[HN Gopher] A beginners guide to Esperanto (2003) ___________________________________________________________________ A beginners guide to Esperanto (2003) Author : simonebrunozzi Score : 35 points Date : 2022-09-27 19:55 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com) | nivenkos wrote: | Mi parolas Esperanton kaj mi rekomendas uzu la librojn Teach | Yourself Esperanto kaj la novajn Enjoy Esperanto kaj Complete | Esperanto de Tim Owen, kaj na Lernu.net kaj Duolingo. | plumeria wrote: | Dankon, mi estas komencanto. | flipcoder wrote: | Great video on it if anyone wants an overview of the basics: | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCiFMD8RNbg | | And here's a cheat sheet: | | https://i.imgur.com/zMMY7CL.jpg | | It's very fun to learn and I highly recommend it! | panxyh wrote: | The language really is as easy to adapt as advertised. Too bad it | got clamped, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it suddently | resurfaced among youth as some koombayah meme. | scroot wrote: | One of the more interesting parts of the Esperanto story is | that right at the moment when world organizations were starting | to take it seriously (in this case, the defunct League of | Nations), the movement split between the users of Ido -- a | spinoff of Esperanto -- and the Esperantists themselves. It was | due to this split that the League failes to make a firm | recommendation on a specific international auxiliary language, | because they were waiting to see what would happen | shadowofneptune wrote: | Of note is that the LoN effort was championed by Japan and | China. This may be surprising if you know how Esperanto draws | mostly from Polish and other European languages, but consider | that the contemporary diplomatic languages were French and | English (still are). It would have put everyone on a more | even footing. | sshine wrote: | I think it'll continue to be this undying language that done | people perpetually pick up. | | Takes 3-6 months to learn fluently, and a lifetime to find | other speakers. ;-) | | Maybe in the next 100 years, some neo hippie collective of a | not insignificant size decides to make it the preferred | language of their community. It'd be cool to walk into a part | of a city where Esperanto is the norm, like Chinatown or the | Jewish neighbourhood. | runarberg wrote: | I think every 10th comment I make on HN is arguing against | the notion that technology will fix the problem. But I think | now I'm gonna do the opposite. It seems like technology is | indeed well on its way of making the need of an international | auxiliary language obsolete. | | For government functions live translation is something | skilled translators can do pretty easily, and for common | folks, live machine translations is getting better and more | accessible. | | I for example read many tweets written in languages I don't | understand. And I think it is only a matter of time before | other social platforms (including GitHub and HN) catches on | to provide accessible translation tools so people can read | and write in their native language, and have machines | translate for them. | | As for communicating face to face, surely there could be a | device (or more likely a phone app) that does that, but | mostly I think people will just continue to learn an | auxiliary language or two and find a common language to | communicate in, only using the translation app as a backup in | emergencies. | 7thaccount wrote: | Yep. A few months of just very casual study took me MUCH | further than 3 years of daily Spanish in school. The regular | grammar and 10,000 other nice additions takes so many | complexities out of the language. It also just sounds beautiful | to me. | pixelpoet wrote: | Maybe they could do a guide on English apostrophes next. | creativeembassy wrote: | If anyone else is interested in learning it, I'm getting back | into it via Duolingo and that's working well for me so far. | sshine wrote: | Mi opinias ke lernu.net estas bona hejmpago por lerni | Esperanton. | ASalazarMX wrote: | My first experience with Esperanto left me disillusioned | because it looked silly. It tries to be universal by becoming | a Frankenstein monster of the most popular languages. And the | diacritics, it could have taken the opportunity to reduce | them to the minimum indispensable, but no. Page = pago for | some weird reason. | | I've always wanted to learn Loglan/Lojban because of that, | but those are even more niche. | flipcoder wrote: | I set up my keyboard so I can type the additional letters | with the right alt key. There are keyboard layout options | for Windows, Mac, and Linux as well as mobile keyboards. | | For example: Right alt + c = c | | For linux its pretty simple, you just have to use: | setxkbmap -layout us -variant altgr-intl -option | esperanto:qwerty | plumeria wrote: | If you use iOS you can download the Esperanto keyboard | (Esperanta Klavaro) [0] | | [0] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/esperanta- | klavaro/id957192189 | mordechai9000 wrote: | Saluton! Me too. I like the app but find the attempts at | gamification a little annoying. I wish I could just turn all | that off. | anthk wrote: | Just learn Spanish. It's almost the same, it blended lots of | words from Iberian languages and the spelling it's even more | simple. | Cyberdog wrote: | I don't understand why someone would learn something like | Esperanto when they can put that time and effort into learning a | language that people actually use in the real world instead. | | Now excuse me as I go back to making a Snake clone in Zig. | AussieWog93 wrote: | To be fair, if you're a native English speaker learning a | second language, you'll probably get just as much out of | learning Esperanto as you would German or French or Indonesian. | | At the end of the day, it's a hobby. | maw wrote: | Those languages have extensive literatures which you could | read in the original. Esperanto doesn't. | orwin wrote: | Because it is very easy to learn and help learn more languages. | | Since its a mix between Romance, Slav and Germanic, it can | easily act as a gateway, like if you speak a romance language | and want to learn Slavic, starting with Romanian the learning | Russian will be easier. | anthk wrote: | With Spanish you cover Latin America, Spain a good chunk of | the US, 33% of the English language and a big chunk of | Lusosphere, Francosphere and Italosphere. | LAC-Tech wrote: | Lots of reasons. | | First a lot of us native English speakers are monolingual, | because that's all we need to be. A lot of us view fluency in | another language as something reserved for incredibly | intelligent people. Esperanto is so easy to learn that it | disabuses us of that notion. | | Secondly, linguistic curiosity. What's a constructed language | designed to be easy to use actually like? Is it as easy as | people say it is? | | Lastly, community. There aren't as many esperanto speakers as | there are Hindi or Spanish or Mandarin speakers, sure. No one | is denying that. But a brief search suggests there's 100,000 | active speakers, which isn't nothing. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-09-27 23:00 UTC)