[HN Gopher] On Tea and the Art of Doing Nothing
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       On Tea and the Art of Doing Nothing
        
       Author : vitabenes
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2022-08-28 14:17 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | ketanmaheshwari wrote:
       | The author surely means taking occasional breaks that involve
       | just tea and doing nothing else. Otherwise how does one earn a
       | living and support their dependents while doing nothing as much
       | as they love it?
        
       | balentio wrote:
       | There are whole parties just for tea...
        
       | throwaway1777 wrote:
       | Truly a strange article, like the author has never tried
       | breakfast tea which has almost as much caffeine as coffee and
       | will definitely keep you awake...
        
         | neaden wrote:
         | To nitpick breakfast tea isn't a type of tea. There is English
         | Breakfast Tea which is a specific blend of black tea and
         | spices. Black tea usually have 50 mg of caffeine per cup,
         | roughly half what coffee has. Oolong, Green, and White tea all
         | have even less. Yerba Mate has more caffeine but that is a
         | different plant than true tea.
        
         | n4r9 wrote:
         | In my experience it keeps you awake but it doesn't give the
         | same kind of productive buzz that coffee does. I think this is
         | to do with not just the caffeine but the general combination of
         | other chemicals, such as l-theanine.
        
           | QuercusMax wrote:
           | I recently had to drive 5 hours on very little sleep, and I
           | only had tea available. I had to stop at a gas station to get
           | coffee because the tea wasn't cutting it, even at triple
           | strength.
           | 
           | T will stop me from being able to fall asleep, but it does
           | not keep me alert in the same way that coffee does.
        
         | coldtea wrote:
         | His point wasn't as much about the caffeine content, as about
         | the culture.
         | 
         | Besides, breakfast tea doesn't have anywhere near "almost as
         | much" caffeine as coffee. At best 45-50mg on average. Coffee
         | starts 20-30 mg above that and the sky is the limit with a
         | large latte or cold brew.
        
         | zwieback wrote:
         | Came here to say that - I just checked, my preferred breakfast
         | tea (Brooke Bond Red Label) has 60 vs. coffee 95 so definitely
         | in the ball park. I always thought it was like a quarter of
         | coffee.
        
           | coldtea wrote:
           | > _60 vs. coffee 95 so definitely in the ball park_
           | 
           | It's only "in the ballpark" if you used to think it was a
           | quarter. Otherwise, it's a whooping 60% more...
        
             | throwaway1777 wrote:
             | Drink a second cup.
        
       | arrosenberg wrote:
       | My man has never had Scottish Breakfast tea. I have never been
       | more jittery than after a cup of that stuff.
        
       | barrucadu wrote:
       | Er, what? This article seems to be starting from a weird premise.
       | Even the very first sentence, "It is a rare person who can do
       | nothing- purely and without guilt- especially in our current
       | culture of busywork." I can't relate to. Is it really so uncommon
       | for someone to just do nothing... or does the author just
       | surround themselves with such people?
       | 
       | Also, this:
       | 
       | > I suspect this is why from China and Japan to here in the UK,
       | slow and elaborate practises have formed over centuries around
       | the proper way to drink tea. Rituals that the takeaway cup and
       | drink-at-the-desk culture have been unable to entirely erase.
       | 
       | Is comparing apples to oranges. You could easily flip the drinks,
       | and make a point about how the ritual of brewing coffee, taking a
       | cup out to your garden, and drinking it in the sun, is more
       | relaxing than the UK office culture of making (and offering to
       | make) cups of tea which are then consumed at your desk.
        
         | davzie wrote:
         | You sound awfully offended at not agreeing with someone on the
         | internet. I assume you must be in your early twenties because
         | to be able to sustain such an attitude would likely lead to an
         | extraordinarily high blood pressure that could send you to an
         | early grave.
         | 
         | Have a bath and relax.
        
       | chanandler_bong wrote:
       | The author obviously has never been to the UK. _Nothing_ happens
       | without tea. Sure, coffee is commonplace, even dominant in some
       | realms, but tea is life.
       | 
       | Have a plumber in to fix a leak, or an electrician to look at a
       | wonky switch? Without the offer and supply of copious cuppas,
       | you'll be lucky if you don't drown/get electrocuted after the job
       | is "done".
        
