[HN Gopher] A republished fork of the banned on sanction order T...
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       A republished fork of the banned on sanction order Tornado Cash
       repositories
        
       Author : Andrew_nenakhov
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2022-08-22 22:19 UTC (40 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (twitter.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (twitter.com)
        
       | rvz wrote:
       | What is the point of republishing it on Github? They (GitHub /
       | Microsoft) will just remove it and ban it again after announcing
       | it.
       | 
       | A better way instead, would be to do what all other projects like
       | GNOME, KDE, Tor, wireguard, etc have done before and that is to
       | just self-host the repositories instead.
        
         | ChrisAntaki wrote:
         | Hopefully the government can identify any forks that achieve
         | meaningful TVL and taint the coins
        
           | ipaddr wrote:
           | What would that for you? Why the hope?
        
         | coolspot wrote:
         | US govt has banned Tornado Cash the organization, not code of
         | Tornado Cash.
         | 
         | Github complies to sanctions by removing all repositories owned
         | by sanctioned organization. Doesn't mean you can't have a copy
         | of their code.
        
           | ChrisAntaki wrote:
           | That's good to hear, because the code itself should be
           | considered free speech
        
             | toomuchtodo wrote:
             | Platforms have the right as is to deplatform undesirable
             | speech, including code. Social media platforms do this
             | daily (speech, not code).
             | 
             | Freedom of speech protects you from your government.
        
         | cmroanirgo wrote:
         | The author explains why it's on GH.
         | 
         | > _I've worked with this code as a researcher and I use it to
         | teach my classes, so it's important to me that it stays easily-
         | accessible on a major site like GitHub. (This is not the only
         | copy, in fact it's a fork of someone else's.)_
        
         | seestem wrote:
         | I think this is about proving a point. The point being "code is
         | free speech" and to not let GitHub / Microsoft slide and set a
         | precedent that takes us back 30 years.
        
       | ChrisAntaki wrote:
       | Tornado needs TVL to effectively launder money for criminals.
       | Forks without much TVL don't seem that dangerous
        
         | babyshake wrote:
         | I wonder if it is possible to have a variation of Tornado where
         | the TVL automatically moves to a new deployment at a new random
         | address every N blocks, so that it's not as simple to have
         | specific addresses sanctioned. I don't know Tornado very well
         | and don't know if this would be possible.
        
         | Retr0id wrote:
         | TVL is not a property of the source code.
        
         | charcircuit wrote:
         | This is a fork of the code. It's not a new deployment.
        
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