[HN Gopher] Japan to reopen to independent travelers and lift da...
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       Japan to reopen to independent travelers and lift daily arrival cap
        
       Author : weissbier
       Score  : 145 points
       Date   : 2022-09-22 19:22 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.japantimes.co.jp)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.japantimes.co.jp)
        
       | tamiral wrote:
       | This will make a day layover for a trip much simpler !
        
       | kaycebasques wrote:
       | Road trip across Japan is quickly moving to the top of my bucket
       | list? Has anyone done it? How was it? Must see stops?
        
         | TT-392 wrote:
         | If you get to hiroshima, visit okinomimura.
        
         | kadoban wrote:
         | Train trips mostly fit Japan better, and it's more relaxing.
         | 
         | Kyoto is an amazing place, Tokyo is a must, and Mount Fuji is
         | quite nice. I've heard Osaka is cool, but I've never been.
         | Beyond that, specifics depend on what you're into.
         | 
         | My favorite bits were generally the food, temples, museums,
         | onsen and just wandering around shopping districts and taking
         | it all in.
        
           | bobthepanda wrote:
           | Also, Japan has fairly high road tolls, so driving adds up
           | fast. And there's not really free street parking either.
        
             | dzhiurgis wrote:
             | Travelling by train kinda becomes boring after a while,
             | hence I'll go for a car next time.
        
         | dzhiurgis wrote:
         | Ryokan in Kyoto is a must. Also, if you spend enough time -
         | don't just do Shinkansen all the time. It gets boring pretty
         | quick as you are moving from one big city to another. Rent a
         | car for some time too!
        
         | cbracken wrote:
         | Edit: for some reason I'd interpreted the question as being
         | about cycling. Leaving in case it's useful for cyclists or
         | motorcyclists.
         | 
         | I've done a lot of cycling across various bits of Japan, from
         | shorter day trips on the order of 150km to longer 1000km+
         | trips. One thing to keep in mind for visiting cyclists on
         | longer road trips: this may seem obvious but Japan is very
         | mountainous which means a lot of narrow roads with little/no
         | shoulder, and long (sometimes multi-kilometre) tunnels.
         | Fortunately drivers are in general, very considerate and
         | careful around cyclists.
         | 
         | For shorter day trips, many large rivers/lakes in Japan have
         | cycling/walking paths along one or both sides and make for
         | really nice riding. In Tokyo, the Tamagawa or in Kyoto Kamogawa
         | and Katsuragawa have paths. Lake Biwa has a really nice cycling
         | trail as well.
         | 
         | One of my favourite longer routes was along the north coast of
         | Japan between Tsuruga and the north end of Fukui. The mountain
         | pass along no. 8 through Takefu has some nice views but a lot
         | of climbing and tunnels. For something shorter but pretty,
         | follow the Tamagawa from Tokyo up to Lake Okutama. As someone
         | else mentioned, I find travelling in rural Japan a lot nicer
         | than cycling in/near big cities.
        
         | siquick wrote:
         | I did a one month vinyl record shopping trip in Hiroshima,
         | Kyoto, Osaka, and Tokyo a few years ago by train.
         | 
         | Hiroshima was my favourite city. Considering what happened
         | there, it had a really peaceful vibe and the city rebuild in
         | the affected areas is great.
        
         | Klonoar wrote:
         | Define "across" Japan. North/South or East/West?
         | 
         | I did Kanazawa to Tokyo some years ago, fun trip.
        
