to look at the top 10% or so. That is where the
       | purchasing power is coming from...stuff like Disneyland tickets,
       | NFL tickets, lifted trucks, expensive elective cosmetic
       | procedures, home renovations, and so on.
       | 
       |  _All meritocratic platforms are winner-take-all, with the top 1%
       | of performers collecting a vastly disproportionate share of
       | rewards. Look at Substack and Onlyfans. This is not a conspiracy
       | engineered by anyone: when anyone is allowed to compete, a small
       | percentage of people tend to capture most of the profit._
       | 
       | It's been like this for a long time, and recent trends have only
       | accelerated this. The Ivy League is more importent and
       | competitive than ever before; Covid has not changed this at all.
       | Same for top 50 schools overall. Same for high stakes testing,
       | math competitions, top tech & finance jobs, etc...everything more
       | competitive and difficult. More people applying, fewer people
       | getting in. Winners get bigger and bigger, whether it's top
       | Substack content creators or Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon.
       | 
       |  _The American dream, the idea that anybody could make a good
       | living for themselves and their family through nothing but hard
       | work, has become far less realistic. You know the Steinbeck line
       | about how Americans think they're temporarily embarrassed
       | millionaires instead of exploited proletariat. But they don't
       | believe that anymore, do they?_
       | 
       | It's still realistic if you have a high IQ, choose a good career,
       | and have good work ethic...people in tech, consulting, finance,
       | healthcare, law, etc. making record income even after accounting
       | for student loan debt and inflation. (The so-called school to
       | career STEM pipeline.) Reddit 'FIRE' subs are full of such
       | individuals, in their 20-40s, doing just that, with not
       | uncommonly millions of dollars. But for those at the middle/left-
       | side of the IQ distribution, maybe not so much. They tend to rely
       | more so on lottery-like systems of success/promotion compared to
       | more meritocratic ones.
       | https://greyenlightenment.com/2022/03/19/losers-iq-and-the-l...
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       |  _This clearly isn't true, since people obviously aren't free:
       | they're controlled by socioeconomic circumstances._
       | 
       | And also biological constraints, like again, IQ. But I have also
       | read many stories on Hacker News and Reddit of people born in the
       | lower-middle class or worse circumstances rising up due to high
       | intelligence and getting scholarships and landing decent-paying
       | jobs.
       | 
       | Good article...a lot of food for thought.
        
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