[HN Gopher] Self-hostable maps stack, powered by OpenStreetMap
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       Self-hostable maps stack, powered by OpenStreetMap
        
       Author : taubek
       Score  : 106 points
       Date   : 2022-09-17 08:29 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | mistrial9 wrote:
       | real admins use mapnik
       | 
       | https://github.com/mapnik
        
         | klysm wrote:
         | No true Scotsman
        
       | josteink wrote:
       | While I don't see the need for this project myself, I appreciate
       | how it is very specific hardware needs for both building and
       | running it.
       | 
       | That sort of upfront info can save a lot of work down the line.
       | Props for putting in the effort.
        
       | metadat wrote:
       | All it needs is a mobile app.. could finally stop constantly
       | sharing location data to Big-G and Apple.
        
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         | 411111111111111 wrote:
         | Not really. OSMand has been around for ages if all you want is
         | navigation with open street maps.
         | 
         | But that's really not what we want from a maps app, issit?
         | 
         | We want intelligent location data like searching for
         | "groceries" and we want to know wherever the location is
         | currently open etc.
         | 
         | While I hope that - eventually - open street map can fill that
         | need, it can't today.
        
           | habi wrote:
           | https://organicmaps.app/ Can search for ,,groceries" around
           | you and shows the opening hours of any shops (that have added
           | the data to OpenStreetMap)
        
           | lucb1e wrote:
           | OsmAnd can search for supermarkets and show opening hours in
           | the search results.
           | 
           | Screenshot: https://dro.pm/d.png (expires 18 hours after this
           | comment was posted)
           | 
           | It's a data problem more than a software problem. A shop
           | owner would be stupid if they don't want to appear in google
           | search results with business information nicely presented on
           | a card, and in doing so, they automatically put themselves on
           | Google's map. Fast forward a few years of business owners
           | doing this, and Google Maps is a superb directory where also
           | the consumers flock to (previously they'd look for geo data
           | with different providers such as TomTom). Now both sides are
           | going there and only open data enthusiasts care about any
           | alternatives that might exist.
           | 
           | What amazes me is that OpenStreetMap wins in basically every
           | other category of map data (in most places of most
           | countries). Not the real-time streams like traffic and public
           | transport delays (OSM simply does not support that) but any
           | geo data like streets, paths, power lines, benches, etc.
           | There is also a push from basically every company except
           | Google to use and improve OpenStreetMap data (Facebook,
           | Microsoft, Apple, etc., with various governments involved as
           | well).
           | 
           | We just need to somehow get these business locations more
           | complete and current to be able to ditch Google entirely, for
           | those that want to.
        
             | y4mi wrote:
             | I sometimes wish companies were required to report their
             | opening hours when registering and the state made this
             | information available through a public api.
             | 
             | It's not really possible as not all place have scheduled
             | opening and closing times... But a dude can dream, right?
        
         | account-5 wrote:
         | I use OsmAnd~ on mobile. Works perfectly. Obviously doesn't do
         | traffic.
        
         | zaik wrote:
         | If you just want a polished offline maps app based on
         | OpenStreetMap data checkout https://organicmaps.app/
        
           | noirbot wrote:
           | I really love Organic Maps. My biggest wish is that its
           | bookmarking/tagging system for places was a little bit
           | better. For how cluttered Google Maps has gotten, it's still
           | the only maps app I've used that does a good job of letting
           | me tag and categorize every lunch spot I like, or every bar
           | someone's ever recommended to me, or that donut shop I tried
           | once years ago. Having a quick and easy geospatial map of my
           | personal points of interest is invaluable to deciding where I
           | want to stay in a city, or remembering places across various
           | trips.
           | 
           | Organic Maps lets you star things, but without much for non-
           | menu intensive categorization. And then when you go back to
           | look around a city with your starred places later, it decides
           | to make them about a 5px red circle until you zoom in so far
           | it's showing you more information than you'd ever want to
           | know about the zoning plan for every building on the street.
           | 
           | It's partially the classic OSS problem. The people who want
           | to not have the clutter of Google Maps have a high overlap
           | with the sort of people who want the app to ultimately give
           | them _as much information as possible_ if they keep zooming
           | in. To what someone else put in this comment section, some of
           | the value of Google Maps is that they have a good idea of
           | what businesses on a given street you actually care about.
           | OSM will often show me in big text that, instead of the
           | coffee shop I 'm looking for, I could go to a stone
           | wholesaler that's 3 doors down.
        
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           | ForHackernews wrote:
           | If you want them to continue existing, contribute!
           | https://organicmaps.app/support-us/
        
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