[HN Gopher] What happened to Tandy computers
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       What happened to Tandy computers
        
       Author : erickhill
       Score  : 83 points
       Date   : 2022-09-27 15:31 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | atan2 wrote:
       | I loved my Tandy. It's nice to see it in the front page of HN,
       | but the shallow content and the thousands of ads in the middle of
       | the article made it for a really depressing read.
        
         | outworlder wrote:
         | And every single ad requires more processing power and memory
         | than any of the Tandy computers had.
        
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       | empressplay wrote:
       | My second computer was an MC-10 bought on clearance. My route out
       | and about on my bike usually took me to the local Radio Shack
       | store where I'd spend an hour or two playing with the CoCo's,
       | Tandys and such.
       | 
       | I currently have a Model 1 (part of my Holy Trinity) a 1000, an
       | MC-10, a PC-1 and a CoCo 3... I really need to find another Model
       | 100 (or 102)... had to sell the last one :(
        
       | classichasclass wrote:
       | This sort of glosses over all the other computers Tandy made or
       | rebadged. It only briefly refers to the original TRS-80s, and
       | doesn't seem to mention anything else like the CoCos, the Pocket
       | Computers and the Model 100 family. At least for a period of time
       | those were nearly as important as the PCs, particularly the M100.
       | I worked with an elementary school teacher who had a whole room
       | full of networked CoCo 2s (using the cassette interface rotary
       | network) and a CoCo 3 as the server. The fractions math trainer I
       | wrote for them was still in use years later.
        
         | russellbeattie wrote:
         | My first computer was a TRS-80 CoCo2 because it was the one I
         | used in elementary school. (You must be at least 10 years older
         | than me!) Loved that computer and still have it in a box in my
         | garage. I've always been deeply insulted by anyone who called
         | it a "trash 80". Usually they were the kids who had a Commodore
         | 64, which admittedly was a better machine, but still!
         | 
         | I'm still bitter 40 years later. Jerks!
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | You might be interested in the github project to recreate the
         | DLOAD server protocol on modern hardware.
         | https://github.com/TJBChris/dload_server
        
         | jhallenworld wrote:
         | Tandy models 2, 12, 16 and 6000 were great business machines:
         | they had 80x24 screen, buffered keyboard (just like IBM PC),
         | and had lots of software support (Xenix, TRSDOS, CP/M, RM/COS).
         | 
         | IBM PC was basically the same thing, but cheaper and had even
         | higher quality keyboards and screens.
         | 
         | CoCo had a nice CPU, but otherwise was junk. I bought a CoCo3
         | recently, and have been playing with OS-9. If only there had
         | been a popular 6809-based computer with better hardware than
         | the CoCo.
        
           | mosburger wrote:
           | My junior high school library had Tandy Model IIIs that I
           | learned to program on (alongside the Apple IIs). The
           | elementary school had a mix of CoCo 2s and Apples.
        
           | bsder wrote:
           | > If only there had been a popular 6809-based computer with
           | better hardware than the CoCo.
           | 
           | That wasn't really the issue, the C64 wasn't much better yet
           | became the best selling computer of all time.
           | 
           | At Tandy, the owner died right in the late 70s. And then, I
           | seem to recall that Tandy had not one but _two_ embezzlement
           | scandals at points when the company needed to have vision
           | because the underlying business economics were shifting.
        
             | fsckboy wrote:
             | I read what he wrote differently
             | 
             | >> _If only there had been a popular 6809-based computer
             | with better hardware than the CoCo._
             | 
             | > _That wasn 't really the issue, the C64 wasn't much
             | better_
             | 
             | the 6809 was a really nice "ultimate" evolution of the
             | 8-bit CPU. The C-64 was just another primitive 6502. So I
             | think GP meant "I wish there was a 6809 I could get that
             | wasn't the CoCo, because I want a 6809!" rather than
             | meaning that the hardware doomed the CoCo or something.
        
