[HN Gopher] 2 Weeks Notice Checklist ___________________________________________________________________ 2 Weeks Notice Checklist Author : groundcoffee Score : 45 points Date : 2022-09-04 19:59 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (notice.fyi) (TXT) w3m dump (notice.fyi) | bot41 wrote: | 2 weeks? I have to give 3 months notice to my job | cpsns wrote: | Two weeks is typical for most jobs in North America. | modeless wrote: | And it's not required, it's a courtesy. In most cases you can | quit on the spot if you really feel like it. | delgaudm wrote: | How much notice do they have to give you when they're letting | you go? | social_quotient wrote: | I'd love to see a checklist but the other side of the table. When | a developer is going to leave and you have two weeks. What's the | checklist for handoff on a granular prioritized level. Do you | start from front end and work backwards or from db model and go | forward? | | The use case is I run an agency and we tend to get hired when an | internal resource is leaving and we need to take over a big fat | codebase we have never seen. The guy running is is leaving in 2 | weeks. Where do we start... a checklist like this could be | awesome | cratermoon wrote: | This is strictly about things a person needs to do for their own | financial and employment future after leaving. There's nothing | here about handing off the job responsibilities and knowledge to | colleagues, for example. | groundcoffee wrote: | Interesting! Handing off job responsibilities is definitely an | important aspect, especially for more tenured employees. | datalopers wrote: | Unless there's additional pay for doing so, quite literally not | my problem. A good manager from day one of a new hire should be | ensuring a smooth hand-off is already prepared in the event of | separation for any reason. | NeoTar wrote: | Arguably, during your last two weeks that _is_ your job - the | entirety of your job. So not additional pay, but your final | pay check is for doing just that. | [deleted] | kube-system wrote: | The entire point of giving two weeks notice is a courtesy to | your employer to facilitate a smooth transition period. | | If you DGAF about that, you might as well give no notice. | datalopers wrote: | Employers rarely give notice when terminating an employee. | kube-system wrote: | Of course not. Voluntary notice periods never have been | made out of fairness, it is and always was about self- | interest. | | Employees give two weeks to be nice and not burn bridges | with people on their team. | | Employees who are angry at their employers may often give | no notice at all. | | Employers don't give notice in layoffs because | disgruntled employees are not productive and are a | liability. | | Employers don't give notice in terminations because they | don't _want_ them working for two more weeks. | sys_64738 wrote: | It's called a transition plan and your manager should work that | out with you during your notice period. Who will pick up your | responsibilities? Accept no new work. Don't attend regular | meetings. Don't do overtime. Disengage from instant message | such as Teams or Slack. Do everything via email CC'ing your | manager. Start to work from home during your notice period. | Your single focus is hand off and get out ASAP. | konschubert wrote: | Losing your health care if you quit a job is pretty dystopian. | | There are lots of things wrong with Europe, but this isn't one of | them . | cammikebrown wrote: | That's IF your job gave you healthcare, and if it was any good, | and you have to pay anyway a lot of the time. (And most jobs | don't pay for dental or healthcare) | hollywood_court wrote: | Yep. It's a big "if." I took my first full time job at age 16 | and I'll be 41 in December. | | During that time I've had over a dozen employers and only one | offered health insurance. And it was so expensive that almost | no one, myself included, signed up for it. | | The only reason my wife works is because of the healthcare | and benefits given to her by being a state employee. The | money she earns is fairly insignificant relative to our other | income, but the benefits make it worth it. | kube-system wrote: | Private health insurance employer benefit plans exist in | Europe. | chrismeller wrote: | Someone1234 wrote: | Which is often supplemental insurance (akin to Medicare | Advantage in the US). If you lose that your cancer or | fertility treatment doesn't suddenly stop, or you won't go | bankrupt due to an unexpected medical problem. | | People, even in the US, often forget that the US has European | style healthcare coverage it is just restricted to those | above the age of 65. People over the age of 65 also make up | the largest voting block, and politicians in the US often | hurt younger demographics to benefit the retirees as a direct | result. | _trackno5 wrote: | Yeah it sucks. But I guess in Europe we