[HN Gopher] Local Neon ___________________________________________________________________ Local Neon Author : andyjohnson0 Score : 36 points Date : 2022-09-23 08:55 UTC (2 days ago) (HTM) web link (theprepared.org) (TXT) w3m dump (theprepared.org) | highpost wrote: | Los Angeles (Glendale really) also has the Museum of Neon Art: | https://www.neonmona.org/ | [deleted] | itronitron wrote: | Most commercial neon production is hidden as it's installed | within 'channel' letters (shaped aluminum sheet metal) that | comprise signage for stores outside strip malls. | | I would be surprised if store owners willingly replace those with | LEDs due to the longevity of well made neon, which is easily 10 | to 20 years. | parker_mountain wrote: | > I would be surprised if store owners willingly replace those | with LEDs due to the longevity of well made neon, which is | easily 10 to 20 years. | | Commercial LEDs need to be replaced about every 7-10 years - | closer to 10-20 if only run at night. | | Their power usage is about 1/10th that of neon. Their failure | mode is also a lot more graceful - they tend to slowly dim. | | Replacing LED modules is also quite a bit easier than replacing | neon - instead of charging up a glass tube (or worse, patching | broken glass), you show up with a box of inexpensive modules - | an afternoon's work for any electrician. Replacing neon tubing | with LEDs is also quite easy. Unfortunately, neon requires | specialized skills. | | The TCO of LEDs for signage is significantly lower than neon, | the installation cost is significantly lower, it's much easier | to find someone who can install LED lighting than it is neon, | and you have a much wider array of options of color for LEDs. | | Which is a huge shame, because I really like the way bare neon | tubes look - even with dense LED packages, you can't get | anything close to the ephemeral glow of classic, glass tube | neon. | squarefoot wrote: | > even with dense LED packages, you can't get anything close | to the ephemeral glow of classic, glass tube neon. | | You can obtain results close to the real thing by using a | good light diffuser. | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9bSzE9ir1Q | | Those strips are cheap. | | https://www.ebay.com/itm/274148208415 | | They however don't emit light in all direction like a real | neon; if that's the goal, a light pipe might be more | suitable. | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CQnRARsk4E | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsi1jHEuarI | nathell wrote: | There's a neon museum in Warsaw, Poland. Worth a visit if you're | in town, especially after sunset. | eneumann wrote: | Can confirm. It's so cool. It's a shame neon signage has gone | out of fashion. | parker_mountain wrote: | The one in Vegas is also fantastic, although less of a museum | and more of a large dirt lot. Certainly better to spend an | evening there than on the strip, in my opinion. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-09-25 23:00 UTC)