[HN Gopher] Your work matters - Build your schedule accordingly
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       Your work matters - Build your schedule accordingly
        
       Author : yarapavan
       Score  : 113 points
       Date   : 2022-09-21 15:57 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | cgrealy wrote:
       | Eh, I'm at the point in my life where a more relevant title would
       | be "your life matters - if some work happens to get done, that's
       | a bonus"
        
       | LesZedCB wrote:
       | i would prefer not to
       | 
       | this whole story sounds like the "before" segment of an article
       | on burnout.
        
       | Swizec wrote:
       | A quote I'll never forget: "Productivity is for people with no
       | leverage"
       | 
       | The correct way to optimize your schedule is to do less
        
         | dangarbri3 wrote:
         | How to get leverage
        
           | skadamat wrote:
           | One of Cal's earlier books is ALL about this:
           | 
           | https://www.calnewport.com/books/so-good/
        
           | extrememacaroni wrote:
           | reduce dependency on other people
        
             | manholio wrote:
             | Leverage, by definition, is having others depend on you.
        
           | teucris wrote:
           | Be the one holding the purse strings.
        
           | jasonjmcghee wrote:
           | Gain experience, conviction, credibility, and wisdom.
           | 
           | Make decisions.
           | 
           | Drive initiatives.
        
         | Ancalagon wrote:
         | Propose changing the title: "Your work matters (probably mostly
         | for someone else) ..."
        
         | bot41 wrote:
         | That's a great quote!
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | jcowdy wrote:
       | I'm a big fan of Cal Newport. His overarching theme is to be
       | intentional about how you use your time. If you aren't
       | specifically planning and blocking your schedule, it will turn
       | into a fragmented mess and not allow you to get in the deep
       | thinking periods that many projects require. This is a good
       | reminder that you may need to advocate for yourself (and work
       | with your partner) to establish these slots in your schedule.
        
       | WesleyLivesay wrote:
       | I think the theory of this article is fine, but the solution of
       | sacrificing weekend time with family to eek out some time for
       | work goals feels bad to me. It also involves pushing more child
       | care onto the partner in the relationship, when it sounds like
       | they are already sacrificing large chunks of their time on a
       | commute so that the family can live close to the researchers
       | place of work.
        
         | musicale wrote:
         | Replacing non-work time on the weekend (especially time with
         | children or a partner, or personal time) with work seems like a
         | bad idea.
         | 
         | Moreover, from years of personal experience, I have found that
         | working on weekends doesn't seem to improve productivity and is
         | harmful to health and happiness.
        
           | anothernewdude wrote:
           | What I do, is schedule work tasks on the weekend that I know
           | won't matter if they're not done, and then not do them. Works
           | out great.
        
       | PragmaticPulp wrote:
       | > Turning her attention to the weekend, Elizabeth arranged for
       | her husband to take the kids from 12:00 to 4:00 every Saturday,
       | freeing up another four-hour research block.
       | 
       | Being deliberate about schedule management is great.
       | 
       | However, my goal with schedule management is to get work done
       | during the work week so I can spend _more_ time with my kids, not
       | carve out a large chunk of the weekend to avoid the kids while I
       | work more.
       | 
       | There were some decent points in this article, but it really
       | needed some better examples. Obviously parents can get more work
       | done if we conveniently have our spouses watch the kids alone
       | every weekend while we work more on Saturday, but I didn't really
       | need a long blog post to tell me that. Nor do I want it.
       | 
       | Realistically, I've found a lot of success in being more ruthless
       | about my own schedule management: Withdrawing from meetings I
       | don't need to be in. Requesting smaller 30-minute time slots
       | where people unnecessarily schedule 1-hour meetings. Leaving
       | meetings entirely if the scheduler doesn't show up within 5
       | minutes of the start time, sending them an e-mail asking to
       | reschedule when they're available. Forcing meetings into e-mails
       | when they don't need to be a meeting. Requesting agendas and pre-
       | work before meetings so we avoid design by committee. Implemented
       | tactfully, these can squeeze out a lot of the time wasters that
       | happen during the course of a week. I'd much rather do things
       | like that than to give up and work weekends.
        