compensate with | irrational house prices that'll pretty much keep a generation | from ever owning their own home, always at the mercy of a | landlord | linux2647 wrote: | We're heading that direction in the US | chrismeller wrote: | Something Americans forget when talking about "Europe" is that | it consists of different countries with different rules. | Outside big ones like the UK and Germany a LOT of them also | link your employment and membership in the social insurance | fund. | | In Estonia, for instance, your 20% social tax pays for the | healthcare system. If you get laid off of course there are | provisions along with your unemployment to include you, but | otherwise no job = no insurance. | vivegi wrote: | _(In jurisdictions where permitted; If you signed a non-compete | upon joining or anytime during service)_ Keep a copy of your Non- | compete agreement (and be aware of any restrictions around | companies, clients, industries that are barred and the duration | for which they are barred) | kube-system wrote: | True, but you should have probably sorted out you plan with | your non-compete even before you lined up your next job. | joeframbach wrote: | Can you replace the check marks with empty boxes so I can, you | know, check the list? | dtx1 wrote: | Feels like 90% of this is only necessary if you live in a country | with horrible insurance practices. If you life in a civilized | country with sane health insurance coverage you wouldn't need to | worry about almost any of this. | martin_a wrote: | Yes, totally. | | I was expecting to find a solid list about "hand over accounts" | or "change mail address" but it was all about being able to see | a dentist if necessary. | smcleod wrote: | I'm assuming this is focused on the USA specifically? | | In Australia and New Zealand most engineering jobs are 4 weeks | notice if you've worked there at least a year or two. | | I've heard that non-compete clauses don't really hold up here | either (not that I've even seen one either). | | Not sure what an "ESSP" is? | linux2647 wrote: | An ESPP is a stock purchasing program that allows employees to | buy company stock at a discount | gizmo385 wrote: | "ESPP" is an Employee Stock Purchase Plan and is a program that | allows employees to purchase company stock, usually at a | guaranteed discount | endtime wrote: | ESPP is an employee share purchasing plan, which is a way to | commit to buying shares in the company at a discounted rate | over time. My employer has an attractive plan that is pretty | much free money with extremely limited downside risk; there's a | federally-imposed $25k/year cap, which also limits the upside, | but it's well worth a couple clicks. | kube-system wrote: | Yes, it's US centric, but the US does not require two weeks | notice. It is a voluntary courtesy. Some people give more or | less depending on the circumstances. Employment in the US is | largely at-will, and can be terminated by either party at any | time. | wahnfrieden wrote: | How did we end up with a two weeks honor system that is only | expected from one side? | kortilla wrote: | Severance packages are common in tech for layoffs. That is | effectively many weeks notice, you just don't have to work | during them which is nicer. | | If you're being fired for underperforming, that's usually | many weeks in the making and you're given many written | notices (HR departments like really clear paper trails). | | The only times I hear of where termination is sudden | without notice or compensation is when people get fired for | something egregious or the company literally ran out of | money (startups can be rough). | | Caveat: all of the above applies to the tech industry. I | understand it can be much worse for employees in other | industries. | 13of40 wrote: | One of my previous companies (in the US) had a policy of | escorting you to the door immediately if you told them | you were leaving for a competitor. In practice, we | usually took them out to lunch, had a laugh about it, and | all but one of us came back to the office. | kube-system wrote: | Because voluntarily departures are generally cordial. | | There is effectively no overlap between severely | disgruntled employees and those who give their employer a | courteous heads up about their departure. Whereas | involuntary termination is never a happy circumstance. | [deleted] | sundaeofshock wrote: | Simple power dynamics. The employee has a lot more to loose | than the employer a when a person's employment ends. | tialaramex wrote: | I think the minimum term I've had in the last maybe 20 years | (in the UK) was 90 days. | sio8ohPi wrote: | By convention or by contract? Do new employers generally | accept that new hires won't be available to start for 90 | days, or does one only start the job search after giving | notice to your current employer? ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-09-04 23:00 UTC)