[HN Gopher] I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E
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       I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E
        
       Author : lucytalksdata
       Score  : 141 points
       Date   : 2022-08-20 18:06 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | NonNefarious wrote:
       | Went to use my invite, and OpenAI demands your PHONE NUMBER.
       | 
       | No excuse for it. Screw that.
        
       | randymy wrote:
       | Worth noting that DALL-E automatically "rejects attempts to
       | create the likeness of any public figures, including
       | celebrities". So, you wouldn't be able to get an image that
       | included the 4 Liverpudlians. It does allow you to create fake
       | faces. Might be fun to try and recreate Miles Davis Tutu, Aladdin
       | Sane, Piano Man.
        
         | cameronh90 wrote:
         | My experience was that if you name a celebrity (and the request
         | isn't blocked) it quite often generated something that has the
         | same general vibe of the target, while also looking entirely
         | unlike them.
         | 
         | It reminds me of how TV shows often have a president that
         | resembles the current president in superficial ways, while
         | being distinct enough that they won't get sued.
         | 
         | I'd be interested to know why this happens.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | CamperBob2 wrote:
         | It will yell at you and threaten your account with termination
         | if you try to create anything based on a living person's face,
         | from what I can tell.
        
       | phonescreen_man wrote:
       | Interestingly related, I just used AI image generation to create
       | my EP cover.. first I tried running luciddrains dall e 2 PyTorch
       | implementation using the prompt "death by Tetris EP album cover
       | 2022" unfortunately I am using a Mac Pro so the gpu was not able
       | to work. Then I tried imagen PyTorch implementation and used same
       | keyword. This time it was working with the CPU unfortunately 2
       | days in we had a power outage so I had something but nothing
       | complete. So I fed the generated image into the google dream
       | generator and got my album cover!
       | 
       | https://willsimpson.hearnow.com/
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | pjgalbraith wrote:
       | I've been recreating the 50 worst heavy metal album art using AI
       | as well, currently at 30. Recently I've found Stable Diffusion
       | plus DALL-E inpainting to be a good combination.
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/P_Galbraith/status/1560469019605344256
        
       | wodenokoto wrote:
       | I'd love to see what it had come up with if simply prompted for
       | "Album cover for Nevermind by Nirvana"
        
       | google234123 wrote:
       | Is the issue with faces a deliberate choice by the devs?
        
       | nprateem wrote:
       | An upvote for whoever can give me a prompt to generate an image
       | of someone who's been massaged so much their body has been
       | flattened, as if they were made of dough or jelly or something.
       | 
       | I spent ages on this earlier getting nowhere. I'm starting to
       | think DALL-E is better if you don't really know what you want and
       | you're just fishing for ideas.
        
         | _the_special_ wrote:
         | > an image of someone who's been massaged so much their body
         | has been flattened, as if they were made of dough or jelly
         | 
         | do you want a realistic looking one? 3d rendered? what do you
         | have in mind exactly?
        
           | nprateem wrote:
           | Anything really. I tried cartoons, digital art, watercolours,
           | pixar style. None worked.
        
           | birdyrooster wrote:
           | also what is the PCs budget?
        
         | fzfaa wrote:
         | I didn't know that I needed this.
        
         | doerinrw wrote:
         | Ok you owe me $3! This is a really hard prompt, and only got
         | close-ish with inpainting. Got the base figure with "massaged
         | relaxed flattened person, flat, flat, flat, flat, claymation",
         | then finally got it to add a not-too-terrifying face with
         | "photograph of smiling white woman laying on the ground,
         | promotional photography". Final tweaks to erase some artifacts
         | (it really didn't want to believe the figure on the left was
         | the referenced woman) was "photograph of a wooden floor with a
         | white mat and small plants, overhead shot".
         | 
         | DALLE is hard! Curious to see if I can be beat.
         | 
         | https://imgur.com/a/tuyGjxp
        
           | nprateem wrote:
           | Ha ha that's much closer than I got, well done! Yeah it's
           | difficult. I didn't think of flat, flat, flat.
        
       | teddyh wrote:
       | > _The question is, when the music blows up and the artwork
       | becomes a signature, like the Rolling Stones ' Tongue & Lips, who
       | will own the copyright?_
       | 
       | That's what trademarks are for.
        
         | sieabah wrote:
         | If they had bothered to read the license agreement they would
         | know whoever generates the art owns the copyright. Since it's a
         | pay-for action the copyright is owned by the payee.
         | 
         | So really they generated these and never bothered to do the
         | research of their own question.
        
