[HN Gopher] Welcome Home, Garry Tan
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       Welcome Home, Garry Tan
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 584 points
       Date   : 2022-08-29 13:04 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | richarlidad wrote:
       | Welcome back, Garry!
        
       | threefiftyone96 wrote:
       | Congratulations, Garry! Huge fan of your work, especially the
       | high-value YouTube material.
       | 
       | One question: what does this mean for Initialized Capital?
        
       | Sytex wrote:
       | Congrats Garry!
        
       | justinzollars wrote:
       | Garry is an awesome individual. Not only a mentor in tech, but a
       | community advocate in San Francisco! I'm so happy about this
       | news!
        
       | exhaze wrote:
       | I think Garry changed my life in 2013 and might be reason why an
       | awkward inarticulate engineer got into YC. He believed in my me
       | and my cofounder.
       | 
       | To me, Garry is one of the people that embodies the spirit of YC.
       | See some kind of potential in early founders (my cofounder called
       | this "a twinkle in his eye"). Believe in them. Give them a shot.
       | 
       | Being a founder is SO lonely. Especially when few believe in what
       | you're doing.
       | 
       | So happy that Garry's back.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | cheeko1234 wrote:
       | Please revive Posterous!
        
         | swyx wrote:
         | could you elaborate what Posterous did well, for those of us
         | who never saw it?
        
           | graderjs wrote:
           | I liked the ability to cross post to Twitter, Facebook, Plurk
           | etc. It was like the one place blog control panel, make a
           | post there and spread it out.
        
             | swyx wrote:
             | have you tried Buffer for that? any pain points there?
             | 
             | (asking because i have minor pain points but not sure if
             | enough)
        
         | panicpanicpanic wrote:
         | He did in the form of Posthaven [1] but I'd say please keep it
         | updated. The last post on the Posthaven blog is five years
         | old.[2]
         | 
         | [1] https://posthaven.com/ [2] https://blog.posthaven.com/read-
         | about-how-fly-has-helped-wit...
        
           | wahnfrieden wrote:
           | Incredible, a public + private UGC hosting service with no
           | service terms or code of conduct (that I could find, even in
           | onboarding). That's so brave lol
        
       | nik736 wrote:
       | This is good news. Congrats!
        
       | maram wrote:
       | "Garry Tan is a moral canary in a coal mine. When people hate on
       | Garry Tan, they out themselves as either evil or stupid, because
       | in fact Garry is as close to a 100% good guy as you get". --Paul
       | Graham https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1460931338131890180
       | --------
       | 
       | Congratulations Garry! Your blogs were my inspirations when I was
       | running my startup. I always remember this line:
       | 
       | "The ideal startup team involves really two major roles --
       | builder, and hustler. I used to say it took three roles
       | (designer, engineer, hustler).....In reality, I think designer /
       | engineer can be abstracted to builder".
        
         | stakkur wrote:
         | I have no strong opinion of Tan, but calling a person who
         | happily worked for (and profited from) Palantir a 'moral canary
         | in a coal mine' seems a bit of a stretch.
        
           | purple_ferret wrote:
           | Yeah but that was before he had the type of money to buy the
           | moral high ground
        
           | LewisVerstappen wrote:
           | Tan worked at Palantir prior to 2007, so if you're blaming
           | him for Palantir's work with ICE then...
           | 
           | > they out themselves as either evil or stupid
        
             | stakkur wrote:
             | Based only on your comment, I'm guessing you're unaware of
             | Palantir's work with intelligence agencies even when Tan
             | was there. Also, Thiel's mission from the start was this
             | kind of work.
             | 
             | I served in the Marine Corps. I've had some exposure to
             | Palantir's 'offerings'. It's a fucking nightmare of a
             | company, morally and ethically, and it always has been.
        
               | systemvoltage wrote:
               | I've studied Thiel, he's just not mainstream left. If you
               | want to listen to him with good faith, I enjoyed this
               | interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9f0W2KD5s
               | 
               | Doesn't come across evil to me unless by evil you mean
               | just not mainstream left, which might be the correct in
               | the valley.
        
               | sterlind wrote:
               | I tried to watch that interview. It's just dry, boring,
               | slow and abstract (to me) but I'll grant you it wasn't
               | what I was expecting.
               | 
               | My issue with Thiel is his hypocrisy: he warns about
               | surveillance AI and how it's evil, which is just rich,
               | since he founded Palantir and holds shares of Clearview.
        
               | systemvoltage wrote:
               | Someone asked him directly this question and he addressed
               | it in quite a lot of detail, something along the lines of
               | two morally good ideas of extreme transparency and
               | extreme privacy. I don't agree with him though, I
               | personally stand strictly on the conservative/classical-
               | liberal side that there is no compromise that's
               | acceptable with regards to 4th amendment.
        
               | hellomyguys wrote:
               | Peter Thiel's in-house philosopher Curtis Yarvin is a
               | monarchist. So yes, I guess you're correct he isn't
               | mainstream left...
        
               | chx wrote:
               | Not "mainstream left"? I guess the right, what was once
               | the far right but today is just the right is indeed not
               | "mainstream left". Make no mistake where he stands: he
               | was one of the largest donors of Trump, served on his
               | transitional team and has once written "I no longer
               | believe that freedom and democracy are compatible".
               | 
               | https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-
               | thiel/educatio...
        
               | systemvoltage wrote:
               | There were hundreds of doners to Donald Trump's 2020
               | campaign, let alone 2016 campaign. If not directly, then
               | through other superPACS including FAANG companies [1].
               | 
               | https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-
               | race/donald-tr...
               | 
               | If your viewpoint is so myopically constrained by a
               | single data point, I don't know what to say.
               | 
               | I find intellectuals from all corners of political
               | spectrum to be interesting. Usually, when people dismiss
               | intellectuals not for their arguments, but by some
               | ostensible thinly veiled morality or the media zeitgeist;
               | it is already an indicator that something interesting is
               | out there. Anyways, all I am saying is that Peter is not
               | evil in any stretch of the definition as the media
               | portrays him. He is just not your typical conformist
               | thinker.
               | 
               | [1] They only paused after Jan 6th, they were happily
               | donating to both parties:
               | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-
               | corporate-go...
        
               | wahnfrieden wrote:
               | you talk about donating to "both sides" however dems are
               | also a conservative party and hardly a "leftist"
               | organization, your point is not as strong as you make it
               | seem
        
               | systemvoltage wrote:
               | I am addressing "mainstream left" and honestly, the main
               | point of contention is that we should debate about Peter
               | Thiel, but calling him evil is wrong and extremely
               | misinformed.
        