               | jejones3141 wrote:
               | In a way it did. Tandy offloaded every possible function
               | onto the processor to lower part count and hence cost,
               | resulting in the infamous bit banger serial port and the
               | equally infamous high resolution mouse adapter, which
               | made the CPU time the discharge of a capacitor to figure
               | out where the mouse pointer was, so you learned quickly
               | to keep the mouse at the top left, minimizing that time,
               | unless absolutely necessary. DMA for disk I/O? Only with
               | third party hardware.
        
         | bsder wrote:
         | The M100 never really seemed to find its niche with people. It
         | was simply too expensive for what you got on top of not being
         | able to play games on your color TV--both of which limited the
         | mass appeal.
        
           | russellbeattie wrote:
           | I wrote about this last week - It may not have been a mass-
           | market success, but the Model 100 was a must-have in
           | newspaper offices well into the 90s.
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32918980
        
         | madengr wrote:
         | We had that same rotary network in school (1986). It was neat
         | that you would download to multiple machines at once, then
         | upload from individuals. Of course we'd play Telengard and
         | Battlezone when not programming, or using the hex editor to put
         | 4 letter words in Battlezone. Fun times. I have a Model 100 I
         | need to dig out and play with. I'd still like to have a Model
         | 3.
        
       | bluedino wrote:
       | The neighbors had a Tandy 1000. One of the lower models, I don't
       | remember which one. It didn't have a hard drive, only had 384KB
       | of memory (not sure, it didn't have 640k so it wouldn't run some
       | DOS games I brought over), but it did have a 720kb 3.5" disk
       | drive (which couldn't read my 1.44MB disks)
       | 
       | We mostly played around with Deskmate and GWBASIC, but my friends
       | mother was taking computer science classes and gave me a floppy
       | with Turbo Pascal 2.0 on it. That was a big deal.
       | 
       | I had a 386SX at home which was pretty low end, but this computer
       | was quite a bit older than that, but she did buy it new. I
       | remember the guy from the store coming over there to set it up, I
       | want to say they paid $599 for it.
        
         | troymc wrote:
         | Ah yes, Turbo Pascal 2.0! My brother and I got it as a shared
         | birthday gift. We spent a lot of time trying to understand what
         | happened to GOTO, which we had used a lot when programming with
         | GWBASIC.
        
         | vikingerik wrote:
         | That's an oddity; there was no Tandy 1000 model that came with
         | 384 KB RAM and a 3.5" drive. The SX and SL had that amount of
         | RAM but a 5.25" drive. The TX and TL had a 3.5" drive but 640
         | KB RAM.
         | 
         | Was DeskMate in ROM? That would narrow it down to an SL or TL.
        
           | robotmechadog wrote:
           | Tandy 1000 Ex/HX had 256k... adding the MemoryPlus DMA
           | upgrade board got you to 384k. The HX had a 3.5" drive and
           | DOS in rom. I remember impressing my friends by booting to
           | cmd without a floppy inserted. "Wow you have a hard drive?"
           | Lol no.
        
             | [deleted]
        
           | bluedino wrote:
           | ROM, and like I said so t remember the exact amount of RAM, I
           | just know it wasn't 640k. And it only had a single 3.5", no
           | 5.25" drive. I had both drives in my 386 so tradings software
           | disks was always tricky.
        
           | sjsdaiuasgdia wrote:
           | If they're misremembering the RAM size, could be the RL. I
           | had one, and I recall it came with 512KB RAM expandable to
           | 768KB via installing a couple DIPs into sockets.
        
             | vikingerik wrote:
             | The RL came with a hard drive, so bluedino's wasn't that
             | one.
        
       | a_zaydak wrote:
       | I still have a Tandy2000. I learned to code on it as a kid. I
       | still boot it up every now and again to play some King's Quest.
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | Near as I can tell the only graphical game released for the
         | Tandy 2000 was a special edition of Microsoft Flight Simulator
         | that also supported the Tandy 1000 and 1200HD. The 2000 was in
         | their business line, not quite PC compatible but it ran DOS and
         | was supposed to run applications like MultiMate, dBASE, and
         | Basic Four.
         | 
         | The Tandy 1000 line did support Sierra games very well.
        