           | teddyh wrote:
           | I have, like the article author presumably also does, a
           | profund doubt as to whether generated works of this kind can
           | be free of any copyright as long as the tool used is itself
           | created using myriads of copyrighted works (as training
           | data). I certainly do not trust the claims of the tool
           | creators; they have all the incentive to ignore any copyright
           | problems in order to get a tool which is usable.
           | 
           | And, as the article states:
           | 
           | > _But seriously, how creative and original can you be with
           | something that is trained on the works of millions of other
           | creators?_
           | 
           | > _To me, it is unclear whether you can actually call these
           | works your 'own' at all, because there's always someone
           | else's touch on it._
           | 
           | > [...] _users of DALL-E will also never be sure whether they
           | are generating something that is 'theirs' or just a knockoff
           | of someone else's work._
        
           | hedora wrote:
           | OK, so I give you license to use this URL I just generated to
           | generate your own stuff.
           | 
           | It's pay for action (send me a penny if you find anything
           | worthwhile), and the copyright is owned by the payee:
           | 
           | https://images.google.com/
        
             | meowkit wrote:
             | The URL has not been "generated" in the same sense. You are
             | retrieving an existing string. The images from google are
             | not "generated" in the same sense, they are indexed from
             | google's search algorithm.
             | 
             | The generative models, specifically for DALLE here, compute
             | pixel unique images. You might say these models index a
             | subset of an extremely high dimensional space (pixel count
             | * RGB color values) using a query. Traditional search
             | engines build an index from nothing and then use a search
             | query to find the best matches in a more discrete space.
        
               | teddyh wrote:
               | If I made a website where you could type text and get
               | images, and I said that your held the copyright to any
               | images you got, could you safely act on that assumption?
               | What if my web site was simply a proxy for Google image
               | search?
        
       | system2 wrote:
       | DALL-E still seems very useless. Reminds me of the hype of
       | Cardano.
        
       | andreyk wrote:
       | I wonder how long the novelty of DALL-E will persist. HN seems to
       | upvote anything titled "I did X with DALL-E". This is a fun post,
       | but it's not that interesting or surprising. Still worth a look
       | don't get me wrong, but personally didn't learn anything new from
       | it. (eg recreating the famous pink Floyd cover with "Outline of
       | prism on a black background in the middle of scene splits a beam
       | of light coming from the left side into rainbow on the right
       | side" unsurprisingly worked somewhat well).
        
         | felipelalli wrote:
         | I love this kind of bad humor of HN.
        
         | tsimionescu wrote:
         | To me the most interesting thing about the article was actually
         | just how bad the results are. It's interesting that you picked
         | the Dark side of the moon one, as to me that seemed by far the
         | worse one - none of the pictures really resembled the simple
         | geometry of the original. While I understand why recreating the
         | Nevermind cover was difficult, it was surprising that
         | recreating such a simple geometric pattern failed so
         | spectacularly.
         | 
         | The only cover that really worked from my point of view was the
         | Velvet Underground one, and perhaps the Rolling Stones one.
         | Abbey Road came closer than what I thought it would, but was
         | pretty bad ultimately, and the other three really had nothing
         | usable.
        
         | hombre_fatal wrote:
         | It will probably get boring the same time HNers stop confusing
         | "hmm this isn't that interesting guys" as notable commentary
         | that needs to be shared.
        
           | Apocryphon wrote:
           | DALL-E generate us some pics of unhappy HN curmudgeons
        
             | paulcole wrote:
             | Here ya go:
             | 
             | https://imgur.com/a/kgQtUMf
             | 
             | I don't know why it's got the over-18 warning. It's 100%
             | SFW.
        
