[HN Gopher] Drop in Cloudflare Replacement
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       Drop in Cloudflare Replacement
        
       Having trouble finding a drop-in replacement for Cloudflare. Any
       suggestions?  - CacheFly has no easy trial to sign up for - Fastly
       has no DNS - CDN77 has no DNS - Google, Amazon, Azure are stand
       alone CDN  There doesn't seem to be a good alternative? Or, am I
       missing something?
        
       Author : ivanstegic
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2022-09-15 22:03 UTC (57 minutes ago)
        
       | christophilus wrote:
       | It depends on why you use them. I use BunnyCDN which is fine for
       | my usage. I use my own video transcoding servers (hosted on
       | Netcup for suuuper cheap). I use Render for my applications. I
       | use Cloudflare for a proxy, but could probably replace it in a
       | week or so using Go + Caddy + a VPS of some kind and it would
       | probably be fine for my use case.
       | 
       | It really depends on your use case and volume.
        
         | ivanstegic wrote:
         | I need something I can pay a fair amount for, that provides DNS
         | service and HTML and file asset acceleration. I want to switch
         | the proxy on, let it offload as much of the traffic from the
         | original source server as possible, and forget about it. My
         | clients should be able to control their DNS on their own, on
         | let us do it for them. They should only have access to their
         | own domains.
        
       | ivanstegic wrote:
       | bunny.net keeps coming up, that's great! any takes on CacheFly?
        
       | alberth wrote:
       | Which functionality from Cloudflare do you need? They have quite
       | of few offerings.
        
         | ivanstegic wrote:
         | oh, also: separate accounts with domains per account so my
         | clients can access their own set of domains. I need some sort
         | of separation of permissions.
        
         | latchkey wrote:
         | Or, what's wrong with CF?
        
           | MacsHeadroom wrote:
           | Centralization, censorship, not supporting competition, etc.
        
             | rsstack wrote:
             | - How can a business, specifically a CDN, not be
             | centralized?
             | 
             | - Your business, your values, you're of course free to
             | ignore Cloudflare if you disagree with their policies.
             | 
             | - What kind of support are they supposed to give their
             | competitors that they aren't?
        
         | ivanstegic wrote:
         | Honestly, it's the DNS and whole HTML/File assets caching and
         | acceleration that it provides.
        
           | yamtaddle wrote:
           | If you're willing to have two logins rather than one, your
           | options are practically limitless. Get DNS from one provider,
           | CDN from another, problem solved. There's even a decent
           | chance your registrar offers DNS, which means you're _not_
           | adding an extra login (unless CloudFlare 's also your
           | registrar)
           | 
           | If you must have DNS bundled with the other stuff, your
           | options are... way less limitless.
        
             | ivanstegic wrote:
             | I am OK with separating it out. It's much easier to manage
             | for a larger number of clients though. That's why!
        
               | yamtaddle wrote:
               | Some providers of DNS and/or CDN have configuration Web
               | APIs that can make managing multiple service providers
               | less painful, especially if you're already scripting a
               | lot of your other configuration (virtual machine
               | deployments & config, or what have you)
        
       | izzytcp wrote:
       | You won't, unfortunately Cloudflare has no direct competitors.
        
       | rmdoss wrote:
       | A couple that I know:
       | 
       | Sucuri: DNS, WAF and CDN
       | 
       | NOC.org: DNS, WAF and CDN
        
         | ivanstegic wrote:
         | noc.org looked great to me, then I started clicking around and
         | all I got what raw PHP files! for example, the homepage:
         | 
         | <?php
         | 
         | $content_canonical = "https://noc.org/"; $content_ogtype =
         | "website";
         | 
         | include "includes/header.php"; ?> <!-- Mashead header-->
         | <header class="masthead"> <div class="container px-5"> <div
         | class="row gx-5 align-items-center"> <div class="col-lg-6">
         | <!-- Mashead text and app badges--> <div class="mb-5 mb-lg-0
         | text-center text-lg-start">
        
       | mdasen wrote:
       | I think having separate DNS from your CDN isn't that big a deal,
       | but bunny.net will combine both. Their DNS is currently in
       | preview (open preview to anyone), but it looks like it'll be
       | offering what you want.
       | 
       | Cloudflare has been taking a more expansive view of a CDN, but
       | bunny.net seems to be going in that direction as well. They're
       | offering CDN, DNS, storage, and video so far.
        
         | yamtaddle wrote:
         | > Cloudflare has been taking a more expansive view of a CDN,
         | but bunny.net seems to be going in that direction as well.
         | They're offering CDN, DNS, storage, and video so far.
         | 
         | I think most CDNs are at least _trying_ to do this. I suspect
         | the margins on nice-to-haves attached to CDN are way higher
         | than heavily-commidified CDN on its own. Plus it gives you a
         | deeper moat and much stronger lock-in.
        
       | freedom-fries wrote:
       | > Google, Amazon, Azure are stand alone CDN
       | 
       | Not really sure what exactly you are looking for and at what
       | price point, but Google and AWS both have domain registration and
       | WW highly available DNS services.
        
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