[HN Gopher] The MKULTRA Evolutions
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The MKULTRA Evolutions
Author : LiminalFrame
Score : 58 points
Date : 2022-08-27 21:21 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| 0x_rs wrote:
| MKULTRA and all US-based human experimentation and study projects
| done both on their own citizen and foreigners from other
| (complicit) countries are quite a trip to read through. One would
| assume the government pouring so much money and man-effort into
| these researches would make ruthless individuals feel more
| justified in committing their overlooked, state-mandated crimes.
| Of course, being a sensitive, secretive and very speculative
| subject it's important not to take everything at face value, as
| there's an abundance of theories and the emotional impact can
| make one overlook logic. There's really a lot of interesting
| ones. Familiar with a certain Kaczynski?
|
| https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard...
| verisimi wrote:
| Awful stuff. Shocking to those who think the government is there
| to help.
|
| I guess it's great news that the government tells us that they
| stopped mkultra, and didn't continue their attempts at mind
| controlling the population. Phew.
| avgcorrection wrote:
| Awful stuff. Super-helpful for my ideological pet-peeve,
| though, so I'm glad that I got an excuse to bring that up.
| qwertyuiop_ wrote:
| Look no further than the Orwell Ministry of Truth https://en.
| wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-... and the
| current administrations attempt at establishing one
| https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-department-of-
| home...
| [deleted]
| booleandilemma wrote:
| Yeah so happy all of that weird manipulation stuff is over.
|
| My pronouns are in my bio btw.
| tommyrpeterson wrote:
| Lol
|
| To be more explicit I'm not sure why nobody ever mentions the
| MASSIVE popularity of mk ultra inspired hypnosis porn pushing
| self feminization. There's a ton of it on every porn
| platform.
|
| And it originated on 4 chan, decades ago. Which felt at the
| time like a psy op. Fits the pattern of destabilisation
| methods used by the Russians and Chinese.
| bckr wrote:
| Citation needed
| nickdothutton wrote:
| For those interested in the rabbit hole, you could do worse than
| start with the work of D.E.Cameron.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron
| dundarious wrote:
| I recommend Errol Morris' docudrama involving MKULTRA,
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_(miniseries).
|
| It goes into some speculation tying events to the Korean war.
| ttctciyf wrote:
| The linked article seems to want us to believe that concern about
| global warming is part of a CIA mind control plot. I would skip
| it.
|
| No doubt considerable effort has been spent muddying waters, and
| it's not an easy topic to research, but it might be better to
| take a look at John Marks' seminal work based on documents
| obtained under FOIA, _The Search for the Manchurian Candidate -
| The CIA and Mind Control_ , available for free at
| https://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks.htm
| AdamH12113 wrote:
| This article seems to imply that the 1960s counterculture
| movement was astroturfed by the CIA, which is... certainly an
| opinion. The historical parts were interesting, but the unhinged
| conclusions make me doubt whether what I'm reading is accurate.
| saint_yossarian wrote:
| > This article seems to imply that the 1960s counterculture
| movement was astroturfed by the CIA, which is... certainly an
| opinion.
|
| But... that actually happened? See e.g.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom
|
| Nevermind COINTELPRO where they literally infiltrated
| counterculture movements, although that was the FBI.
| AdamH12113 wrote:
| By "astroturfed" I mean that the U.S. counterculture movement
| was a creation of the CIA (or perhaps a byproduct of MKULTRA
| research; the article is unclear). The CIA did fund anti-
| communist front organizations and COINTELPRO was real.
| saint_yossarian wrote:
| Ah gotcha, I usually understand "astroturfing" to mean
| piggy-backing on already existing platforms.
| walterbell wrote:
| https://vinylwriters.com/weird-scenes-inside-the-canyon-laur...
|
| _> The following text is the first chapter of David McGowan's
| astonishing book "Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon' The very
| strange, but nevertheless true story of the dark underbelly of a
| 1960s hippie utopia, in which Laurel Canyon's colorful characters
| - rock stars, hippies, murderers and politicos - happily
| coexisted alongside a covert military installation._
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