[HN Gopher] Roller Jet Printer
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       Roller Jet Printer
        
       Author : null_object
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2022-09-09 05:04 UTC (17 hours ago)
        
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       | freedude wrote:
       | This is not new. Back before time began we had thermal fax
       | machines that did the same thing. Try reading the paper after it
       | was left in the sunshine all afternoon.
       | 
       | Oops!
       | 
       | This is a niche that doesn't solve problems but may create new
       | problems. It also doesn't "deserve production".
        
       | oneplane wrote:
       | Considering this thing already exists, I suppose the goal here is
       | that it's a bit of industrial design?
       | 
       | Regardless of how it prints (be it the same as a ribbon-less
       | Zebra printer), this obviously requires an additional device so
       | instead of writing it down, then printing it, you could also not
       | print it and keep the written down version. Or you could write it
       | on the paper directly. But this is probably not why this was
       | designed, it's not a solution to anything, but just
       | conceptualised 'to exist'.
        
       | 1970-01-01 wrote:
       | Its a receipt printer and toilet paper stand in one!
        
         | jsmith45 wrote:
         | Insert obligatory Demolition Man reference here!
         | 
         | Violating the Verbal Morality Statute just to get some toilet
         | paper.
        
       | feyr wrote:
       | so.. it's a fax without a modem?
        
         | freedude wrote:
         | :D
        
         | doctor_eval wrote:
         | 5G
        
       | time0ut wrote:
       | I was expecting it be an inkjet due to the name. Instead, it is
       | just a thermal printer. At least its pretty.
        
       | jcrawfordor wrote:
       | This looks like the Brother PocketJet with a paper towel holder
       | taped to it.
        
       | Mattasher wrote:
       | Lovely design. Worth noting that small, roll feed thermal
       | printers exist:
       | 
       | https://brothermobilesolutions.com/products/printers/pocketj...
       | 
       | I've been looking for one that can print a single, very long
       | (unpagenated) document recently.
        
         | doctor_eval wrote:
         | The ones at Carrefour seem to do the job.
        
       | voisin wrote:
       | > Using direct thermal technology that doesn't require toner or
       | ink cartridges
       | 
       | If I understand correctly this is the same as receipt printers,
       | and I've come across articles in the past about the paper being
       | somewhat toxic versus regular paper.
        
         | p1mrx wrote:
         | So it's just a receipt printer in a different form factor?
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWlaT6Ge4Tw&t=492s
        
         | colechristensen wrote:
         | Yeah it's full of the hormone mimicking plasticizers implicated
         | in endocrine disruption.
        
           | ortusdux wrote:
           | BPA plastic, and in a very high concentration. I would like
           | to see medical research on high-exposure individuals. I would
           | guess that volatizing it until it discolors seconds before
           | handling might make it even more bioactive. I often see
           | cashers resting their hand on the printer while the receipt
           | prints through their fingers. It could very well be a class
           | action lawsuit in the making.
           | 
           | There are alternative papers that are considered safe. Keep
           | in mind that many BPA free products just switch over to BPS',
           | which are very similar and less understood.
           | 
           | https://ecochit.com/
        
             | jonahhorowitz wrote:
             | The NIH has a paper.
             | 
             | > Holding Thermal Receipt Paper and Eating Food after Using
             | Hand Sanitizer Results in High Serum Bioactive and Urine
             | Total Levels of Bisphenol A (BPA)
             | 
             | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4206219/
        
       | glennvtx wrote:
       | All it needs to do is make that awful dot matrix sound.
        
       | Ayesh wrote:
       | So, like a thermal receipt printer (often in 80mm width), but
       | wider?
       | 
       | Thermal receipts have their place. They are quite fast, and
       | maintenance is either you replace the paper roll, or throw away
       | the printer once its lifespan is over (usually about 50km on most
       | entry level models), small, and cheap enough to install a bunch
       | of them at every checkout lane, delivery driver, etc.
       | 
       | The downside is that the prints don't last. Try putting a tape on
       | the printed paper, and the print fades in a day or two. Even a
       | heat as small as running a nail with mild pressure on the paper
       | activates the ink.
       | 
       | If this were to be a serious contender, the real innovation has
       | to be the paper; not the printer.
        
         | colordrops wrote:
         | Isn't the paper also full of BPA?
        
           | jonah wrote:
           | They were, there are non-BPA paper options now. (But they're
           | probably just BPB or something else almost as bad.)
        
         | freedude wrote:
         | Yup. Exactly.
        
       | mbreese wrote:
       | Reminds me of a printer we had at home _many_ years ago. I'm
       | still not sure what it was best used for, but at least this model
       | didn't need thermal paper.
       | 
       | The Atari 1020: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_1020
       | 
       | It too had a continuous roll of paper, but used pens to draw.
       | Given that the article is talking about a single color thermal
       | printer, having a pen plotter makes just as much sense.
        
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