             | turtleyacht wrote:
             | > _A grizzled veteran of the corporate wars: expert
             | troubleshooter, code tracer, shell flinger, toolsmith and
             | pied piper. Cheerful amid chaos, the cavalry to on-call,
             | the invited to skunkworks, tiger teams, red teams._
             | 
             | https://labs.openai.com/s/AkfefTCg9CnFTh6Dh42pRbw5
             | 
             | https://labs.openai.com/s/l6Cy8PA1zDdvKdVdKs47AdLO
        
             | turtleyacht wrote:
             | > _Grizzled veteran of the corporate wars, endlessly
             | optimistic yet hardened by dint of spectacular,
             | catastrophic system failures; a tinkerer; a hacker; an
             | astute observer; always prone to imagining the highest
             | heights and the most profound lows; blunted against tact;
             | sharpened by scouring experience; unforgiving, yet ever
             | willing to advise; rightfully paranoid; forced to
             | specialize; a stubborn craf_
             | 
             | https://labs.openai.com/s/6oZ1RkvfDccpMpqBWK6HzOPo
        
           | andreyk wrote:
           | Well then it will never get boring, will it... Fair enough,
           | it's just been striking to see how many of these sort of
           | posts have been popping up. Like I said, it's still fun and
           | worth a look.
           | 
           | Perhaps as a blogger I am extra salty when relatively low
           | effort stuff gets upvoted over things that take a lot of work
           | to write (in some cases, those being things I have written).
           | But hey, that's life.
        
             | paulcole wrote:
             | Low effort stuff can (and often is) better and/or more
             | entertaining than high effort stuff.
        
               | andreyk wrote:
               | Can't argue with that!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | DubiousPusher wrote:
         | I actually thought there were some interesting things revealed
         | here. Particularly interesting to me were the Nevermind and
         | Abbey Road results.
         | 
         | Nevermind because it showed this weakness in the model in
         | understanding what a dollar bill is. The most novel result
         | being the image where the baby's visage appears inside the
         | dollar.
         | 
         | Regarding Abbey Road, I found it interesting that the model's
         | concept of a public person spans their lifetime evidenced by
         | the images where the contemporary images are used. Also
         | interesting to me is the model's weakness in understanding
         | specific people.
         | 
         | Then again though, I haven't been clicking on every DALL-E post
         | so maybe this is old news.
        
           | fifilura wrote:
           | For me, what was interesting to see was that it didn't manage
           | very well with the Abbey Road question.
           | 
           | I had imagined that some parts of the training data would
           | consist of the actual image, and it would find a good match
           | for it somewhere deep into it's artificial consciousness.
        
             | TheOtherHobbes wrote:
             | It has no concept of The Beatles or Abbey Road or zebra
             | crossings or perspective or creative composition in
             | photography, so effectively it just mashes up some results
             | from an image search.
             | 
             | If it created something very close to the original it would
             | be overfitting. So it flails around rather randomly in
             | photos-of-Beatles+Zebra+Abbey Road space. The results are
             | novel, but they're also monstrous, distorted, and
             | unartistic.
        
               | robocat wrote:
               | > unartistic
               | 
               | Says who? Maybe you don't like the style, maybe it is
               | derivative, but it is definitely artistic, as you allude
               | to by saying it is novel. Monstrous and distorted can be
               | a style.
               | 
               | "mathematical art, 1924, litography, abstract generative
               | art" generates
               | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanUkREXEAEH6su.jpg -- Can
               | you pick the influences? I can't.
               | 
               | "low poly game asset, Cthulhu monster, 2000 video game,
               | isometric view" generates
               | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanTf3IXgAETece.jpg
               | 
               | I thought https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanNq6sXkAENyU5.jpg
               | was really interesting, because the LEGO logo is not a
               | 100% faithful reproduction even though the LEGO logo is
               | so ubiquitous - showing that the images are generated.
               | 
               | From a longer tweet thread by @fabianstelzer comparing
               | DALL-E 2 vs Midjourney vs StableDiffusion: https://thread
               | readerapp.com/thread/1561019187451011074.html
        
         | zone411 wrote:
         | "DALL-E" in titles is about to be replaced with "Stable
         | Diffusion." The beta website is already live but the
         | interesting part will be specialized fine-tuned models based on
         | public weights. There should be more technical experimentation
         | since Stable Diffusion weights are only a few GBs and inference
         | can be run on any recent GPU. There might also be more
         | controversies because it can create more uncensored images.
         | 
         | Somebody posted a nice comparison between DALL-E 2, Mid
         | Journey, and Stable Diffusion:
         | https://twitter.com/fabianstelzer/status/1561019187451011074.
        
           | CamperBob2 wrote:
           | I dunno, I don't see a lot of examples on that page where
           | Stable Diffusion outperformed DALL-E 2.
        
           | [deleted]
        
         | rjtavares wrote:
         | Just like images after text, pretty sure once the novelty of
         | images ends we'll move to animations, music, movies, computer
         | games, and so on.
        
