[HN Gopher] Luxury Media
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       Luxury Media
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 56 points
       Date   : 2022-09-22 20:00 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | yrgulation wrote:
       | I used to pay for the MIT Tech Review printed magazine until i
       | realised its basically useless, devoid of novelty and everything
       | in it could be found online. I see no benefit in printed
       | magazines, they follow the exact same trends and chase the exact
       | same outrage as online.
        
         | reidjs wrote:
         | I don't think anyone is trying to claim that magazines are
         | educational. They have some entertainment value and I'll take
         | any excuse to not stare at a screen for a few hours.
        
       | chazeon wrote:
       | I once subscribed to a paper magazine. But since like the second
       | month, I found I never read it, barely have time for it. Those
       | paper just goes straight to the trash. It's luxury in the sense
       | that a lot of waste is created in the process of consumption. But
       | on-demand printing might solve the problem.
        
       | bigmattystyles wrote:
       | WRT to
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       | >> 11. In fact: No. Popups. Ever.
       | 
       | Not quite for me, I do find the little subscription card inserts
       | within magazines very annoying. I have to rip them out and they
       | always tear awfully, bending the spine of magazine.
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | next he 'll discover that radio shows are better than podcasts
        
         | themagician wrote:
         | This is a little quip, but IMO radio shows often are much
         | better than today's "podcasts."
         | 
         | It feels like a majority of what people call podcasts today are
         | just random people talking to each other, often impromptu. It's
         | often by people with no interview skills and no sense for how
         | to produce engaging radio. And, more often than not, it feels
         | like background noise. Sometimes that's enjoyable, but honestly
         | if that's what I'm looking for I'll just listen to Howard
         | Stern, the BBC or NPR.
         | 
         | What I loved about podcasts was that it was a medium which
         | allowed for really great radio drama and storytelling. For the
         | longest time what a podcast was, to me, was Radiolab, This
         | American Life, Serial, The Moth, The Truth, etc.. Something
         | with some real sound design behind it... where someone is
         | trying to create something both engaging and enjoyable to
         | listen to. When podcasts started to blow up after Serial I
         | really hoped that we'd get more of that. But it seems like what
         | we've gotten is a proliferation of random people just...
         | rambling.
         | 
         | This makes me sound pretentious AF but I really do not
         | understand why people listen to some of this stuff. Every now
         | and then I'll listen to something new in the top 20 list and
         | well... I think I'm getting to the "back in my day we walked up
         | hills both way" age now, but man... the majority of today's
         | podcasts are really bad. Like, physically painful to actually
         | listen to. I don't know how and why people do. It feels like
         | garbage tier radio.
        
           | reidjs wrote:
           | Your local radio show will undoubtedly be better than the
           | average podcast because there's no barrier to entry for
           | podcasts. However, the high tier podcasts are on average way
           | better than anything your local radio show can produce.
        
           | nice_byte wrote:
           | One of the main points of what people call "podcasts" (and
           | streams as well) is creating parasocial relationships that
           | make mind-numbing chores more pleasant by making it seem like
           | you're hanging out with a group of friends in the background.
           | 
           | To that end, stuff like interviewing skills, presentation,
           | depth of discussion, is unnecessary and maybe even
           | detrimental. What matters is rawness, authenticity,
           | serendipity and light-heartedness. When you listen to this
           | stuff, you're not deeply engaging with the content.
        
       | exolymph wrote:
       | And the Atlantic isn't even a particularly high-end magazine!
       | Granted, the really fancy ones will run you more like $20.
        
       | dnissley wrote:
       | Another example is https://www.palladiummag.com/subscribe/ -- it
       | costs a pretty penny at $50/mo with issues only being released
       | once a quarter, so $150 per issue. But I do think of it as more
       | of a "thank you" gift for a charitable donation to a project I
       | support, since I believe all the articles in each one are all
       | available online before the print version comes out.
        