         | impendia wrote:
         | I've traveled extensively in Japan and very highly recommend
         | it.
         | 
         | I especially recommend a long walk in rural or small-town
         | Japan. Perhaps the best one-day option is the Yamanobe Road
         | 
         | https://www.japan.travel/en/destinations/kansai/nara/the-yam...
         | 
         | which is breathtaking. You pass ancient tombs, temples, and
         | shrines -- you will have beautiful mountains to your east and
         | even more beautiful small towns to your west. If you've seen
         | _My Neighbor Totoro_ , imagine that it was brought to life and
         | you got to spend all day walking through it. It's fairly easy
         | to get to from Nara, Osaka, or Kyoto.
         | 
         | If you have more time, the classic long-distance walk in Japan
         | is the Henro-michi in Shikoku, aka the Shikoku pilgrimage.
         | 
         | https://shikoku-tourism.com/en/shikoku-henro/shikoku-henro
         | 
         | I did it on foot over 58 days, and it was absolutely the
         | experience of a lifetime. Even if you don't have two months,
         | just a few days on the trail will showcase rural Japan at its
         | most beautiful, and the Japanese people at their friendliest
         | and most welcoming.
         | 
         | Oh -- and I've driven in Japan, but you'll probably want to get
         | around by train instead, the mass transit is the best in the
         | world.
        
           | TechnicolorByte wrote:
           | Those two rural/small town walks you mentioned: can they be
           | accessed without driving?
        
             | impendia wrote:
             | Yes. The Yamanobe Road is easier to get to, the endpoints
             | are each close to train stations (Tenri on the north end,
             | Sakurai on the south). These are well connected to Nara and
             | Osaka. Alternatively, you can start at Sakurai and walk all
             | the way north to Nara (about 30 km).
             | 
             | The henro-michi is harder to get to, because Shikoku in
             | general is harder to get to. If coming from Kobe or Osaka,
             | you'll probably want to take a bus to Naruto, Tokushima, or
             | Takamatsu. (Naruto if you're starting from the beginning.)
             | A bit more of a schlep, but still not bad.
             | 
             | If doing these walks, then not driving is a big advantage
             | -- because you don't have to worry about where you parked
             | your car! In particular, you don't need to end at the same
             | place you began.
        
         | lemoncookiechip wrote:
         | I would recommend you give
         | https://www.youtube.com/c/AbroadinJapan a watch. Chris has been
         | all over every Japanese prefecture multiple times, and he
         | usually records places that aren't the kind of places you'd see
         | on a quick Google Search or trip advisor.
         | 
         | He has biked across Japan in his season 1 of Journey Across
         | Japan, he showcases all kinds of hotels, capsule hotels,
         | Ryokans (Japanese inns), etc, in every video. It's just a great
         | way to learn about Japan, it's culture, food, what dos and
         | don'ts.
        
       | yuan43 wrote:
       | I wonder to what extent this reflects desperation for foreign
       | currency (especially dollars) given the recent intervention by
       | BoJ to stop the yen's freefall.
       | 
       | https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/boj-keep-ultra-low-rate...
       | 
       | My guess is that this would be a drop in the bucket, but who
       | knows?
        
         | mdorazio wrote:
         | Japanese economists are at least hopeful it will help:
         | https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/18/business/japane...
        
         | kmlevitt wrote:
         | Can't find the link at the moment, but some economists in Japan
         | think it would have a real impact. Tourism has been a major
         | industry for Japan in the last decade, and all those tourists
         | buy up lots of yen for their trips.
        
         | bobthepanda wrote:
         | I haven't been following this.
         | 
         | This is very interesting considering most Japanese economic
         | policy has been an attempt to reverse deflation or stagnation.
         | Now it's inflating too fast?
        
       | abc_lisper wrote:
       | What's the catch? Can anyone visit Japan without a visa? People
       | of any country?
        
         | hunterb123 wrote:
         | No just the countries that previously didn't need a visa.
        
         | Wohlf wrote:
         | It's only a return to the previous norm.
        
           | karaokeyoga wrote:
           | "On Sept. 7, the government allowed those on nonguided tours
           | who had booked their flights and hotels through registered
           | travel agencies." - is the "through registered travel
           | agencies" portion dropped now as well? I couldn't discern
           | that from the article.
        
       | ilarum wrote:
       | Does this mean tourists don't need a visa for Japan anymore?
       | Including people with traditionally "weaker" passports like
       | Uganda, India, etc.? The article linked elsewhere in the comments
       | is not clear on this.
        