               | chx wrote:
               | It is neither wrong nor is it misinformed.
               | 
               | Do you remember why Thiel invested in Confinity which
               | became PayPal? Because he thought a digital wallet could
               | lead to "the erosion of the nation-state". If it's not
               | self evident to you why that's a bad thing perhaps read
               | https://eand.co/how-america-collapsed-and-became-a-
               | fourth-wo...
               | 
               | Max Chafkin argues that Thiel "has been responsible for
               | creating the ideology that has come to define Silicon
               | Valley: that technological progress should be pursued
               | relentlessly--with little, if any, regard for potential
               | costs or dangers to society." continued with "Palantir,
               | his second company, popularized the concept of data
               | mining after 9/11 and paved the way for what critics of
               | the technology call surveillance capitalism".
               | 
               | And of course there was gawker. No, what gawker did was
               | not right but Thiel's reaction was not right either.
               | That's some straight up vigilante BS.
        
               | wahnfrieden wrote:
               | It's fine to want the erosion of the nation-state, but
               | Thiel specifically wants to replace it with a monarch,
               | not a free society
        
               | blast wrote:
               | He does? Where has he said that?
        
               | chx wrote:
               | > It's fine to want the erosion of the nation-state,
               | 
               | this is crazy talk. Sorry.
        
               | maram wrote:
               | Not to defend Thiel, but don't you think that his exist
               | from Facebook (after 17 years) because of the stance they
               | took at the beginning of the pandemic is worthy of some
               | attention?
               | 
               | Specially, that Facebook suffocated voices of Trump's
               | advisors who opposed the lockdown.
               | 
               | "Social media, particularly Twitter, YouTube, and
               | Facebook, was actively suffocating voices, including
               | mine, that dissented from the accepted COVID narrative.
               | By August, Facebook told the Washington Post they had
               | taken down seven million posts "for spreading coronavirus
               | misinformation." Meanwhile, Wikipedia crafted smears and
               | distortions of my background and then locked it to
               | edits". --Dr. Scott Atlas, A Plague Upon Our House: My
               | Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from
               | Destroying America
        
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             | Aeolun wrote:
             | I dunno, but Palantir has always been a little bit...
             | 
             | I mean, it's kinda in the name.
        
               | hackernewds wrote:
               | Not really
        
         | systemvoltage wrote:
         | Being a good guy probably ranks the least IMO for leading VC.
         | You need to be extremely shrewd and calculative, have a great
         | bullshit detector, need to have solid intuition based on scant
         | data, good general knowledge, well versed in various industries
         | and areas of study, pragmatic and brutally honest. I am
         | probably missing a few more. Speaking generally, nothing
         | against Garry.
        
           | devwastaken wrote:
           | Do both. There's nothing preventing you from looking at the
           | numbers, the pitch, and saying "no." In terms of being
           | "good". You can be honest and kind the same as how one can be
           | honest and mean.
        
         | preommr wrote:
         | > The extreme left in SF politics (which in SF = the
         | Establishment).
         | 
         | ???
         | 
         | kind off topic, but I am curious what other people in SF think
         | about this statement. I don't live there, but I find it
         | surprising and dubious that the extreme anything is also "the
         | establishment", not saying it's not possible but seems unlikely
         | to me.
        
           | hackernewds wrote:
           | ? where do you get this?
        
             | preommr wrote:
             | It's from the twitter thread by paul graham that the OC
             | linked. It was a response to someone asking who dislikes
             | Garry Tan, to which Paul Graham replied:
             | 
             | "The extreme left in SF politics (which in SF = the
             | Establishment)"[1]
             | 
             | [1]
             | https://twitter.com/stevemushero/status/1461013669114892288
        
           | vxNsr wrote:
           | My guess is: the administration controlling North Korea would
           | be considered by many to be extreme (left, right, you pick)
           | but _in_ North Korea they are the establishment.
           | 
           | So too in SF, outside of cali they would be considered
           | extreme (left, right, you pick) but in SF they are the
           | establishment.
           | 
           | Not passing judgment on whether that's right or wrong just
           | saying that's what that line could mean.
        
       | jmtame wrote:
       | Exciting news and big congrats to you Garry!
        
       | throwaway20222 wrote:
       | Congrats! Tons of respect.
       | 
       | What is happening to your current VC fund? I may have missed it,
       | but who do you hand the reins to?
        
         | cedricd wrote:
         | Jen Wolf and Brett Gibson
         | 
         | https://blog.initialized.com/2022/08/jen-wolf-and-brett-gibs...
        
       | balentio wrote:
       | While I acknowledge business as a driving force behind tech, I
       | think if you want to "change the world" all you really have to do
       | is provide solid financial support to open source tech since that
       | is where most of the "For profit" inspiration is coming from
       | anyway.
        
       | talhof8 wrote:
       | Wow, exciting news!
       | 
       | Congrats Garry. Feels like a John Frusciante comeback.
       | 
       | Really hoping to be part of the W23 batch.
        
       | tosh wrote:
       | Great person/institution-fit!
        
       | bobbygoodlatte wrote:
       | This makes me so optimistic for the future of YC. Congrats Garry!
        
       | sneak wrote:
       | > _After earning a degree in computer engineering from Stanford,
       | Garry was an engineer at Palantir and then created one of the
       | earliest and best-designed blogging platforms, Posterous._
       | 
       | This is a reminder that Palantir is the firm that sells data
       | mining software to US police and military organizations that then
       | use it to violate human rights.
       | 
       | It should be a black mark on anyone's record.
        
         | Aeolun wrote:
         | I don't think it's necessarily his, or Palantirs' fault that
         | the US government is evil.
        
           | wahnfrieden wrote:
           | All states are evil
        
             | dang wrote:
             | Please keep generic ideological rhetoric off HN, regardless
             | of ideology. It's repetitive and therefore tedious and
             | therefore not what this site is for.
             | 
             | https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&so
             | r...
             | 
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
         | colesantiago wrote:
         | I agree, but we should also go further:
         | 
         | Employees at Meta{Facebook, Instagram, Oculus, etc}, Twitter,
         | Google, Palantir and Uber are all complicit in building systems
         | that amplify surveillance capitalism and this goes for any
         | other company engaging in this space.
         | 
         | It should be a big black mark on anyone's record working at
         | those companies.
        
         | deepspace wrote:
         | > It should be a black mark on anyone's record.
         | 
         | Exactly. I have always maintained that a small but significant
         | way to put pressure on 'evil' companies, like Palantir, is to
         | blacklist any employees who have them on their resume, making
         | it difficult for them to attract talent. Unfortunately, I have
         | found that very people share that view, and I am hard-pressed
         | to figure out why.
        