           | troymc wrote:
           | > The Tandy 1000 line did support Sierra games very well.
           | 
           | Very true! I wonder if the Sierra games (e.g. King's Quest,
           | Space Quest) were some of the "killer apps" for Tandy
           | computers, i.e. the apps which made people want to buy a
           | Tandy computer. Radio Shack certainly sold Sierra games and I
           | always wanted the latest one for Christmas.
           | 
           | In the business world, things like spreadsheets were the
           | killer apps, but I certainly didn't care about spreadsheets
           | as a kid.
        
             | bitwize wrote:
             | > Very true! I wonder if the Sierra games (e.g. King's
             | Quest, Space Quest) were some of the "killer apps" for
             | Tandy computers, i.e. the apps which made people want to
             | buy a Tandy computer.
             | 
             | Before VGA and Sound Blaster came along, almost certainly.
             | The Tandy 1000 line supported 3-voice sound and more
             | colorful graphics in a manner almost identical to the PCjr,
             | just in a less jank package. So they looked and sounded
             | better on a Tandy than on most contemporary 80s PCs. Sierra
             | games not only were sold at Radio Shack, but Tandy cross-
             | promoted them in their store, even to the point of running
             | special Sierra/Tandy demos on in-store machines to attract
             | buyers.
        
       | hollywood_court wrote:
       | I knew one of the Tandy children. He lived in the Virgin Islands
       | and was known as "the water mon." He sold 5 gallon bottles of
       | water out of a white van. It would be hard to guess that he was
       | from money and had money.
        
       | froggertoaster wrote:
       | I used to use my Tandy to check my email, along with my brothers
       | Mad and Sad.
        
         | drewzero1 wrote:
         | Don't worry, your computer's in a better place.
        
       | iancmceachern wrote:
       | We had a Tandy 1000RLX growing up. The X meant it had a 40 mb
       | hard drive. Loved that thing.
        
         | ridgered4 wrote:
         | My first PC was a Tandy1000RL. It was used and fairly obsolete
         | by the time I got it, but I squeezed every drop I could get out
         | of that thing. I learned DOS on it, and learned to reinstall
         | DOS and deskmate after I accidentally blew away the OS with a
         | misplaced deltree command. I spent quite a bit of time trying
         | to make games in QBASIC.
         | 
         | I played a lot of old games on it, mostly purchased from corner
         | stands in the super market and the occasional box title from
         | Ames department store. They just sold the disk in a sleeve with
         | a short description of what I was purchasing. I was constantly
         | frustrated by my lack of VGA graphics, sound blaster and
         | sometimes available conventional memory. Tandy graphics (which
         | I learned later was really just a souped up version of CGA)
         | were not that commonly supported so I was often stuck playing
         | games in 4 color CGA mode. I eventually upgraded the RAM from
         | 512KB to 768KB, which cost me $75!
         | 
         | The annoying double density 720K floppy drive was a non stop
         | hassle requiring me to learn pkzip and zip spanning to split
         | the contents of the then common high density disks on a school
         | PC so I could then get the contents onto my hard drive. I had
         | to go to my uncle's house if I wanted to get data off a 5.25"
         | disks, and when he did the copies as a favor for me he usually
         | returned a high density 3.5" that I still couldn't use
         | directly.
         | 
         | I have no idea why I have such fond memories of that thing but
         | I do.
        
       | loloquwowndueo wrote:
       | " the reason there's about a 90% chance you are reading this on a
       | PC with an Intel or Intel compatible processor"
       | 
       | Here I am, reading this on a phone with an ARM-based CPU :) and
       | some quick market share stats I found actually point to about 50%
       | web traffic happening on mobile devices. So not 90%, no :)
        
       | agentultra wrote:
       | I feel like this story crossed into Halt and Catch Fire a few
       | times.
       | 
       | A friend of mine had one of these machines in the early 90's as a
       | hand-me-down. It was his own computer! Unheard of at the time for
       | me and most families I knew that had a computer. They were
       | shared!
        