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       | voxmatt wrote:
       | Plug for https://www.getclockwise.com/
       | 
       | Cal's writing has been a key source of inspiration for what we
       | build.
        
       | skadamat wrote:
       | Cal's key ideas for the uninitiated:
       | 
       | - Deep Life: Kind of like essentialism / minimalism: Be
       | intentional & focus on results / remove what matters. Create 5
       | pillars for your life, and work fits into it:
       | https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2020/04/20/cultivating-a-dee...
       | 
       | - Deep Work: do one thing at a time, in a focused way. Context
       | switching is expensive on the brain and stressful / anxiety
       | inducing
       | 
       | - Career Advice (So Good They Can't Ignore You book): become
       | great at a skill or the intersection of multiple skills. When you
       | become good, you'll learn to love it and you can trade in your
       | expertise for more lifestyle traits (more pay or less hours or no
       | boss)
       | 
       | His podcast is awesome too: https://www.calnewport.com/podcast/
        
         | molsongolden wrote:
         | Any favorite podcast episodes you'd recommend for someone
         | listening for the first time?
        
           | sorry_i_lisp wrote:
           | I think using the Core Ideas Playlist and starting there
           | would be good: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8xK8kB
           | HHUX43VVxO3b7s...
           | 
           | I have never listened to a podcast, just the cut out snippts
           | on the youtube channel.
        
           | skadamat wrote:
           | Good question!
           | 
           | 1. Deep Life Principles:
           | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-204-deep-life-
           | princ...
           | 
           | 2. Decoding the Deep Life:
           | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-200-decoding-the-
           | de...
           | 
           | 3. Quieting the Ambitious Brain:
           | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-199-quieting-an-
           | amb...
           | 
           | 4. Fun experimental episode on Shop Class as Soulcraft:
           | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-116-re-reading-
           | shop...
           | 
           | Also as the person below me pointed out, the Core Ideas
           | playlist is great: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8x
           | K8kBHHUX43VVxO3b7s...
           | 
           | Most of them have the same format (except the last one
           | above):
           | 
           | - Deep dive into a topic he's thinking about
           | 
           | - Listener questions
           | 
           | - Once a month update on books he's read
        
             | tomcam wrote:
             | Love this kind of curation. Thanks
        
       | fhrow4484 wrote:
       | > Your work matters. It's okay to fight for it in your schedule.
       | 
       | Nice conclusion, but half of the solution in this article is to
       | work "12:00 to 4:00 every Saturday"...
       | 
       | Does your work matter that much that you have to sacrifice every
       | weekends?
       | 
       | My 2C/: fight harder to carve time during weekdays instead
        
         | majikandy wrote:
         | I think it really means fight hard to get the time, and
         | choosing any time in particular doesn't matter, weekend or
         | weekday is irrelevant, it is just an agreement with yourself
         | and those close to you that those times are reserved, a bit
         | like sleep at say 11pm to 7am is non negotiable (unless you
         | choose to).
        
         | mgkimsal wrote:
         | If... you're being intentional about your time/schedule, do
         | 'weekends' matter as much?
         | 
         | EDIT: I can understand 'kids' aspect. Outside of that, if I'm
         | doing the things I want to do at the times I want to do them,
         | the notion of 'weekend=do_what_i_want' isn't as compelling. I
         | try to schedule in things I want to do when I want, weekends be
         | damned.
        
           | david_allison wrote:
           | Aside from kids: it's much easier to meet friends who have a
           | 9-5 schedule on weekends
        
           | drainyard wrote:
           | If you have children weekends are incredibly important.
        
             | manmal wrote:
             | Only if you are unavailable on week days.
        
               | cgrealy wrote:
               | Even if you're available weekdays, the kids are not
               | (they're in school)
        
           | UncleOxidant wrote:
           | > do 'weekends' matter as much?
           | 
           | I guess I would be fine if I was trading those 4 hours of
           | freetime I normally would get on Saturday for 4 hours on a
           | weekday. But that doesn't seem to be what's being suggested.
           | 
           | Also, given the nature of how our days are organized in
           | society, there tend to be events that happen on the weekends
           | that do not happen on week days to accommodate people's work
           | schedules - concerts in the park, community events, social
           | events, etc. so moving some of your work to the weekends will
           | mean you could miss out on those.
        
           | the_af wrote:
           | Yes, weekends matter a lot because it's your time with
           | family, leisure and friends. Weekends matter if your life is
           | not owned by the company where you work.
        
