[HN Gopher] Living Like Nothing Matters
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       Living Like Nothing Matters
        
       Author : 5F7bGnd6fWJ66xN
       Score  : 10 points
       Date   : 2022-09-10 21:07 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | Razengan wrote:
       | Going through a shitty phase (which happens often) I've been
       | trying to cope in various ways, reaching high and low, inside and
       | outside, for meaning and purpose and guidance.
       | 
       | I don't subscribe to most existing models, not out of a
       | rebellious choice but because I cannot find or follow their logic
       | to a satisfactory conclusion.
       | 
       | So far this is what I have, make of it what you will:
       | 
       | * There must be a default state, and a part of it must reside in
       | everything built upon it. It doesn't make sense that something
       | began from Nothing, but I like to think that something began from
       | _Everything._
       | 
       | * But it doesn't mean that a superset system can control a subset
       | system 100% - Think of our relationship with computers and the
       | programs running on/in them, along with all the physics involved
       | and the virtual results.
       | 
       | * Veritasium's video on "Math's Fundamental Flaw" [0] was a good
       | source of inspiration: Shit may be coded with hard immutable
       | logic but still have virtually infinite possibilities.
       | 
       | * If you think your mind, or your "will" or "heart" or "soul",
       | matters in any way and can make any difference, try to find the
       | cutoff point between -where- that metaphysical quality _starts_ ,
       | what sets "you" apart from everything else: What's the difference
       | between you and every other person's mind/soul? Or a person's
       | mind and a computer program? The difference between a world with
       | no humans in it, and a world with 1 human? A barren asteroid and
       | a planet with life? Can a rock access the mysteries of the
       | Universe? Can you?
       | 
       | TL;DR: What you see right now may be what you will ever get,
       | everything may just be circumstance, but there -just might- be a
       | way to touch something greater.
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo&t=1772s
        
       | toomanyrichies wrote:
       | I've read books whose gist is the same point this author makes,
       | and I agree it's such a freeing realization.
       | 
       | Out of the estimated 117 billion[1] humans who have walked the
       | Earth, how many who have died can we actually name off the top of
       | our heads? A few hundred at best? Maybe a few thousand if you're
       | a history buff? And of that group, how many will still be
       | remembered at the heat death of the universe? I'd bet money that
       | the answer is "none of them".
       | 
       | So what's the point of trying to be remembered or leave a legacy?
       | It's a game that we're destined to lose, so why play? Personally,
       | I don't care how big my gravestone is, or whether I have my name
       | on the side of a building, or whether I have an element in the
       | periodic table named after me. Because it'll all come crumbling
       | down in the end. This too shall pass.
       | 
       | And rather than being depressing, it's actually liberating. It
       | means I'm done climbing the corporate ladder. It means I can work
       | just hard enough to pay the bills at my day job, while leaving
       | ample free time to engage with creative pursuits that satisfy me.
       | It means I can have kids if it makes me happy, but I don't feel
       | pressured to out of a sense of "continuing the family line" or
       | some other bullshit.
       | 
       | No matter how hard I try, literally nothing you or I do will be
       | remembered on a long enough timespan. Hell, I don't even know the
       | names of my great-grandparents, and chances are that, if I ever
       | have kids, my great-grandkids won't remember mine. It's like Carl
       | Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" quote[2]. I don't know what the meaning
       | of life is, but I'm pretty sure it's not "try to wrest some sort
       | of immortality by being remembered after you're gone".
       | 
       | 1. https://www.prb.org/articles/how-many-people-have-ever-
       | lived....
       | 
       | 2. https://www.planetary.org/worlds/pale-blue-dot
        
         | Bubble_Pop_22 wrote:
         | > so why play?
         | 
         | Projected or perceived legacy after passing is correlated with
         | level of consumption while alive.
         | 
         | Always has and always will be. Roman Emperors, Kings etc. they
         | got to be on coins and have monuments erected after them after
         | their death, AND at the same time they were the person with the
         | most conspicous consumption in the whole country while still
         | alive.
         | 
         | Case in point: Queen Elizabeth II.
        
           | toomanyrichies wrote:
           | Consumption seems like a never-ending treadmill of its own.
           | I'm quite the foodie, but I've made peace with the fact that
           | there will always be more restaurants out there than I can
           | possibly hope to dine at during my lifetime. You could say
           | the same thing about music, art, etc.
           | 
           | It's like Bud Fox said in the movie "Wall Street"- "How many
           | yachts can you water-ski behind?"
        
           | swatcoder wrote:
           | I don't see how that answers the question. Or are you saying
           | that the answer is "to consume a lot"?
        
             | Bubble_Pop_22 wrote:
             | To consume a lot of high quality things and experiences.
        
       | chasing wrote:
       | ...and then you have kids.
        
         | Razengan wrote:
         | Like every other organism ever
        
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