       | pjungwir wrote:
       | My family bought a Tandy 1000 around 1985. I was eight years old
       | and quickly started writing batch scripts and rudimentary BASIC
       | games. My friend had a Tandy too and, being a musician, talked
       | all the time about their "three-voice sound." We taught ourselves
       | BASIC together by decoding the spiral-bound reference manual that
       | came with the computer. Without any tutorial-style material it
       | was rough going, but we persisted. I remember him trying to
       | explain for loops to me and I was just n-o-t getting it. And I
       | always wondered what GOSUB was for. "Why would you want to go
       | somewhere then just come back again?" After several years it
       | finally clicked when I independently invented function calls. ;-)
        
         | troymc wrote:
         | I remember that spiral bound reference manual. Learning from
         | that was like learning English by reading the dictionary. Thank
         | goodness there were examples. I also never understood the point
         | of GOSUB for a long time.
        
         | tiahura wrote:
         | My dad bought one in '85 and kept it for 2 days. He thought it
         | was junk (he was a mechanical engineer and used Apollo
         | workstation as his daily driver.
         | 
         | He returned it and bought an Amiga. Best decision ever.
        
           | icedchai wrote:
           | In middle school I had a friend with a Tandy 1000EX. I had an
           | Amiga 500. He refused to believe the Amiga was a superior
           | platform! Early 90's computer wars were so childish.
        
         | soylentcola wrote:
         | Had similar experience with our Commodore 128 (even had a
         | spiral-bound brick of a manual too). Between that and just the
         | old LIST command, I was able to poke around in loads of games
         | and programs and see how they worked (or, say, give myself a
         | million gold in Telengard).
         | 
         | I did grasp GOSUB fairly easily but I never understood why I
         | could load some programs from disk, but when I typed LIST, I
         | would just see a single line with SYS (and a number). Didn't
         | realize until later that this was just a way to call machine
         | language code that had been loaded directly into memory.
         | 
         | How the hell was I supposed to learn from that??
        
           | timbit42 wrote:
           | Well, the C128 had a built-in ML monitor which could
           | disassemble assembly.
        
       | incanus77 wrote:
       | Radio Shack may have been selling IBMs by 1995, but by 1998, they
       | were in a big partnership with Compaq instead. I worked at one
       | then while in college and earned great commissions on them; they
       | were the big ticket. The Radio Shack strategy at that time was
       | shifting towards licensing big name products such as Compaq,
       | Sprint PCS mobile phones, and Sprint cordless landline phones.
       | They even had Scotty from Star Trek promoting a battery club!
       | 
       | See this catalog:
       | https://radioshackcatalogs.com/flipbook/1999_radioshack_cata...
       | 
       | Ultimately they got completely blown away by the rise of big box
       | stores such as CompUSA and Best Buy, though.
        
       | RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
       | Tandy actually had a comic series for kids which advertised their
       | computers.
       | 
       | https://www.atarimagazines.com/whizkids/showpage.php?issue=c...
        
       | rob74 wrote:
       | > _The problem was, Tandy didn't really have a succession plan
       | [for the Tandy 1000]._
       | 
       | Sounds familiar... sitting back and treating their successful
       | models as cash cows killed at least one other home computer
       | pioneer: Commodore. The original Amigas (A1000/A500/A2000) were
       | successful (more in Europe than in the US, but still), but they
       | were never able to come up with a worthy successor until it was
       | too late.
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | Living through that era, I recall that Linus Torvalds talked a
         | lot of smack about the 80286. The 386 was just so much better
         | for implementing Unix on that they didn't even want to deal
         | with it.
         | 
         | So there seems to be this uncanny valley between 8086 and 386,
         | where a lot of people either dragged their feet or jumped
         | forward as soon as they could.
         | 
         | My transition to a 386 was very abrupt, facilitated by a
         | Christmas present that could not run on an 8086 machine. But
         | one of the first things I installed on it was Windows, and I
         | went from "How will I ever fill up a 40MB hard drive?" to "oh
         | wow it's almost half full already" in a matter of weeks. I
         | suspect a lot of people were experience 'sticker shock' with
         | respect to file size inflation as well, leading to more foot
         | dragging.
        