       | sabotista wrote:
       | What are your thoughts on the MOC controversy? How do you plan to
       | hold accountable those who called in the Quora ban? Are they even
       | still part of Y Combinator? What documents in these matters will
       | you release--and for those to be withheld, why?
       | 
       | Thanks for answering, and good luck.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Please don't start this up again here, and please stop creating
         | sockpuppet accounts.
         | 
         | We detached this subthread from
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32637821.
        
         | cercatrova wrote:
         | What's the context for this for someone not following?
        
           | wahnfrieden wrote:
           | "MOC" is an online blowhard with a cult-like following
        
           | sabotista wrote:
        
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             | [deleted]
        
       | brianliou91 wrote:
       | When I was in YC Garry showed me how to be a founder. After YC
       | Garry showed me how to be a more compassionate human to myself
       | and others. I'd recommend everyone check out the inner work Garry
       | has also achieved beyond his external achievements.
       | 
       | Congrats Garry!
        
       | aglazer wrote:
       | Congratulations Garry and thank you Geoff!
       | 
       | Very excited to see the next chapter of growth at YC!
        
       | syrusakbary wrote:
       | I'm incredibly happy with this move.
       | 
       | I got to chat with Initialized (Garry was one of the co-founders)
       | a while ago and I must mention that I was greatly impressed by
       | Garry down-to-earth questions, knowledge, kindness and humility.
       | I've been following him since on his Youtube channel... it's a
       | gold mine for any entrepreneur out there.
       | 
       | Excited for what lies ahead for YC.
       | 
       | [1]: https://youtube.com/garrytan
        
         | NCC1701DEngage wrote:
         | I actually found his channel with the alternative YouTube
         | recommendations database I'm working on. He was one of the top
         | links off the list for Y Combinator's channel.
         | 
         | The list for his channel includes some likely suspects like
         | TechCrunch, Y Combinator, and a16z but also some smaller names
         | doing business advice like Section4 and David Perell:
         | 
         | https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUCIBgYfDjtWlbJhg--Z4sOgQ/
        
       | todd3834 wrote:
       | I didn't understand the title. Is it common to say welcome home
       | when someone departs a company? I almost thought maybe he passed
       | away and it was a reference to being "in a better place"
        
         | garry wrote:
         | I spent 5 years as a partner at Y Combinator previously, left
         | to work on Initialized Capital (which is in good hands now with
         | incredible early stage investors Jen Wolf and Brett Gibson),
         | but now will be returning in the new year to work on the next
         | phase of Y Combinator with many of my old friends and
         | colleagues.
        
           | todd3834 wrote:
           | Thanks for the clarification. Congrats Gary!
        
       | garry wrote:
       | Believe it or not, my journey to Y Combinator started similar to
       | how you may experience YC -- through being a regular lurker and
       | reader on Hacker News.
       | 
       | I went to Startup School, me and my cofounders applied, we got an
       | interview, and we got in. I was an engineer, designer and PM. I'd
       | built teams and products, but I'd never built a company.
       | 
       | YC gave me a shot, a community, knowhow, and the ability to
       | access capital, talent, and customers.
       | 
       | YC changed my life. I want it to help a lot more people achieve
       | their dreams and goals. It did for me, beyond my wildest dreams.
        
         | tomrod wrote:
         | I look forward to learning more about your journey. I've
         | recently launched a company and I am finding the YC Startup
         | School content fascinating.
         | 
         | Being from a non-coastal area, my HN engagement has for many
         | years been a lurker and general technology trend interest. I'm
         | pleasantly surprised how well developed YC content is.
        
         | pauldix wrote:
         | Congrats Garry! So well deserved. I feel so lucky to have had
         | your help as a group partner when we went through W13 as
         | Errplane (hah, good thing we figured out something to pivot
         | to).
         | 
         | YC changed my life too and I can't imagine it in better or more
         | capable hands.
        
         | rmason wrote:
         | Congratulations! While I am going to greatly miss the videos
         | you did on YouTube the truth is you are so right for the job.
         | Two words of advice for you - be bold.
        
         | HorizonXP wrote:
         | Garry, massive congratulations. Been watching your career
         | growth for years, and been inspired by your every step. Being
         | able to have you as one of my group partners was a blessed
         | period in my own career that I'm glad to have had.
         | 
         | Hacker News & YC have changed my life too. HN pulled me out of
         | a funk during a Master's thesis that my heart was no longer in,
         | and thrust me into the world of startups. Going through YC did
         | the same, and put me onto a path of success with my own
         | startup.
         | 
         | I'm very excited to see you back at the helm of YC, because I
         | know how many others you'll be able to help. I'm excited for
         | this future.
        
           | swayvil wrote:
           | Me too. I too am inspired by Garry's growth.
        
         | arjungupta-atx wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing!
        
         | wrst-alex wrote:
         | Just incredible to see you complete the circle here Garry.
         | 
         | I'll be really interested to see the perspective you bring,
         | especially when it comes to the human side of the equation of
         | founding a startup.
         | 
         | I remember for some time you were looking seriously at mental
         | health for teams. Any early thoughts on how you might adjust
         | the current sentiment of hustle culture?
        
         | nicholasjbs wrote:
         | Congrats, Garry! Well-deserved. Excited for you and for YC.
        
         | corywatilo wrote:
         | You gave me my start in 2009 when you let me build Posterous
         | themes. That experience introduced me into the world of
         | startups, pushed me to become better at code, helped me get my
         | start in design, and ultimately changed my life forever.
         | 
         | I can't thank you enough for giving a nobody like me a shot,
         | and I can't wait to passively watch as you continue to do this
         | for countless others!
        
         | yayitswei wrote:
         | Congrats Garry! Will never forget how you helped us design our
         | logo during office hours. Took 2 minutes and the result was
         | better than anything we came up with that month.
        
         | speby wrote:
         | This is pretty fabulous news, Garry. You've been an
         | inspiration, from meeting you back in the Posterous days during
         | Summer '08 and seeing your contributions and achievements along
         | the way since then. Bravo!
        
         | mehuln wrote:
         | Congrats Garry! This is wonderful news. Garry was extremely
         | generous and helpful to us during our YC days. Cannot thank him
         | enough for all his help. This is awesome for YC!
        
         | bradgessler wrote:
         | Congrats! Who knew in '08 that you'd be running the joint one
         | day?
        
         | tylermenezes wrote:
         | I have nothing but positive memories from all the times we met
         | in S12. Your genuine excitement for the cool products everyone
         | was building was refreshing in a time when all my conversations
         | were about customer development and building an org. (Not that
         | we didn't also talk about that, of course, but you were always
         | the biggest reminder WHY we were here.)
         | 
         | I really think there's no one better for this role, it makes me
         | really excited about YC again! Congrats!
        