             | ok_dad wrote:
             | Weekends only matter as much as you argue here if your
             | company owns your ass 9-5 Mon-Fri (plus commute,
             | sometimes). If you're able to be more flexible, it's nice
             | to go out when everyone else is working.
             | 
             | I understand your point, though, I work max 30-35 hours a
             | week, often on weekends, and spend as much time as I can
             | with my son and wife.
        
       | DoingIsLearning wrote:
       | I like a lot of ideas from Cal Newport but there is something
       | wrong with our work culture when working on the weekend is now
       | seen as a productivity hack.
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | I didn't realize this is where Newport was going. Most of what
         | I've read of him in the past advocates for getting off of
         | social media to gain control over your time - which I think is
         | good advice.
         | 
         | I'd recommend Oliver Burkeman's _Four Thousand Weeks: Time
         | management for mortals_ as it 's very different from the
         | productivity-oriented time management books that tend to
         | dominate the genre.
        
           | DoughnutHole wrote:
           | It's always worth remembering that Cal is an academic - a
           | culture in which it is considered virtuous for your work to
           | be your life, or at the very least the defining element of
           | it.
           | 
           | This is a source of a lot of the ongoing exploitive or
           | outright abusive behaviours and treatments of those on the
           | lower rungs of the academic totem pole that are frankly
           | endemic in most institutions.
        
             | cjpearson wrote:
             | He is an academic, but in Deep Work he argues that
             | excessive working hours are not necessary for success in
             | the field, using himself and a few other academics as
             | examples of successful academics who've achieved both a
             | work-life balance and tenure.
             | 
             | I assume that the weekdays which Elizabeth spends caring
             | for her children are not spent working at the same time.
             | She has an unusual schedule, but I doubt she works
             | excessive hours. A big part of Deep Work is quality over
             | quantity.
        
             | phist_mcgee wrote:
             | Academia is feudalism with an intellectual veneer.
             | 
             | Source: Academic for 5 years.
        
         | ok_dad wrote:
         | I actually work half days during the week often, and then work
         | part of the day on Saturday and/or Sunday. This allows me to
         | work with my head down on a weekend day without co-workers
         | messaging me, and the same for working early in the mornings on
         | weekends when my family is still asleep. This actually allows
         | me, personally, more flexibility on weekdays to go out with my
         | family when there aren't as many people out and about, and go
         | with my wife to our son's medical appointments and other
         | important things like that.
         | 
         | I wouldn't advocate everyone can or should do this, but I think
         | that the "don't work outside working hours"/"must work during
         | working hours" status quo can hurt flexibility a lot.
         | Personally, weekends to me are just another day of the week,
         | and I want to try normalize that wherever I go.
        
           | DoingIsLearning wrote:
           | > This allows me to work with my head down on a weekend day
           | without co-workers messaging me
           | 
           | I appreciate that this works for you but to me this comes
           | across more as an issue with work boundaries more than the
           | benefits of weekend work.
           | 
           | Advocate for 'no-meeting days' multiple times in the week.
           | Advocate for blocks of half-days in the work week where the
           | whole team goes radio silence. We implemented this in both
           | the team I am working in now and in my previous gig.
           | 
           | Managers will absolutely defend the team's time like this if
           | you pitch it constructively and the team delivers results to
           | back it up.
        
             | wombat-man wrote:
             | If you can go offline for half a day then I would think
             | that you could block out "focus time" on your schedule.
             | Some of my coworkers do this, and I do too from time to
             | time.
        
         | skadamat wrote:
         | Eh, if you listen to his podcast episode you'll see that's not
         | quite what he's advocating. He's advocating for intentionality
         | and to design your life with work as a part of it. For some
         | people that could mean that doing a creative work project on a
         | Saturday is the best way to do that.
         | 
         | His points are way more nuanced than "work on weekends". I
         | think he mentions Laura's story as a case study in
         | intentionality, not in "work life balance" etc
        
         | jonas21 wrote:
         | She's working partial days on Mon, Tues, and Fri, full days
         | (and perhaps a bit more) on Wed and Thurs, and a 4-hour block
         | on the weekend.
         | 
         | It sounds like our work culture is doing a pretty good job at
         | giving her the flexibility to schedule work around the rest of
         | her life.
        
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