         | bobthepanda wrote:
         | Probably not. It sounds like they are lifting COVID era
         | restrictions on travel (you could only do pre-arranged tours
         | with strict itineraries)
        
         | eloisius wrote:
         | Probably not. So far, after COVID, Japan is "open" but only if
         | you go as part of a tour group. You can't just land and get
         | visa-free entry to go backpacking around. It sounds like that's
         | what's changing.
        
       | humanistbot wrote:
       | Please don't link to a newspaper's tweet when they have an actual
       | story:
       | https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/23/national/kishid...
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Ok, we'll changed to that from
         | https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1572962383252934656
         | above. Thanks!
        
         | mortenjorck wrote:
         | The headline, "Japan to reopen to independent travelers and
         | lift daily arrival cap," is also a more relevant framing, in
         | that the "visa-free" part is a return to the pre-pandemic
         | status quo, not some novel customs policy as some other
         | comments are interpreting it.
        
       | Laaas wrote:
       | Japan HN meet-up?
        
       | orblivion wrote:
       | This reminded me to check on Canada as I periodically do, and it
       | looks like they also just made a related announcement today:
       | they're ending vaccine requirements for the border at the end of
       | the month: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/government-lifting-
       | pandemic...
       | 
       | I've previously been misdirected here, since they have different
       | rules for vacationers vs business travelers or something like
       | that. But, this sounds like a blanket lift of restrictions.
        
       | gailees wrote:
       | What's your favorite snowy mountain onsen in Japan? Thinking of
       | going to meditate for ten days for New Years.
        
       | immigrantheart wrote:
       | Nooooooooooo, I was about to go to Japan this November, using my
       | iPhone 14 Pro to take pictures of Japan with less
       | tourists...............
       | 
       | With special privilege that's not available for regular tourist
       | of course.
        
         | JTbane wrote:
         | something something tragedy of the commons
        
           | immigrantheart wrote:
           | yeah thankfully I am asocial.
        
         | hunterb123 wrote:
         | Yeah all of those pesky tourists always taking pictures with
         | their iPhone 14 Pros, oh wait...
        
           | immigrantheart wrote:
           | Loooll, thankfully I am not your average tourist.
        
             | netsharc wrote:
             | Feels like everyone thinks they're not the average tourist.
             | Ok well the average tourist is really the tour bus, get
             | off, take photos, back on the bus kind. But are you the
             | average "not-average tourist" ;)
        
               | immigrantheart wrote:
               | I mean as in I could get special visa.
        
               | hunterb123 wrote:
               | So in your mind it's not your behavior that sets you
               | apart as a tourist, but your ability to get a special
               | visa?
               | 
               | Personally, someone going with the main purpose to take
               | photos of a place is the most touristy of tourists.
               | 
               | Even when I visit a place like Japan for 3 months, I
               | barely take photos because it takes you out of it and you
               | get in the way.
               | 
               | Take enough photos to capture key memories and places but
               | mainly enjoy the actual adventure.
               | 
               | To not be a tourist in my mind you should be living
               | there, not trying to document it.
               | 
               | But to each their own how they want to live, I just
               | wanted to rant on your rant.
        
       | maldev wrote:
       | This is awesome! Me and a few friends were planning a trip, but
       | their old policy was really confusing and I couldn't find good
       | guidance on it, most of it contradictory. Hopefully they see a
       | big boost, I imagine their hospitality sectors got hammered.
        
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       | warabe wrote:
       | To fellow American HN people.
       | 
       | Right now USD/JPY is around 145, and it was about 100 in 2020,
       | which means almost 30% discount for everything! (Please note that
       | CPI of Japan is not so high)
       | 
       | Come to Japan, and enjoy!
        
         | suggestion wrote:
         | Any advice or resources for someone seriously considering this?
        
         | TrainedMonkey wrote:
         | USD/JPY purchasing power ratio change between 2020 and 2022 is
         | even better than 30% because Japanese inflation is so low:
         | https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/inflation-cpi
        
         | karaokeyoga wrote:
         | ... and it was below 77 in 2012, ten short years ago.
        
       | golemiprague wrote:
        
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