         | oluomike1 wrote:
         | Hearty congratulations Garry, Start-up school was an awesome
         | experience with you. Cheers!
        
         | ignoramous wrote:
         | Interesting you chose to become a VC given your reservations
         | about growth v. sustainability:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5229805 (:
         | 
         | Either ways, good luck!
         | 
         | (btw, love the production quality of your videos on youtube;
         | and now, YC-- Dalton, Michael et al-- who do have fantastic
         | content, can use a bit of that production magic).
        
           | arcticbull wrote:
           | Where better to change things than from the inside?
        
         | Dimidium-07 wrote:
         | What are the biggest changes you want to do?
        
         | con wrote:
         | Congratulations! Quite the journey since we did YC S08! :D
        
         | billclerico wrote:
         | congrats Garry!! you are a founder's founder and will do great
         | things at YC.
        
         | qaq wrote:
         | Congrats! YC is lucky to have you!
        
         | gaganbiyani wrote:
         | Congrats Garry - pretty amazing story!
        
         | hailmac wrote:
         | Super impressed by this comment, really shows a lot of
         | character and humility from GT. Will be following the next
         | chapter with interest.
        
         | purple_ferret wrote:
         | Did you cash out of COINBASE yet?
         | 
         | 300k to 2.4 billion WOW
        
         | leetrout wrote:
         | That is awesome.
         | 
         | Hope you enjoy the ride!
        
         | math-dev wrote:
         | Good luck! May the force be with you
        
         | halfmatthalfcat wrote:
         | What advice can you give to solo founders trying to break into
         | YC, outside of the normal platitudes? Seems like there is an
         | almost impossible bar to meet.
        
         | mritchie712 wrote:
         | What's your take on YC batch sizes? YC has gotten criticism for
         | making them too big, but it seems totally natural to me to
         | scale them up. Do you think they are right-sized now?
        
           | FerociousTimes wrote:
           | I like how this is turning fast into sort of a press
           | conference minus the audio or video signal.
        
         | fitzrocks wrote:
         | I'm very, very excited for this!
        
         | mattmaroon wrote:
         | Congrats Garry! You're going to do a great job I am sure.
        
         | Carlee wrote:
         | Crazy to see you end up at the top! Excited to have you run the
         | programme for all the newcomers!
        
         | soheil wrote:
         | I've been following your YT videos and glad you're back at YC.
         | You're a total inspiration.
        
         | jaxr wrote:
         | Congrats Garry. As an S22 founder and long time follower of
         | your content (and also HN lurker) I am excited that you are
         | back in YC!
        
         | upupandup wrote:
        
         | jeremymims wrote:
         | Congratulations, Garry! YC couldn't have picked a better
         | leader.
        
         | dzohrob wrote:
         | congrats garry! huge news!
        
       | cdelsolar wrote:
       | Congrats Garry!!
        
       | hellomyguys wrote:
       | I guess everyone Garry has blocked on Twitter will not be
       | applying to YC any time soon :)
        
         | garry wrote:
         | Twitter has been a tough one - I got involved in local politics
         | which has been a challenge. Large accounts typically do have to
         | block a lot to make it usable, and in particular I've had
         | problems with folks doxxing my former home address (I had to
         | sell that house and move), and making threats of violence
         | against me.
         | 
         | I'm sorry if I got it wrong, and I am happy to unblock if I did
         | get it wrong.
        
           | sandofsky wrote:
           | I'm seeing many people say you've blocked them without ever
           | having interacted with you. Many have jumped to the
           | conclusion that you simply block people who disagree with
           | your politics. I don't tweet about SF politics, but after I
           | tweeted this, you replied tell me it's funny but wrong, and
           | then blocked me:
           | https://twitter.com/sandofsky/status/1491167231467999236
           | 
           | Which is fine. I block plenty of people. I also mute people,
           | because a block carries a message. And if I found myself in
           | role that gets considerable scrutiny, I'd probably reevaluate
           | my entire approach to social media.
        
             | klintcho wrote:
             | There are a bunch of block-tools which are of the kind
             | "block everyone that liked this tweet", "block everyone
             | that follows this person" etc. Casting that wide of a net
             | probably also carries some "false negatives" (which could
             | explain the "I'm blocked but never interacted with the
             | person).
        
             | NelsonMinar wrote:
             | I'm in the blocked club and have no idea why. Here's the
             | one tweet I ever sent @garrytan, responding to his reply to
             | me: https://twitter.com/nelson/status/1185919273065041925.
             | (I'm happy to report that business reopened with new owners
             | and the rumor was the old owners just went broke.)
             | 
             | I agree blocking people is fine and should be stigma free.
             | But Mr. Tan's framing of his reasons for blocking seems at
             | odds with the visible pattern. Fair enough; feel free to
             | block me just because you're tired of my bullshit.
        
               | Uhhrrr wrote:
               | I'm in the blocked club and have never interacted with
               | him!
        
           | mempko wrote:
           | I'm blocked by you and have no idea why! Same name on
           | twitter.
        
           | glenda wrote:
           | The thing is you've also been quite aggressive toward other
           | people on twitter. Making yourself out to be a victim is
           | definitely en vogue.
        
           | 908087 wrote:
           | The fact that you've got countless people who have never
           | heard of you blocked, would seem to indicate that you have in
           | fact got it wrong.
        
             | hombre_fatal wrote:
             | I don't see what's wrong about it. They are probably on
             | some blocklist of low value reply guys.
        
               | hellomyguys wrote:
               | No, I think he blocks anyone who likes a tweet that
               | disagrees with him. Not necessarily people who are
               | replying to him.
        
               | bot41 wrote:
               | so? it's just twitter
        
               | hellomyguys wrote:
               | I was just correcting you're incorrect point...
        
         | pain_perdu wrote:
         | I am blocked by Garry despite having zero interactions with him
         | on Twitter (nor ever tweeting anything controversial). I see
         | numerous reports of other people stating the same both in this
         | thread and on twitter: https://imgur.com/a/MOPDVSl
        
         | 12_throw_away wrote:
         | Besides the "block anyone remotely progressive" approach to
         | social media (including industry folks like Anil Dash [1]) - he
         | seems extremely uncivil and rude [2]. And Sam Altman has
         | explicitly referenced his politics as a reason for this
         | decision [3].
         | 
         | This gives me the impression that there's a specific political
         | agenda being advanced at YC ...
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1564285359755874304?s=20...
         | 
         | [2]
         | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Y9DCUYAEkV1p?format=png&name=...
         | 
         | [3] https://twitter.com/sama/status/1564256798323851265
         | 
         |  _edit_ : deleted a not very clear link about certain
         | politically charged individuals.
        