           | Apocryphon wrote:
           | For the past few years, I've long considered Hollywood failed
           | adaptations to be a non-issue because so long as industrial
           | civilization exists, media companies are going to squeeze
           | what they can out of IPs. So while _Game of Thrones_ might
           | have ended quite poorly, I figure we're only a few decades
           | away from a different rights-holder giving it another go.
           | 
           | Thus, I look forward to the AI-generated versions of famous
           | works that deepfake the original cast into speaking
           | (hopefully) better-written dialogue. Imagine when this
           | technology is widespread, fanfic authors rendering their
           | interpretation of works with the descendants of DALL-E.
           | Everyone gets the dream adaptations and sequels and finales
           | they want.
        
             | voltaireodactyl wrote:
             | The trouble with this, for me, is that wouldn't such a
             | world necessarily mean the end of new actors (not to
             | mention new worlds and stories)? After all, why hire
             | unknowns when you can stack the cast with the A-listers of
             | all time?
             | 
             | And if everyone stacks the cast thusly, there are no
             | opportunities for new actors to work with old and be
             | mentored + opportunity to simply works since every bit of
             | work is what adds up to make a journeyperson.
        
               | notahacker wrote:
               | Unless copyright changes a _lot_ , the A-listers are
               | going to expect a lot of money for a film with their name
               | on the poster and their carefully curated likeness
               | throughout, whether they have to turn up to shoot it or
               | not.
        
               | voltaireodactyl wrote:
               | Totally, but their estates won't be as precious (as we're
               | seeing with holograms already). And once a certain
               | critical mass is built up, it's built up -- and it's be
               | foolish not to use it.
        
               | Apocryphon wrote:
               | Still gotta populate the training data
        
               | voltaireodactyl wrote:
               | I get that, but I find it hard to see why one would look
               | for NEW training data from actors who will never have the
               | opportunity to become as seasoned as their forebears,
               | when you have 100+ years of filmed historical data (among
               | other formats) from which to pull your players?
        
         | xor99 wrote:
         | Generative art and by extension DALL-E has a very fast
         | attention decay imo. We can't avoid noticing patterns and
         | getting bored by them. This makes art and music fun because the
         | things that stick and stay interesting JUST DO for some unknown
         | reason.
        
       | w0mbat wrote:
       | How do you know that the album covers are not part of the corpus
       | of images that DALL-E was trained on in the first place?
        
       | machinekob wrote:
       | Is i do smth with DALL-E auto top hacker news post i saw like 20
       | post like that in past 2 weeks.
        
       | tsimionescu wrote:
       | It's interesting that the prompts that would do badly in a Google
       | image search also seem to be the ones that make poor prompts.
       | Basically, it seems that rather than describing a scene, you have
       | to try to give an analogy for some image(s) that it might have in
       | its training set - which is why, I believe, "banana in the style
       | of Andy Warhol" produces a much higher quality result than
       | "Outline of prism on a black background in the middle of scene
       | splits a beam of light coming from the left side into rainbow on
       | the right side".
        
         | alisonkisk wrote:
        
       | Michelangelo11 wrote:
       | Man, after seeing Stable Diffusion's output, DALL-E's looks just
       | janky. Like watching a propeller plane after seeing a jet.
       | 
       | Crazy how fast the tech is moving.
        
         | twostorytower wrote:
         | DALL-E is capable of very high quality photorealistic images
         | with the right prompts.
         | 
         | Here's one I made: https://imgur.com/yAzKkHb
         | 
         | "High detail, macro portrait photo, a handsome Australian man
         | with a strong jaw line, blue eyes and brown hair, smiles at the
         | camera, set in an outdoor pub at golden hour, shot using a
         | ZEISS Supreme Prime lens"
        
       | xwdv wrote:
       | Although AI artists will destroy a lot of jobs, it will also
       | create demand for new jobs for people who specialize in "paint
       | overs" - taking a high concept output created by AI artists and
       | touching it up to perfection.
       | 
       | Or perhaps even beyond just a paint over, and into the realm of
       | recreating an entire AI artwork but with a human touch to get
       | details just right.
       | 
       | Looking forward to it.
        
         | avian wrote:
         | > taking a high concept output created by AI artists and
         | touching it up to perfection.
         | 
         | When you put it like that, it sounds like a nightmare up side
         | down world. It's not AI that's the tool for enhancing human
         | creativity. It's humans that are the AI's tool, cleaning up the
         | edge cases the AI artist can't handle (yet). It destroys
         | creative jobs that give joy to people and creates assembly line
         | jobs for them to slog in.
        