           | rob74 wrote:
           | I can fully understand Linus that he didn't want to adapt
           | Linux to work on a 16 bit CPU. When he started with it, those
           | were on their way out already, so it would have been pretty
           | pointless...
        
           | fredoralive wrote:
           | I guess its the lack of a killer app for the 286? Was there
           | much software for DOS that actually needed a 286 as a
           | minimum? I get the impression they were often just used as
           | "fast XTs".
           | 
           | Some of this is due to various limitations that make using
           | the new features of the 286 in DOS a pain (or putting major
           | DOS compatibility limitations on OS/2 1.x, which is probably
           | partly why no-one used OS/2 at the time).
           | 
           | The 386 had features that were actually used like 32 bit
           | support and a protected mode that could actually work
           | alongside DOS. Plus its around this time you got Windows 3.x
           | in 386 Enhanced Mode, which is around the point Windows
           | actually becomes a thing people use. So you get a lot more
           | apps that basically require a 386, rather than the generic
           | mass of DOS software that runs on just about anything
           | beforehand.
        
           | Narishma wrote:
           | I don't get this comment. The 286 was extremely successful.
           | It wasn't until the 1991 or 1992 that 386 started outselling
           | it.
        
             | icedchai wrote:
             | I grew up during that time. In the late 80's, early 90's
             | teenage BBS world, 286's were considered lame. You could
             | understand someone being stuck on a 8086/8088: they
             | couldn't afford to upgrade. But for a few more bucks, you
             | could get a 386SX instead of a 286 and do way cooler stuff.
        
         | timbit42 wrote:
         | The person at Commodore who didn't have a plan for the future
         | of computing was Irving Gould. He didn't use computers and
         | wanted to extract as much value as possible into his own bank
         | account. His henchman who executed it was Mehdi Ali. They cut
         | research and engineering to save money, ensuring anything in
         | the labs would never make it to market in time to be
         | competitive. They fired Thomas Rattigan, the man who got the
         | Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000 projects going. The Amiga 500 sold
         | more units than the other Amiga models combined and kept the
         | company going long enough to release the A3000 and A1200/4000
         | before it bankrupted. The only person who got what they wanted
         | was Irving Gould. He got to die with a few more millions in his
         | bank account.
        
       | mixmastamyk wrote:
       | Everything got crushed by the IBM PC, including IBM. Largely
       | because it was open (enough) and could be reverse engineered.
       | 
       | Apple is the only other notable survivor of the era, by its
       | fingernails and $150 million from Microsoft in the late 90s to
       | give the appearance of competition and appease regulators.
       | Arstechnica has a great piece on this:
       | 
       | https://arstechnica.com/features/2005/12/total-share/
       | 
       | Specifically these graphs. By 1990 it was all over in PCs. Unix
       | workstations held on for another decade until Linux on Intel
       | dealt them a deathblow, aka Coup de Grace.
       | 
       | https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/archive/artic...
       | 
       | Of course, most of these companies made bad decisions that led to
       | their downfall. Which TFA details. But the super-competitive
       | environment made bad decisions fatal rather than recoverable.
        
       | cmer wrote:
       | Fun Tandy story.
       | 
       | It was the 80s. My parent bought a Tandy 1000 SX for their
       | business. It worked fine for a while, until one day it started
       | randomly crashing, and occasionally showing a little dot bouncing
       | around the screen.
       | 
       | They took that thing to countless computer stores to have it
       | fixed. Nobody could figure it out. Everybody said it was working
       | just fine.
       | 
       | My dad got so fed up he bought a new computer and told me that if
       | I could fix it, I could keep it.
       | 
       | And of course I figured it out! Turns out, it was infected with
       | the Ping Pong [1] virus. One of the very first viruses. Certainly
       | the first I had ever witnessed, or anybody I knew for that
       | matter. That day, John McAfee got me a free computer!
       | 
       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping-Pong_virus
        
       | nope96 wrote:
       | I love that there is still an active Tandy user group!
       | 
       | https://www.glensideccc.com/cocofest/
        
       | zaphar wrote:
       | My first computer was a Tandy 1000HX. Without it I would probably
       | never have gotten into the career I have now. Nothing but fond
       | memories of that thing.
        