           | 1123581321 wrote:
           | Anil can be combative on Twitter. I have respect for him and
           | positive interactions under my real name, but I'm not
           | surprised he would have gotten into a heated discussion at
           | some point with Garry.
        
           | wahnfrieden wrote:
           | so YC is celebrating having political influence that is
           | explicitly pro-cop, hard on crime via punishment, etc.,
           | that's lovely
        
           | 12_throw_away wrote:
           | So, why the downvotes? We're not allowed to talk about this?
        
             | Vaslo wrote:
             | You can talk about it but when most folks in tech are
             | fairly to extremely liberal, why is it bad to have
             | representation from all sides? The left (which I'm guessing
             | you are a part of) preaches diversity. Shouldn't diversity
             | also include political views as well as race, class, and
             | gender affiliation?
        
               | xmonkee wrote:
               | Nope. Look up paradox of tolerance
        
               | wahnfrieden wrote:
               | this is their first and only openly politically-active
               | hire at this level, with the politics explicitly relevant
               | to their hiring, I don't know why you're calling that
               | balanced representation unless you mean that it's
               | balanced to have right wing leader-owners dominate
               | liberals and leftist workers (lol)
        
             | smcl wrote:
             | Kinda wondering what his beef with Hamasaki was that
             | prompted "Resign you piece of shit". Seems like this was a
             | Board of Education person, was he that bad, like poisoning
             | the kids school lunches?
             | 
             | edit: sorry I realise that I may asking some stupid
             | questions that everyone knows already. But to me Garry Tan
             | was just the Posterous guy. I'm just a bit floored to hear
             | that there's more to this and I'm trying to find my
             | bearings. Seeing the name Andy Ngo is a massive red flag to
             | me, but I can't really parse what was being said in the
             | tweet.
        
               | shuckles wrote:
               | John Hamasaki is a criminal defense attorney in San
               | Francisco who was a former member of the police
               | commission. He seems to advertise himself by being
               | intentionally incendiary, making up lies like the police
               | get paid overtime to participate (i.e. walk) in the pride
               | parade. There is also a group of people around him who
               | amplify his lies. I can imagine people being fed up with
               | being the target of his harassment, which I believe Gary
               | was.
        
               | smcl wrote:
               | This seemed to be about some board of education thing
               | though - Garry's tweet features a screenshot saying
               | "THANK YOU for donating to our campaign to recall the
               | school board..." but it's aimed at the Hamasaki guy.
        
               | shuckles wrote:
               | Hamasaki takes sides and works with prolific accounts
               | over any salient prog vs. mod local political issue. The
               | fact that the topic in the screenshot had to do with the
               | BOE recall specifically is pretty irrelevant. He had
               | probably been harassing Garry for any local political
               | position for months. Unfortunately, Hamasaki also
               | recently deleted months of tweets to clean up his image
               | for a local election run, so it's hard to find citations.
        
               | wahnfrieden wrote:
               | Garry pushed a political agenda specifically for a tough
               | on crime via punishment approach (in terms of policing
               | streets, not so much tough on wage theft or other more
               | leading crimes). You make it sound like it was some
               | specific tactics that were the issue, rather than that
               | the issue he's taking is with an ideologically
               | diametrically opposed approach to addressing crime
        
               | shuckles wrote:
               | My comment was about Hamasaki being a liar and online
               | harasser and doesn't have anything to do with policy
               | positions.
        
             | Dma54rhs wrote:
             | Because it reads like an extreme left wing talking point
             | everyone is tired of. So many commens with the same wording
             | makes people wondering if it's not a Russian
             | disinformation/division campaign.
        
               | smcl wrote:
               | So as an outsider who is literally just trying to piece
               | this together, it doesn't seem extreme or left-wing at
               | all. Can you explain why this is an extreme left wing
               | talking point?
        
               | smcl wrote:
               | HOLY SHIT no way this is ridiculous, I just wanted to
               | check something that sounded "crazy" and it's true. I
               | liked about 5 anti @garrytan replies as a test and I am
               | unable to tweet or retweet! What the fuck!!!
               | 
               | Are you serious! Garry I pay for one of your fucking
               | services I just wanted to check that these people were
               | WRONG not that they were correct. What the hell.
        
               | smcl wrote:
               | I can't do shit on Twitter:
               | 
               | https://imgur.com/a/OBnVpUI
               | 
               | Cool! Ok so, confirmed. Garry Tan is a sinister guy. Glad
               | I asked here!
               | 
               | Edit: Sorry but how is this downvoted to zero? I have
               | done nothing except add five "likes" to Twitter and my
               | account is now banned there. This is insane. I was pro-
               | or-neutral-Garry at the start of this convo, he was just
               | the Posterous guy. Now my Twitter is gone. What the hell?
               | 
               | Edit 2: uhh so how do you get an account back?
        
             | dang wrote:
             | (Edit: the GP comment was edited after I wrote this - more
             | about that below:
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32642696.)
             | 
             | Hardened political rhetoric and seasoned talking points
             | aren't on topic here (regardless of which way the political
             | vector is pointing). If you check out the site guidelines,
             | it should be clear why:
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
             | 
             | You don't have to agree with anyone's views but this style
             | of argument is deathly to the _curious_ conversation we
             | want here. Curious conversation requires, among other
             | things, respect across differences--wanting to learn more
             | about how someone thinks, and why they think that way, and
             | trusting that they have good reasons for all that even if,
             | in the end, they 're wrong. And, of course, you and your
             | views deserve the same consideration.
             | 
             | If you want to argue against someone's views here (Garry's
             | or anyone else's), you'll get much further by making your
             | substantive points thoughtfully. We're trying to avoid the
             | online callout/shaming culture here, at least to the extent
             | possible on the open internet.
             | 
             | The culture of political attack goes very much the other
             | way, of course--people save screenshots of the worst things
             | they can find, bring them up at every opportunity, and so
             | on. Guilt by association is another common tactic. None of
             | this helps us really understand each other--any human being
             | can be made to look bad that way, so it really doesn't have
             | much persuasive power. It does get one's own side riled up
             | (in a yay way) and the opposing side riled up (in a boo
             | way), but riler-uppers are what we're trying to avoid on
             | HN, because they destroy the curious conversation I was
             | just talking about.
             | 
             | (I hope it's clear that all of the above should and does
             | apply equally to opposing political sides.)
        
               | caslon wrote:
               | Out of curiosity, why don't you make "YC churn"
               | announcements read-only, like job ads are?
               | 
               | There's not really much curious conversation when they
               | happen, and not really a huge chance of it, either. As an
               | example, the announcement of sama taking over was a
               | hundred and fifty comments of almost exclusively
               | "Congratulations!"
               | 
               | They're posts that are almost exclusively doomed, either
               | to incurious compliments, insults, or needless pessimism;
               | what questions that are asked _usually_ don 't get
               | answered, so there wouldn't really be a loss in it
               | anyway.
        
