[HN Gopher] BBSing at 300 Bits per Second
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       BBSing at 300 Bits per Second
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2022-10-02 21:08 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | metadat wrote:
       | What year was 300bps the state of the art? Around 1995-1996 I had
       | a 14.4k modem and it was pretty fast at the time.
        
         | reaperducer wrote:
         | _What year was 300bps the state of the art?_
         | 
         | Until about 1985. That's when the first 1200 baud consumer-
         | available modems like the Commodore 1670 started arriving.
         | 
         | There were others available slightly earlier, but they were
         | commercial-grade and prohibitively expensive for most people.
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | Wikipedia claims 1200bps was available in the 70s.
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem I did start with a
         | 1200bps modem back in the 80s, even then it was considered
         | quite slow but was enough for email reading and basic bbs
         | tasks. It sucked for any kind of download though.
        
           | Firehawke wrote:
           | I was using 300 baud back in 1986-1987 or so, though 1200 was
           | definitely easily available by the late 80s and 2400 was
           | cheap by 1991.
        
         | daneel_w wrote:
         | It wasn't the state of the art in the early to mid 1980s, but
         | that's when they were still popular. The famous Supra Modem
         | 2400 arrived on the shelves in the late 1980s. I had a 14k4
         | modem in 1994, and a 28k8 one in 1995.
         | 
         | Add.: the 14k4 modem cost me an equivalent of about $350 in
         | 1994.
        
           | hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
           | I was about to ask how much they cost but you'd already
           | edited your post.
           | 
           | I remember hitting 48.8/56k in ~1996 after I got a modem for
           | Christmas (aged 5).
           | 
           | Now I'm on 1000/50mbit, or ~17.5 thousand times faster than
           | my first connection if my math is correct.
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | Don't know about state of the art, but in the early 80s, 300
         | bps was the economical choice, relatively speaking, for home
         | users. 1200 bps were around but were a good deal less
         | affordable and in quite a bit of the country, less reliable due
         | to the general state of signal quality on the phone network at
         | the time.
        
         | aninteger wrote:
         | Consider yourself lucky. I had a 2400 bps modem in 1995, my
         | first year on the internet. The ISP recommended 9600 bps but
         | everything seemed ok for 14 year old me. IRC was fine and most
         | websites didn't have too many pictures.
        
       | Mountain_Skies wrote:
       | Interesting that the terminal appears to have at least an 80
       | character buffer, as it is able to print after an LF and while
       | performing a CR.
       | 
       | My first modem was 300 baud and while it was painfully slow, text
       | interfaces of the era tended to be very efficient. File transfers
       | of high resolution images is where it tended to get very painful,
       | especially since watching the block count increase (if even that)
       | wasn't anywhere near as engaging as actually navigating through
       | menus and reading information.
        
       | kcplate wrote:
       | Reminds me a bit of a HP mainframe I was an operator on in the
       | mid 80s. We had essentially a paper/typewriter style terminal so
       | that it would record all input and output direct to continuous
       | paper that would be saved for auditing if needed.
       | 
       | Type a command, read your book until you heard it print a
       | response, go read the response and do the next step. Repeat.
        
       | [deleted]
        
       | sf97ahgf wrote:
       | Thank goodness we moved on to broadband.
        
         | Mountain_Skies wrote:
         | There were some short lived quirky technologies at the end of
         | the dial up era, such as using multiple 56k modems bonded into
         | a single connection, the increase throughput. Since this
         | required two telephone lines on both ends, in addition to four
         | modems, only the most data hungry went to that degree of
         | effort. Most simply got broadband when it was offered.
        
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