         | derrikcurran wrote:
         | I could have posted this comment verbatim! (Except mine was a
         | TX.) I was poor growing up and couldn't afford a computer and
         | it changed everything when I got the Tandy. My mother was a
         | hairdresser. She got to talking to one of her clients about me
         | and, long story short, her client gave me the Tandy along with
         | a bunch of manuals and programming books. She also came to our
         | apartment and got me started on it. Even showed me the
         | internals. I owe a great deal to that woman!
        
           | natebc wrote:
           | Ditto but mine was a TL with TWO 1.44MB floppy drives that I
           | later crammed a massive 10MB hard drive into and dangled a
           | 300 baud external modem off of!
           | 
           | IIRC that thing was like $1500 in 1987 dollars. I have no
           | idea at all how my parents could afford it but I'm sure glad
           | they did. Every single dollar I've earned as an adult was
           | because of that purchase.
        
             | zaphar wrote:
             | Ours was literally bought with tax return money. We could
             | never have afforded it otherwise.
        
       | smm11 wrote:
       | I was at a newspaper in 1992 and we all used Tandy TRS-80
       | computers writing to huge floppy discs. Our finished copy would
       | find its way to Compugraphic Unisetter machines for output.
       | 
       | Inside of a year I was at a place using Aldus Pagemaker on Macs
       | to paginate.
        
       | Rapzid wrote:
       | Tandy 3000 is where it all started for me. My fam got it late in
       | about 95.. A hand me down from my dad's friend.
       | 
       | We had a vic(?) in 92/93 but I don't recall my dad ever doing
       | anything with it and I only ever got a simple sample program
       | running from the huge manual. After much trial and frustration;
       | was 7-8.
       | 
       | So Tandy. DOS, a commander like compressed launcher... Everything
       | had to explode before it ran haha. Loaded with stealth fighter
       | and some other games. Monitor had to be banged to get the colors
       | right every so often.
       | 
       | Sierra games. Ran up huge help line bill. Father was PO'd; we
       | didn't have a lot of means haha.
       | 
       | 486 came with second marriage. Got video game programming in
       | 21!days box bundle from Sam's publishing for Xmas. Nothing worked
       | properly on windows 3.1 ootb back then. Really turned me off
       | programming for a long time.
       | 
       | Ah the memories.
        
       | throwaway20148 wrote:
       | Little piece of Tandy errata: They had their own subway line in
       | downtown Fort Worth[1]. It was there before they built their
       | headquarters, The Tandy Center, but they kept it running and it
       | terminated in a parking lot that also had a little farmers market
       | that my family used to sell watermelons at when I was a kid in
       | the early 90s. If we sold all of the melons early we would take
       | the train into the Tandy Center for the fun of it.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandy_Center_Subway
        
       | ck2 wrote:
       | > _And I will argue the reason there's about a 90% chance you are
       | reading this on a PC with an Intel or Intel compatible processor
       | in it has a lot to do with Tandy_
       | 
       | Nope. The reason you are reading this on PC/intel is because of
       | clone motherboards and CPUs which made home computers affordable
       | and small-shops/hobbyists could build their own.
       | 
       | Name brands were twice the price, the Apple universe was four
       | times the price.
       | 
       | Cheap clones is why x86 is alive and well today.
        
         | jhbadger wrote:
         | I think both are true. The important thing with the Tandy 1000
         | is that it had decent graphics and sound and so was attractive
         | to the home buyer who probably wanted to play games. These
         | eventually made it to the cheap clone market via sound and
         | graphics cards, but when the Tandy 1000 was released, IBM
         | compatible PCs were seen as business machines and not really
         | game machines. In the late 1980s you'd be better off with an
         | Amiga or even an 8-bit machine if you wanted to play games than
         | with most IBM compatible machines.
        