       | jmathai wrote:
       | The older I get - the more I crave tactile experiences. I was
       | glad he mentioned the experience of listening to albums (well,
       | it's not the listening that's so calming after all - he is right
       | on that).
       | 
       | Everything has trade offs and as time goes on I value the
       | benefits of technology less and less. I believe this has more to
       | do with age than any sort of absolute value judgement.
       | 
       | I should stop at the grocery store on the way home.
        
         | yamtaddle wrote:
         | > Everything has trade offs and as time goes on I value the
         | benefits of technology less and less. I believe this has more
         | to do with age than any sort of absolute value judgement.
         | 
         | For me it's long observation of tech improvements not improving
         | _happiness_ or _contentment_. More choices, more efficiency--
         | just means more time trying to decide, and that you 're
         | expected to do more and context-switch more in less time.
         | 
         | I think there was probably a sweet spot somewhere along the
         | line--or probably a bunch of sweet spots, for separate things--
         | and in many respects we're way past it now.
        
           | admax88qqq wrote:
           | Are the tech improvements truly the cause? Or are you just
           | becoming less happy/content as you age. The stereotype of a
           | crotchety old person comes to mind.
           | 
           | The Douglas Adam's quote comes to mind
           | https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/39828-i-ve-come-up-with-
           | a-s...
           | 
           |  _"I 've come up with a set of rules that describe our
           | reactions to technologies:
           | 
           | 1. Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal
           | and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world
           | works.
           | 
           | 2. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and
           | thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can
           | probably get a career in it.
           | 
           | 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the
           | natural order of things."_
        
       | ancientstraits wrote:
       | Perhaps someone should make a monthly HN magazine, with the top
       | articles and a "Who's Hiring?" section.
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | I would subsribe to Byte, DDJ, Creative Computing, and
         | Scientific American (pre-1990 to be generous, maybe pre-1970 if
         | I'm not), if their equivalents existed today.
        
       | Lammy wrote:
       | > I guess the credit-card company reported my grocery purchases
       | to, well, someone
       | 
       | More like 20-30 someones. Cash is king!
        
       | paulhart wrote:
       | Apparently Tim hasn't seen publications like Wallpaper[0] and
       | Monocle[1] (both created by Tyler Brule). Ironically, those kinds
       | of aspirational/luxury magazines are printed on heavy stock, and
       | therefore lack a few of the traits that he enjoyed about The
       | Atlantic.
       | 
       | [0]: http://wallpaper.com/ [1]: https://monocle.com/
        
       | macintux wrote:
       | When I was in high school I was a big fan of _The Atlantic_ and
       | _The Economist_. The Atlantic cost something ridiculous, I think
       | it was $14 for two years. The Economist was at least 10 times
       | that.
       | 
       | So I subscribed to the former and would buy the latter whenever I
       | found a copy at a store.
       | 
       | Both were amazing experiences to read; growing up in Indiana I
       | didn't have much exposure to the international and cultural
       | flavor that they reveled in.
       | 
       | And of course the tactile experience really is dramatically
       | better than anything digital.
        
       | hammock wrote:
       | There are a lot of high-end niche magazines around. You just have
       | to know where to find them. Some off the top of my head:
       | 
       | Field Ethos
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       | The Modern Luxury (house,
       | https://modernluxurymedia.com/Advertise#print)
       | 
       | The Scout Guide (house)
       | 
       | Etc
        
         | hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
         | I'm going to push back a little bit against "The Modern Luxury"
         | set of magazines. It feels like (and I believe it is) those
         | glossies you see in nice hotel rooms about the city where you
         | are staying. The problem is that, while the pictures are
         | usually nice, the content feels like the equivalent of an "SEO
         | page" - that is, the content is extremely _low_ quality in my
         | opinion. These days it feels like there is not a lot of
         | daylight between the  "articles" in those types of magazines
         | and AI-generated text.
         | 
         | This is in contrast to magazines like The Atlantic, The
         | Economist, etc. where the actual articles are unique and not
         | available elsewhere.
         | 
         | Totally accept that this could just be my bias and not a
         | universal feeling.
        
       | MR4D wrote:
       | Insightful take, which mirrors my reasons for buying paper
       | newspapers when I travel.
        
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