               | dang wrote:
               | I wouldn't call this a "churn announcement" - it's the
               | biggest YC news in years. I guess I can think of a few
               | different answers to your question. One is that since
               | it's significant new information, it's on topic (job ads
               | are the opposite of that). Another is that there's a
               | special relationship between YC and the HN community, and
               | it's good for the community to have space to discuss
               | that. A third is that there is definitely no way that the
               | community would support us trying to close such a topic
               | to comments.
               | 
               | Also, job ads get placed on the front page by software.
               | This submission got on the front page by upvotes like any
               | other.
        
               | FerociousTimes wrote:
               | It's definitely newsworthy and relevant to the community.
               | I support the status quo of non interference (laissez-
               | faire) by the mods into publishing status of this news
               | story and your reasoning stated in this comment.
        
               | 12_throw_away wrote:
               | What is the difference between "shaming" and "referencing
               | facts", exactly? I genuinely don't understand the
               | distinction. Also, I'm commenting on YC's choice, not
               | Garry's views. I understand if YC doesn't want to host
               | criticism of its decisions, but you should be upfront
               | about it.
               | 
               | I explicit reject this idea that it's unfair to point to
               | things people have said, even if they're screenshots.
               | Sorry, that's just deciding that you can pick and choose
               | data to ignore.
        
               | dang wrote:
               | Callout/shaming culture is a stock phrase I use to
               | describe the sort of internet culture we don't want here
               | [1]. Maybe the word 'shaming' isn't so applicable in this
               | case, though I do think shaming is part of why online
               | warriors like to preserve the worst internet traces left
               | by those they dislike, and copy them into each fresh
               | discussion.
               | 
               | Re 'facts': this is a red herring. There are infinitely
               | many facts. They don't select themselves; humans do that,
               | and they do so for non-factual reasons [2]. As a matter
               | of fact, "but it's a fact" is the most beloved defense of
               | trolls--not that you mean it that way. (Edit:
               | incidentally, I have no idea whether your claims about
               | Garry, including the ones you deleted, were facts or not
               | - but I'm assuming they are for present purposes because
               | it makes the moderation point stronger.)
               | 
               | The problem with your post is that it was obvious online
               | agitprop--in fact one couldn't find a more classic case
               | (edit: before you edited it--it's less that way now).
               | That's off topic on HN, but not because of trying to
               | protect YC from criticism (we don't moderate HN that way
               | [3] - plenty of people criticize YC here), nor because of
               | political disagreement (there's room for a wide range of
               | views, as long as people are using the site as
               | intended)--but rather because it makes threads more
               | predictable and nastier, and therefore more boring. We're
               | trying to optimize for something else on HN [4].
               | 
               | Edit: I just noticed that you edited your GP comment to
               | take out a couple of extreme guilt-by-association
               | references and to add a relevant tweet by sama. Those are
               | two steps towards an on-topic sort of political argument
               | (good), but if you're going to edit comments after
               | they've gotten replies, it's only fair to do so in a way
               | that doesn't deprive other posts of their original
               | meaning. My description ("hardened political rhetoric and
               | seasoned talking points") was accurate about your
               | original post and is less so now. In other words, you
               | subtly changed the thread to make the moderation look
               | less neutral and fair than it originally was. I hope that
               | was just an accidental side effect, and that your motive
               | for making those edits was a sincere desire to use HN as
               | intended.
               | 
               | [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&type=comment&date
               | Range=a...
               | 
               | [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=f
               | alse&qu...
               | 
               | [3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=f
               | alse&qu...
               | 
               | [4] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=t
               | rue&sor...
        
               | [deleted]
        
         | smcl wrote:
         | What's the story here, did this happen a lot or something?
        
           | password4321 wrote:
           | Many who get into it start blocking lists they get from their
           | bubble.
        
           | hellomyguys wrote:
           | From my understanding he autoblocks anyone who likes a tweet
           | that pushes back on his political takes.
        
             | daniel-cussen wrote:
             | Messages just like it are evenly diffused with death
             | threats. That's why.
             | 
             | I've gotten death threats, no joke. Hitman showed up at my
             | house one time. No joke.
             | 
             | No joke.
        
             | smcl wrote:
             | OK so I was waiting for a reply like this that explained
             | the accusation. I read this, liked a few @garrytan replies
             | that weren't positive and ... it appears I'm now blocked!?
             | What the hell!!??
        
       | milkers wrote:
       | Congrats Garry, I am happy to see you with that title and I am
       | very curious about what is ahead of the YC following your lead.
       | Best wishes!
        
       | Rauchg wrote:
       | Congrats! Exciting news for YC
        
       | TimCTRL wrote:
       | On the light end here, Aproova Mehta once said; "I learn't two
       | important lessons, First and foremost, Gary Tan loves his
       | beers..haha"
       | 
       | We probably wouldn't have instacart where it is if it weren't for
       | Gary. Thanks Gary.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/wkmR7TYUt_c?t=653
        
         | replwoacause wrote:
         | I could be wrong but I think he spells his name Garry, not
         | Gary.
        
       | bluelightning2k wrote:
       | I've always liked Garry.
        
       | jtemplestein wrote:
       | What a great appointment!
       | 
       | I've had one brief interaction with Gary a long time ago, and
       | he's been a role model ever since
       | 
       | I had a difference in opinion with my cofounder and wanted to
       | leave the startup we'd founded, even if it meant leaving the YC
       | program (which I adored), and would likely lose my visa to stay
       | in the US. Seeing how distressed I was, Gary took me aside
       | somehow simultaneously made me feel heard, but also told me that
       | it's up to me to come back stronger from this moment.
       | 
       | It made all the difference to me, and I've thought back to that
       | moment many times in the years to come.
        
       | chidog12 wrote:
       | Garry, I only have one ask (maybe two)!... Force them all to keep
       | making those YC Office Hour videos lol! Even better, whoever your
       | editing team is for your channel... add them to the team as well.
       | 
       | All the best!
        
       | extent-connifer wrote:
       | (Throwaway because it's a small world)
       | 
       | This is disappointing.
       | 
       | YC needs a fresh perspective. Recycling older members is not a
       | positive sign for continued innovation. I wouldn't point to "HODL
       | diamond hands" crypto hype (suddenly disappeared..) and personal
       | brand-building content creation as the type of leadership YC
       | needs at this stage.
       | 
       | Specifically in this, someone who has been running a large VC
       | fund for the past half-decade with considerable inside deal
       | access through YC. The conflicts of interest are sizable, and we
       | can't really pretend that they won't compound now that Garry's at
       | the head of YC.
       | 
       | Lastly, to balance flood of positive reviews, there have been
       | consistent (if quiet, again, small world) reports of pettiness
       | and using power/influence against personal grudges. I have not
       | worked with Garry directly, founder friends have and back
       | channels are..not same as the public comments here. Everyone has
       | weaknesses. This isn't a good one for the position.
        