       | klik99 wrote:
       | My dad had a Tandy 1400LT - no hard drive, just whatever disk was
       | inserted - I played Space Quest 2&3 and Leisure Suit Larry (I
       | wouldn't let my own kids play that one at that age, but I
       | honestly had no idea). I was upset it wouldn't play Space Quest
       | 4. This triggered a latent memory of my first experience
       | programming BASIC on it, putting me at 8-9 years old. I wish
       | there was a laptop that difficult to use and durable today - my
       | own kids ended up busting a raspberry pi 400 I got for them to
       | mess around on.
        
       | mosburger wrote:
       | My first computer was an Tandy 1000EX (in... 1986?), and this
       | article is spot-on. The sound and graphics were miles ahead of my
       | friends with IBM and Apple PCs at home (but not quite as good as
       | the Commodores). And, as the article points out, they didn't keep
       | up with standards. I made the mistake of going with nostalgia and
       | "upgrading" to a Tandy 1000TX in 1992 when I headed off to
       | college, and everyone else was running Windows (my old Tandy
       | could run Windows 3.0, but not 3.1). I ended up needing to do my
       | homework on my roommate's Wang (another dinosaur) PC.
       | 
       | Still nostalgic for my first Tandy 1000, but I regretted my
       | decision to get the second one, and ultimately sold it a year
       | later to buy a no-name 486 PC.
        
         | HideousKojima wrote:
         | My parents had a Tandy when I was young, so from about '90-'96
         | (we got a Windows 95 desktop around that time). I distinctly
         | remember my first video game, _Donald 's Alphabet Chase_
         | (starring Donald Duck) but didn't discover until years later
         | that it was developed by Westwood, of _Command and Conquer_
         | fame.
         | 
         | We also had a typewriter as our printer, which had a single
         | line preview/edit mode when using as a typewriter, and a
         | daisywheel printer sort of mechanism when printing from the PC.
        
         | tstrimple wrote:
         | This was my first computer too! But I didn't get my until '95
         | (I was 12) as a hand-me-down from an uncle. It's the computer
         | that I learned how to learn on. I learned DOS by myself from a
         | DOS For Dummies book which let me figure out how to install and
         | play games on the computer. I also picked up Basic which
         | started my adventures in computer programming. This single
         | opportunity set me down the path of learning and making a
         | living from technology for the rest of my life. I've no idea
         | what I would be doing today if I never received that computer.
        
       | bsharitt wrote:
       | I'm not old enough to have grown up on Tandy computers(though I
       | recall my parents having what may have been a CoCo when I was
       | very young), I do have have a 1000TX and CoCo 2 as part of my
       | retro computer collection. I really kind of like that 1000TX in
       | my collection. Not only is it one of my favorite XT
       | compatibles(technically it has a 286, but still effectively has
       | an XT rather AT architecture, so it ends up basically being a
       | fast 8088) in my collection, that Tandy graphics and sound also
       | give a bit of a soul of an 8-bit home computer and was pretty
       | well supported by games of the era, especially compared other
       | niche graphics and sound technologies.
        
       | lordnacho wrote:
       | I remember the brand, though I never came near one. Friends all
       | had various other machines.
       | 
       | Sounds like they missed the memo about Moore's Law. It really was
       | a special time for home computing in the 1990s, every time I went
       | to see a friend with a new machine it would be miles better than
       | one from just a few months earlier. Sounds went from a bunch of
       | beeps to what we now think of as ordinary. Graphics went from
       | green text on a black screen to proper 3D. The father of a friend
       | of mine had a high end machine that he used to do research, super
       | precious about it. Not long after I had a gaming machine that was
       | much better.
       | 
       | You can see why your average business manager might think to keep
       | the outdated models around as entry level machines, and then
       | people got so disappointed they never came back.
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | In the era before 3D graphics became the default for games, it
         | was often the case that people would justify upgrading a
         | machine in order to be able to handle spreadsheets better, but
         | coincidentally it now also ran video games better as well.
         | 
         | I have no idea how many times business software served as a
         | handy excuse for fun, but it was a lot.
        
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