           | krapp wrote:
           | The purpose of jobs has never been to give people joy, but to
           | extract value from their labor as quickly and efficiently as
           | possible. Getting any kind of emotional satisfaction from
           | one's work is a privilege which arguably points to an
           | inefficiency in the market, as that energy is wasted which
           | could better be put to productivity.
           | 
           | Artists, programmers and everyone else will have to find
           | their joy somewhere other than than selling themselves to a
           | corporation, once AI driven markets optimize away any room
           | for "joy" and the like, and that's going to be one of the few
           | good things about automation. The sooner we break people from
           | the Puritan delusion that work defines a person's meaning and
           | the value of their expression, the sooner we can once again
           | decouple culture from the machinery of capitalism.
        
           | notahacker wrote:
           | The humans are also the people that come up with the concept
           | in the first place...
           | 
           | Also sounds like an upside down use of the tool, since AI
           | generated art really isn't that great at composition once
           | you've got over the magic of it being able to respond to the
           | prompt at all (but is much better at texture and filling in
           | boring details), and the current state of the art AI tools
           | can produce images which conform to a human guideline
           | sketch...
        
           | 8note wrote:
           | The AI is enabling the creativity of laypeople. That's still
           | an enhancement, even if they don't have the technique to make
           | a polished product
        
         | vanadium1st wrote:
         | I am already doing exactly that, and am getting paid for it.
         | 
         | I am a logo artist and I sell pre-made logo designs. Before the
         | current AI services I had to come up with visual ideas by
         | myself, like a caveman. Now I use the AI to generate a bunch of
         | sketches and blurry ideas, and then use my graphic design
         | experience to polish them up to a usable level. Here's how it
         | looks. https://imgur.com/a/DKTsKdC
         | 
         | I am absolutely sure that a lot of people are doing the same
         | right now, just keeping quiet about it.
        
           | xorcist wrote:
           | Thank you for that perspective. The linked work is clearly
           | the work of a skilled professional.
           | 
           | I am intrigued by the use of AI as a form of creativity
           | assist. As someone without any talent for this, the left
           | pictures are useless for me, as I don't know how to take them
           | into something like the pictures on the right. The point of a
           | sketch is to show them to a customer, but if you would show
           | these sketches to me, I wouldn't know which one would turn
           | out great and which one wouldn't.
           | 
           | Given that, do you feel that the generated sketches are
           | useful as a base sketch? I mean, you could probably have used
           | any of the existing NFL teams logos and as inspiration,
           | instead of letting the software remix them for you.
        
         | avian wrote:
         | Here's another spin on this:
         | 
         | Imagine you're a software developer. In the near future, your
         | manager wants a feature implemented in your company's app. He
         | throws together a short mail with requirements and sends it to
         | the prompt engineering department.
         | 
         | The prompt engineers fix a few typos, clean up the grammar and
         | pepper a few secret sauce keywords around like "in the style of
         | firefox", "in the style of kde". This get thrown into Microsoft
         | Copilot 3.0 that barfs out a bunch of code.
         | 
         | Copilot's code has inconsistent indentation, three different
         | method naming conventions and some variables named in a foreign
         | language. It runs, but crashes if you tap on the lower left
         | corner of the screen and allows you to drag the order quantity
         | below 0. But that's ok, it's why we employ software engineers
         | like you in our company. You will use your years of coding
         | experience to touch up AI code to perfection. Better get the
         | details just right until Monday all-hands!
         | 
         | Still looking forward to it?
        
           | xwdv wrote:
           | sounds to me like I still get paid handsomely
        
         | teddyh wrote:
         | The new copyright washing industry is nearly upon us.
        
         | egypturnash wrote:
         | As a professional artist, this sounds like hell.
        
       | sgt101 wrote:
       | Look, it's trained on these images.
       | 
       | It's really great and cool and all - but it's retrieving things
       | that it was trained on.
       | 
       | Show me something original it did.
        
         | Engineering-MD wrote:
         | It's hard when it was trained on everything pretty much. That's
         | the same problem as with GPT3. In my mind it's still brute
         | forcing a solution but instead of endless computation it's
         | endless examples
        
           | kgeist wrote:
           | Is this "bruteforcing" really different from what our brains
           | do? We see thousands, millions of little things (examples)
           | every day. Then we combine what we've seen into something
           | new. Probably the only difference is that DALLE's training
           | was done once while our brains are trained every day for 80+
           | years.
        