         | goldenchrome wrote:
         | That's pretty funny. A sizable chunk of leaders I've
         | encountered left a wake of discontent behind them. And it's
         | always in the form of pettiness and grudges. Some people just
         | have weak morals. I imagine that's why they chase power for so
         | long--to prove that they don't.
        
         | baxtr wrote:
         | _> (Throwaway because it's a small world)_
         | 
         | So you don't think they can check your email? Sincere question.
        
           | dang wrote:
           | We don't require an email
        
             | oefnak wrote:
             | And even if you did, I can't imagine anyone on this site
             | having only one email address.
        
         | anotherfounder wrote:
         | I didn't realize Garry was so crypto-y. Now as the President
         | and CEO of YC where everyone constantly says "Make something
         | people want", "Solve a real problem", I'm curious for him to
         | chime in to the 'What's a real use-case for crypto?' debate.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | senttoschool wrote:
         | >I wouldn't point to "HODL diamond hands" crypto hype (suddenly
         | disappeared..)
         | 
         | This is my biggest worry. I'd have preferred a non-crypto-
         | junkie.
         | 
         | This is Gary saying that ETH will go up to $10k soon:
         | https://twitter.com/garrytan/status/1402648829732614146
         | 
         | It went to $1k instead.
         | 
         | At times, following Gary on Twitter felt like following a dumb
         | crypto bro.
         | 
         | Everyone looks like a genius during a bull market and 0%
         | interest rate environment.
        
           | SamReidHughes wrote:
           | > This is Gary saying that ETH will go up to $10k soon:
           | 
           | Well actually,
           | 
           | 1. He didn't say it will go up to $10k "soon." That video is
           | talking about long-term performance.
           | 
           | 2. ETH is down just 27% since that video, and has moved
           | farther up than down.
           | 
           | 3. It's only been a year since the video, which is talking
           | about The Merge as one of the factors behind this belief, and
           | The Merge hasn't happened yet.
           | 
           | 4. Quote from the video: "It's not really gonna be that
           | smooth a ride to $10000."
        
             | senttoschool wrote:
             | >1. He didn't say it will go up to $10k "soon." That video
             | is talking about long-term performance.
             | 
             | I remember reading his LinkedIn post on this $10k topic. In
             | it, I think he said something along the lines of "soon".
             | 
             | But it really doesn't matter. Saying $10k ETH is the same
             | as a random crypto bro saying $100k BTC soon. There are no
             | fundamentals. Just shilling. Marketing. Ponzi-like
             | behavior.
             | 
             | I don't doubt that ETH might go up to $10k eventually,
             | given enough time. After all, crypto is basically trading
             | with Nasdaq nowadays.
             | 
             | >2. ETH is down just 27% since that video, and has moved
             | farther up than down.
             | 
             | Down 40.97%
             | 
             | >3. It's only been a year since the video, which is talking
             | about The Merge as one of the factors behind this belief,
             | and The Merge hasn't happened yet.
             | 
             | He said the biggest factor is that ETH is deflationary:
             | https://youtu.be/jo58qEoThSs?t=381
             | 
             | He suggests that this makes ETH "ultra sound money".
             | 
             | I'm not going to argue for or against this idea.
             | 
             | >4. Quote from the video: "It's not really gonna be that
             | smooth a ride to $10000."
             | 
             | Sure. Anyone who's been in crypto long enough knows crypto
             | isn't a smooth ride. It doesn't say anything.
        
           | senttoschool wrote:
           | Also, if you're reading this Gary, just know that it's ok to
           | say you won by investing in Coinbase early but let's not act
           | like Coinbase isn't powered by scams.
           | 
           | You don't have to keep shilling crypto just because you
           | invested in Coinbase early. You can take the win and not be a
           | crypto bro.
           | 
           | You can shill crypto if our lives are improved by it and that
           | if crypto disappeared one day, our lives would be worse. But
           | not now. It kills your reputation hurts people. Right now, I
           | see you as a Matt Damon who knows how to code.
           | 
           | PS. I'm forever grateful for you pushing Boudin out in SF.
        
         | ignoramous wrote:
         | > _YC needs a fresh perspective. Recycling older members is not
         | a positive sign for continued innovation._
         | 
         | That they _may_ need [0], but I wouldn 't be as dismissive
         | about their current crop of partners either, given their
         | ridiculous and sustained success.
         | 
         | > _Lastly, to balance flood of positive reviews, there have
         | been consistent (if quiet, again, small world) reports of
         | pettiness and using power /influence against personal grudges._
         | 
         | I wouldn't know for sure, but there's two sides to every coin:
         | _With great power comes great responsibility " / "With great
         | power comes the absolute certainity that you will turn into a
         | right c*"
         | 
         | [0] In the lieu of other firms doing things differently,
         | including ex-YC Daniel Gross' Pioneer.App, BeOnDeck,
         | Enterpreneur First, Sequoia Arc, a16z Start, and others._
        
       | cammikebrown wrote:
       | I know Garry as "the fellow who I've never interacted with who
       | has me blocked on Twitter". Seems I'm not alone!
        
         | Rafuino wrote:
         | I almost feel bad he hasn't blocked me on Twitter
        
       | breck wrote:
       | I've used a lot of great products from Garry over the years.
       | 
       | My favorite is the software he built that YC alums get to use.
       | 
       | From 2008-2012 we had an email list.
       | 
       | Garry wrote a Rails site (IIRC) in 2012 and that was a clear
       | inflection point for YC alums. Total game changer for many of us
       | and has provided lots of value over the years. I think it was
       | also the starting point for online SUS.
       | 
       | Congrats Garry/YC!
        
       | cinntaile wrote:
       | Your profile is outdated now! ;)
        
       | gnicholas wrote:
       | Garry took the time to meet with me almost a decade ago, when my
       | startup was just a side project and I was still a full-time
       | corporate lawyer. I wish I'd been more ready to take his
       | excellent advice, which I still remember!
       | 
       | I also remember being surprised that he drove a humble old car,
       | perhaps a late-90s Camry? Respect.
        
       | podviaznikov wrote:
       | Garry is incredible. I've met him 10 years ago during YC. He
       | helped company I worked for a lot. Probably one of the most
       | available people from the whole YC - at least it seemed that way
       | to me.
       | 
       | Also, I did attend Garry's 30th birthday party. Great memory how
       | casual and down to Earth everything was.
       | 
       | Good luck with new/old adventure.
        