         | vram22 wrote:
        
         | gerdesj wrote:
         | Are you sure you actually read the article (this isn't /. don't
         | you know):
         | 
         | "I suspect this is why from China and Japan to here in the UK,
         | slow and elaborate practises have formed over centuries around
         | the proper way to drink tea."
         | 
         | The author is a Brit, ie one of us.
         | 
         | We own a built in coffee machine that does bean to cup - I
         | insist on an Italian standard type blend (but wifey is starting
         | to chafe about that - we'll see, ie I'll change it eventually)
         | - 75% Arabica and 25% Robusta.
         | 
         | We also drink an absolute shit load of black tea. Nothing fancy
         | because all black tea is roughly the same. I use to work in a
         | tea plant in Hampshire (UK) many years ago so I have a fair
         | idea about the stuff. We generally go for Yorkshire for no
         | particular reason.
         | 
         | Tea is superb on a hot day and we have had quite a few
         | recently. I have no idea why it works so well but when it is
         | 40C+ outside then why not reach for a 90C cup of tea?
        
           | skyyler wrote:
           | >Nothing fancy because all black tea is roughly the same
           | 
           | Please, please, please, please try some good Chinese teas
           | some time.
        
       | thunkle wrote:
       | I've been extremely sensitive to caffeine and so coffee doesn't
       | work for me. Recently I've been enjoying the ritual of preparing
       | white tea from one of those hard tea disks. I have a special tea
       | knife that lets me pry away layers, I then put them in a small
       | tea pot (8oz) do a first rinse, and add the specific water temp
       | and the specific time. I've found the ritual itself to be quite
       | tactile and pleasing and the caffeine to not be too overpowering.
       | It's a lovely way to wake up or take a work break.
        
         | PuppyTailWags wrote:
         | If you enjoy white tea in cakes you may consider aging your
         | white tea cakes in humidified bins. They get deeper and richer
         | in flavor as they age that way, but the humidity is important.
        
         | tuatoru wrote:
         | TIL about the existence of white tea. Thank you!
         | 
         | Fun fact: "White tea may have first appeared in English
         | publication in 1876, where it was categorized as a black tea,
         | ..."
         | 
         | So white can be black sometimes!
         | 
         | 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_tea
        
           | steadicat wrote:
           | White tea is actually closer to black tea than the name
           | implies. Because - unlike green tea - it is not steamed to
           | stop the oxidation process, it oxides naturally as it dries.
           | This puts it somewhere between green tea and black tea in
           | terms of oxidation (which is also where oolong is BTW[1]).
           | Some oolongs and white teas - if brewed similarly - are very
           | very close to black tea in terms of flavor.
           | 
           | [1] The technical difference between oolong and white is
           | simply that white is processed naturally, whereas oolong has
           | more "steps" (oxidation, drying, steaming, etc.). The steps
           | can be manipulated to give the tea a different character.
           | Oolongs are often roasted, for example.
        
         | cercatrova wrote:
         | Unfortunately even tea is too caffeine intense for me so I've
         | been sticking to decaffeinated coffee. A factoid, the color of
         | a tea does not relate to its caffeine content.
        
           | Entinel wrote:
           | There is still a world of tea for people that are caffeine
           | sensitive. I find a lot of jasmine teas are light on
           | caffeine, cha hua is tea made from the flowers of the tea
           | plant and that is barely caffeinated and if that is still too
           | much there is always rooibos, honeybush, and other herbals.
        
             | sammalloy wrote:
             | Came here to put in a good word for rooibos. When I went
             | through a caffeine-free phase for several years, it was my
             | go to drink. It also makes fantastic iced tea.
        
       | wwilim wrote:
       | Tea is better for planning and thinking alone, coffee is better
       | for repetitive work once you've planned it out with tea, and for
       | discussing things with others.
       | 
       | That being said, coffee is essential in the morning for low blood
       | pressure people. Tea doesn't quite start the engine up the same
       | way - clearing and waking up the brain is no use if the heart is
       | still at 50 bpm and the eyelids are as heavy as the Iron Curtain.
        
       | lawrenceyan wrote:
       | Has anyone done work on genetically engineering tea for higher
       | caffeine content? I imagine there'd be a decent business for tea
       | with coffee-bean caffeine level parity.
        
       | aaaaaaaaaaab wrote:
       | >Paul Erdos once famously said that 'a mathematician is a device
       | for turning coffee into theorems'.
       | 
       | Wrong. It was Alfred Renyi.
        
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