         | l33tman wrote:
         | None of the AI generators retrieve things they were trained on,
         | they don't work that way. Everything is original. However our
         | definition of "original" might vary a bit, but so it will vary
         | for any work of art any human artist do as well, as they are
         | also trained on the same images. In the end, a lawsuit and a
         | courtroom might have to decide if by chance someone or some AI
         | creates a picture used commercially that seems similar to
         | someone else's trademark or copyright.
         | 
         | Most of the images I've generated using Dalle 2 feels
         | completely original. Just have a look at the reddit r/dalle2
         | and I'm pretty sure you'll also decide they're "original
         | works".
        
       | dsign wrote:
       | It's going to leave all those artists without a job, you just
       | wait!!
        
       | cowmix wrote:
       | After getting access to the beta, combined with all these HN
       | posts -- I've determined DallE2 is neat but no where as great as
       | the initial samples made me believe.
        
         | twostorytower wrote:
         | It is actually incredibly capable but if you're looking for
         | photorealistic images of people, it needs very specific
         | directions. I learned a lot from this person creating AI
         | portrait photography:
         | https://old.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/wsi97q/some_of_my_p...
        
       | yummybear wrote:
       | I love seeing people experiment with this technology. You can
       | feel we're on the cusp of something great - whatever it is, we're
       | just not quite there yet.
        
       | soneca wrote:
       | Have anyone given a prompt to Dall-e of designing a company
       | website and included "make it pop!"?
       | 
       | Maybe the AI will finally get what designers always complained
       | about annoying clients.
        
         | doerinrw wrote:
         | This isn't really how DALLE works AFAIK but a very fun idea
         | nonetheless. Here's a quick more simplified experiment than the
         | great work above: "website design mockup.", with and without
         | "Make it pop!"
         | 
         | https://imgur.com/a/fy2Uq4x
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | Prompt:
         | 
         | > Create a website design for a company that sells propane and
         | propane accessories. The name of the company is Strickland
         | Propane, a local propane dealership. Make it pop.
         | 
         | Results:
         | 
         | * https://i.imgur.com/Jv7NJEN.png
         | 
         | * https://i.imgur.com/5Uiyg1R.png
         | 
         | * https://i.imgur.com/LL1DC11.png
         | 
         | * https://i.imgur.com/buv5BvS.png
         | 
         | So there you have it :p
        
           | twic wrote:
           | STONIA PRONGAND! I would not buy a propane container which
           | looked like that.
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | Another one.
           | 
           | Prompt:
           | 
           | > Create a website design for ACME Corporation, a company
           | which produces a wide array of products that are dangerous,
           | unreliable or preposterous. Include customer quotes from a
           | dissatisfied Wile E. Coyote prominently on the page. Make it
           | pop.
           | 
           | Results:
           | 
           | * https://i.imgur.com/WK3QBj9.png
           | 
           | * https://i.imgur.com/Bghgzjt.png
           | 
           | * https://i.imgur.com/XLyYx76.png
           | 
           | * https://i.imgur.com/QTSyFTc.png
        
             | codetrotter wrote:
             | More still.
             | 
             | Prompt:
             | 
             | > A website design concept for Apple Inc, in Neumorphism
             | design style, showcasing the next generation iPhone Pro
             | Max. Make it pop.
             | 
             | Results:
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/lU4Mf0X.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/ROMJEjT.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/U4sDheM.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/3bRXCs1.png
             | 
             | Tbh this is probably the worst one yet.. By that I mean,
             | the results for this prompt are the least reflective of the
             | text in the prompt. Sure it got the iPhones, but it doesn't
             | really feel like a website design, and it doesn't feel like
             | Neumorphism design style.
        