       | caslon wrote:
       | Now that there's been some regime change, and now that it's been
       | a while, can we finally get a report on why YC killed YCR, or at
       | least (and most importantly) HARC & VPRI (which had become
       | dependent on YCR funding)? And, in these times of VC prosperity,
       | could there be another attempt at it, this time with longer-term
       | dedications than "Whenever we get bored of the PR from funding
       | computational research or there's a momentary lapse in market
       | conditions?"
       | 
       | Long-term computing research is one of the _best_ ways to ensure
       | YCombinator 's continued growth and avoid dominance from
       | companies that are increasingly avoiding the publication of their
       | own research (and, divorced from either of those two things, it
       | would do a substantial amount of _good_ , which is more important
       | to some people but less an immediately-swaying argument to
       | capital); it seems absurd how it was sort of thrown to the
       | wayside on what seemed to be a whim (judging by when VPRI
       | shuttered and the other two stopped seeing activity, possibly by
       | the 2017 crypto crash causing YC to momentarily get more
       | conservative in its funding).
        
       | bluelightning2k wrote:
       | Small thing, but I asked Garry in the comments of his YC videos
       | what his production setup was. He took the time to answer and I
       | remember & appreciate that.
        
       | s5300 wrote:
        
         | replwoacause wrote:
         | Can you elaborate? I'm seeing a lot of positive things said
         | about him here so contrarian viewpoints make me genuinely
         | curious.
        
           | wahnfrieden wrote:
           | working to advance surveillance state, pro-cop activism and
           | political action, shilling crypto pump and dumps, gig
           | economy, etc
           | 
           | good returns for investors on a lot of the above hence the
           | interest and respect from business community. simple as that,
           | accumulated dollars talk. someone can be a ghoul and a
           | charlatan and still be pleasant, friendly, helpful on a
           | personal level to many.
        
             | replwoacause wrote:
             | Thanks for the info, I'll go read up on him some more to
             | see what I can find. If any of this is true, he sounds like
             | an odd choice for the CEO of YC.
        
               | wahnfrieden wrote:
               | He'll fit right in
        
           | s5300 wrote:
           | Yes, you're on HN. You're going to be seeing mostly positive
           | things said about him from this user base.
           | 
           | As for elaboration - I can only implore you to go look at the
           | history of his actions.
        
             | replwoacause wrote:
             | I'm aware of the website I'm using. You're also here but
             | are saying negative things and declining to provide more
             | detail to back your position. I don't have a dog in this
             | fight and haven't even heard of Garry until today, but
             | since you had such a strong negative opinion of him I
             | thought you might be able to tell us why.
        
       | spacesarebetter wrote:
       | Are you going to continue with your youtube channel? I hope you
       | do, learned so many things from that channel
        
         | garry wrote:
         | YES! I absolutely will! youtube.com/garrytan
        
           | swyx wrote:
           | love how you plug the URL like a regular up and coming person
           | would. congrats garry!
        
       | cheerioty wrote:
       | Wow, love it, go Garry!
        
       | fblp wrote:
       | This is an impressively casual press release!
        
       | fourstar wrote:
       | Congrats, Garry. You told me when I interviewed to have a co-
       | founder. I'm happy to report I still can't find a co-founder but
       | you were right.
        
       | felixchan wrote:
       | Garry Tan has been the most influential figure that I have ever
       | had a chance to come across. He appeared right at my critical
       | moments of life and death, at the turning points of the tide. I
       | am certain to say that without Garry and his helping hand, my
       | life would not be what it is today. I consider myself very lucky
       | to have met him.
       | 
       | Congratulations, Garry!
        
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       | gitfan86 wrote:
       | Congrats! What is going to happen of the next few years with AI
       | is going to be mind blowing. The more people you can stear away
       | from crypto and towards democratizing AI, the better, IMO.
        
         | rvz wrote:
         | > What is going to happen of the next few years with AI is
         | going to be mind blowing.
         | 
         | Or where it is headed it more dystopia.
         | 
         | AI has already been democratized to death by the same gate
         | keepers creating dystopian deep fakes and training on tons of
         | your data on lots of data centers to incinerate and burn up the
         | planet with zero efficient alternatives.
         | 
         | The AI game has run its course, with nothing left other than
         | the same Tech giants and one hypocritical Open 'faux' AI
         | company.
        
           | gitfan86 wrote:
           | Crypto bag holder I presume?
        
             | rvz wrote:
             | Not quite. But the direct opposite after playing the market
             | for fun, but that is totally irrelevant here and for
             | another time. Let's not deflect and make this about me.
             | 
             | We need to concern ourselves with AI running its course and
             | with wasteful deep learning models constantly training,
             | retraining with that burning up the planet via the data
             | centers especially with zero efficient alternatives, which
             | that is the main concern here and using our data to fuel
             | this dystopia.
        
             | dang wrote:
             | Please don't cross into personal attack. You can make your
             | substantive points without that.
             | 
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
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         | EddySchauHai wrote:
         | You say to the guy who wrote the first seed check of Coinbase
        
           | gitfan86 wrote:
           | Crypto has run it's course, I don't think Gary did anything
           | wrong by helping the crypto experiment happen. But YC is
           | about the future, not the past.
        
             | EddySchauHai wrote:
             | Realistically YC is about maximizing ROI and I would
             | happily bet a crypto-related startup will be in Summer '23s
             | cohort - they have crazy valuations and liquidity out of
             | the gates. Personally I want those startups to showcase
             | problems crypto is useful at solving rather than selling
             | pickaxes to the gold rush but I'm less sure that that'll
             | happen. Certainly the idea that Crypto has ran its course
             | is, IMO, premature - people have said that during every
             | bear market since the beginning yet overall usage appears
             | to be increasing and institutional buy-in again appears to
             | be increasing.
        
               | gitfan86 wrote:
               | Is it premature to say beanie babies or tulips have run
               | their course?
               | 
               | There will continue to be many hardcore fans of tulips
               | and crypto regardless of the price, but marketcap
               | adjusted for inflation has passed the max
        
           | bluelightning2k wrote:
           | As a crypto sceptic I'd still love to have been the person
           | who wrote that check
        
         | ignoramous wrote:
         | Or worse, Web3 ends up intertwining AI/AGI with it.
        
       | anotherfounder wrote:
       | Congrats, Garry! Seems appropriate to start to unblock founders
       | on Twitter?
        
       | upupandup wrote:
        
       | thenerdhead wrote:
       | Congrats Garry! Huge fan of your work and demeanor.
        
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