[HN Gopher] Being-Doing Balance over Work-Life Balance
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Being-Doing Balance over Work-Life Balance
Author : kiyanwang
Score : 37 points
Date : 2022-08-19 19:43 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| black_puppydog wrote:
| Why the f*k can't i zoom on this page on mobile?! What's the
| benefit of that? :(
| bwestergard wrote:
| The concept of "being mode" laid out here bears a resemblance to
| the Jewish Sabbath ("shabbat" in Hebrew) observance from dusk on
| Friday to dusk on Saturday night.
|
| As I understand it, one tradition of exegesis holds that most of
| the restrictions on activities during the Sabbath can be
| understood as restrictions on acting purposively to modify the
| natural world, engage in commerce, etc. (later rabbinical
| elaboration proscribed even thinking of such activities to
| maintain a restive frame of mind). The paradigm of such work
| activities in the Hebrew bible was the construction of the
| Tabernacle in the wilderness.
|
| https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/shabbats-work-prohi...
| haskell_melody wrote:
| This brings to mind Compass Rose's piece Shabbat Hard or Go
| Home.
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| http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/sabbath-hard-and-go-home/
| reidjs wrote:
| As a Jew, I'm a fan of Shabbat, but it bothers me when some
| Jews take this to absurdity. I read an article about elevators
| in certain buildings running all day without button presses
| because pressing the button is considered labor, or leaving
| their stove on all day to avoid turning the knob. These violate
| the spirit of the law by following the letter of the law.
| CSSer wrote:
| Before I was born, my mother was a nanny. A big part of her
| job for one of the families she worked for was stuff like
| this. If you ask her about it she'll talk about it briefly
| before going on to describe how good the bread was in epic
| detail.
| sokoloff wrote:
| Some of the "workarounds" strike me as "okay, so you just
| don't want to do it; why not just admit that?"
|
| https://www.npr.org/2019/05/13/721551785/a-fishing-line-
| enci...
| WJW wrote:
| Not Jewish myself but married to an Israeli; it was
| explained to me like this:
|
| - There are rules, passed on to humanity from God.
|
| - God is perfect.
|
| - Therefore if you find a loophole in the rules you are
| _not_ outsmarting God or anything like that, God is Perfect
| and cannot be outsmarted by mere mortals.
|
| - Therefore if you find such a loophole, you are not
| committing some form of heresy as most Christians would see
| it. Rather, you are extra virtuous because you found the
| loopholes that God put there as "easter eggs" for those of
| His followers that were attentive and clever enough to spot
| them.
|
| - Repeat this for several millennia and you get the New
| York fishing line shenanigans.
|
| I'm not sure I agree with some of the axioms, but I must
| admit that if you accept the first few points then "New
| York fishing line" follows pretty much linearly from those.
| I also quite like the idea that mortals cannot "outsmart" a
| deity by finding loopholes, because the idea a human could
| outsmart God always seemed like the very height of hubris
| to me. Then again, I am a (drunk) atheist so my opinions
| about gods are probably not too reliable. :)
| [deleted]
| filoleg wrote:
| I know that most people (including me) generally view it as
| silly loopholes, but I recently read a perspective on this
| that sorta makes sense in my head.
|
| Basically, if you believe that god is omnipotent and
| omnipresent, then surely he is aware of those loopholes.
| Which might indicate that he left them in purposefully, so
| that people could use them.
|
| While it seems shaky, it follows certain logic there that
| makes some sense to me as a non-religious person.
| [deleted]
| matrix_overload wrote:
| I would argue that people have a very intrinsic need for the
| "doing" mode (setting goals, spending effort achieving them,
| slowly observing the progress). If we don't get enough of that,
| we start inventing goals. If we don't manage to find/invent
| anything worth spending effort, we get depressed.
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| If you focus on "being" too much, you still end up subconsciously
| setting goals, but those goals would be very tribal and
| emotional: get more people to give you attention or acknowledge
| your feelings, bash those who express opposing views.
|
| I think, what works the best is reserving the "being" to your
| friends and closed circle (that you can pick according to your
| preferences), and devoting work time to a 100% professional-
| driven "doing" mode where you focus on common goals and leave
| everything else outside the office. Sadly, companies don't want
| people to have lives outside of work anymore, so they are trying
| to substitute it for "being" at work, creating division out of
| the blue, and making the work culture toxic.
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