             | codetrotter wrote:
             | More.
             | 
             | Prompt:
             | 
             | > Website design for Weyland-Yutani Corporation. The
             | Company was founded in 2099 by the merger of Weyland Corp
             | and Yutani Corporation. Weyland-Yutani is primarily a
             | technology supplier, manufacturing synthetics, starships
             | and computers for a wide range of industrial and commercial
             | clients, making them a household name. The website design
             | for The Company is mobile first. Make it pop.
             | 
             | Results:
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/JyhYK5b.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/J5aPXCH.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/ksqrW09.png
             | 
             | * https://i.imgur.com/uXBcGa5.png
        
               | soneca wrote:
               | Thanks a lot!
               | 
               | Hopefully I am not asking too much, but can you run the
               | same prompts _without_ the "make it pop"? So we can learn
               | what is "pop"
        
               | codetrotter wrote:
               | Dall-E 2 will give varying results even for the same
               | prompt. If we want to learn what is "pop" we would have
               | to ask it very many times.
               | 
               | But I will give it a try.
               | 
               | First I do three more runs where I give it the same
               | prompt that I gave it initially;
               | 
               | > Create a website design for a company that sells
               | propane and propane accessories. The name of the company
               | is Strickland Propane, a local propane dealership. Make
               | it pop.
               | 
               | Results.
               | 
               | Run 1:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/qqOJHXj.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/fao6NMs.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/yH2Lned.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/SiH3hmU.png
               | 
               | Run 2:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/1rppjpR.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/6KiITZn.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/uQTei8M.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/ITacN1P.png
               | 
               | Run 3:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/KAm6Bc9.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/LBBdotk.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/ZPD32oV.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/UkdSiZM.png
               | 
               | And then I do three runs where I give it same prompt, but
               | this time _without_ "make it pop";
               | 
               | > Create a website design for a company that sells
               | propane and propane accessories. The name of the company
               | is Strickland Propane, a local propane dealership.
               | 
               | Results.
               | 
               | Run 1:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/MYIGCcu.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/Iw9JjVf.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/aRaD4ew.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/B7lOV3u.png
               | 
               | Run 2:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/9J2T4Mq.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/058wHEH.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/KVdhYVL.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/sT2U3DM.png
               | 
               | Run 3:
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/ub1EpvY.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/6TkAI1U.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/XnWGaUm.png
               | 
               | * https://i.imgur.com/IL03niN.png
               | 
               | Tbh I don't think we can draw much of a conclusion from
               | this..
        
               | soneca wrote:
               | I agree, Dall-e doesn't seem to understand what "pop" is
               | either. Thanks for the effort in indulging me, though! I
               | appreciate!
        
       | bryanrasmussen wrote:
       | No Smell the Glove cover, this is a black day for rock and roll!
        
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       | powersnail wrote:
       | DALL-E is still highly probabilistic in its judgement. For
       | instance, in this article, it keeps putting "fire" in the the
       | background on something that is likely to be on fire, rather than
       | lighting up the person.
       | 
       | I have a similar experience. In my own experiment, I can't get
       | DALL-E to turn off the street lamp at a bus stop in the darkness.
       | I've tried "no light", "broken street lamp", etc.; no use. Any
       | mention of "street lamp", the scene will include a working street
       | lamp.
       | 
       | It's just more probable that a scene with a lamp in the darkness
       | must have that lamp providing light, and this is something that
       | DALL-E will not break out of.
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | The person is on fire. On top of the fire in the image.
        
         | babyshake wrote:
         | I think DALL-E might be programmed to not depict violence,
         | which is why it doesn't "like" rendering humans on fire.
        
         | Applejinx wrote:
         | Clearly it will have trouble making Rene Magritte paintings
         | along those lines, too :)
        
         | whirlwin wrote:
         | I have experienced violent or harmful settings to be avoided by
         | DALL-E. E.g. setting a person on fire. Same with drowning -
         | seems to be impossible/hard to generate
        
           | zaik wrote:
           | Violent images likely have not been part of the training data
           | for obvious reasons.
        
           | seesaw wrote:
           | I gave a prompt about a kid reading the Harry Potter book in
           | the bed. It generated a kid wearing Harry Potter glasses
           | reading a book. Pretty close, but also quite different from
           | what I meant.
        
         | MuffinFlavored wrote:
         | Is this "confirmed fixeD"/different in DALL-E 2?
        
         | BrutalCoding wrote:
         | Hmm, I haven't tried DALL-E yet but Midjourney mentions that
         | negative prompting dont tend to work well. See here:
         | https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/resource-links/guide-to-p...
         | 
         | They got a solution for that, which is using their --no
         | argument. https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/imagine-
         | parameters#prompt...
         | 
         | I haven't checked if DALL-E has that option too.
         | 
         | Otherwise, you could try other variations like:
         | 
         | street light, light pole, lamp pole, lamppost, street lamp,
         | light standard, or lamp standard
         | 
         | I copied that from Wikipedia :)
         | 
         | Best of luck!
        
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