[HN Gopher] PolyMC compromised by rogue developer having unabomb...
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PolyMC compromised by rogue developer having unabomber manifesto in
steam bio
Author : SuperSandro2000
Score : 35 points
Date : 2022-10-17 20:37 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (github.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| bullwalk wrote:
| I don't get it. One of the developers deleted the 'code of
| conduct'? And then lots of other people left strange comments on
| the commit?
|
| What's the issue here? I'm not sure I understand the context.
| Macha wrote:
| They also locked out all the other developers. So effectively
| this is a hostile takeover.
| lonjil wrote:
| No, the person who owns the GitHub organization kicked out all
| other developers with zero notice and started talking about how
| he's purging the "leftoids" from the project and that all other
| contributors were "promoting radicalist leftist queer
| ideology".
| bullwalk wrote:
| Ah okay that all seems rather silly. Sounds like one dev
| decided to play a prank on the other devs.
| IntelMiner wrote:
| That's a pretty charitable interpretation of events so far
| SuperSandro2000 wrote:
| See reddit [1] for the deleted Discord announcement. Currently
| their Discord Channel and a GitHub commit [2] are being spammed.
|
| [1]:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/PolyMCLauncher/comments/y6k4x7/swit...
| [2]:
| https://github.com/PolyMC/PolyMC/commit/ccf282593dcdbe189c99...
| SuperSandro2000 wrote:
| Also their steam profile is very interesting in containing the
| first paragraph of the unabomber terrorist manfiesto.
|
| https://steamcommunity.com/id/LennyMcLennington/
|
| https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unab...
| nalllar wrote:
| The owner whose account might be hacked or might just have
| decided to do this kicking out all the active devs from the
| github project at the same time is some important context to go
| with the issue.
|
| The other maintainers have already started a fork.
|
| https://github.com/PlaceholderMC/PlaceholderMC
| [deleted]
| wisnoskij wrote:
| olliej wrote:
| > The devs seemed very friendly and responsive, but are typical
| exclusionary Leftists that are not welcoming to people with
| different beliefs
|
| What are the beliefs being excluded?
| wisnoskij wrote:
| Presumably all beliefs not their own, they definitely dog-
| whistled that not that I can speak to that directly. But they
| were clearly exclusionary to different sexuality/biology.
| etchalon wrote:
| What sexualities do you believe they're excluding?
| sjcoles wrote:
| It's open source! Don't like it fork it! Simple as that.
| You're not forced to work with anyone you don't want to for
| any reason.
|
| This always feels like a self tell for people with a very
| authoritarian mindset.
|
| Just because someone like yourself would use conduct to
| exclude individuals from participating does not mean that
| others will.
| IntelMiner wrote:
| This feels very "I made a transphobic comment and got
| removed"
| olliej wrote:
| I asked, what are examples of beliefs that are excluded by
| CoCs?
|
| Most CoCs I've seen simply state a variation of "don't be
| an asshole", "don't act like some people aren't actually
| humans", etc - which seems reasonable to me: being an
| asshole drives away contributors, treating some people as
| subhuman has a similar effect.
|
| I have yet to see a CoC that limits beliefs (e.g. "no
| christians", "no muslims", "no atheists"), nor politics
| (e.g. "no democrats", "no republicans", etc), nor any other
| group really - I have certainly never seen any CoC that
| excluded sexuality or biology, and I would love an example
| because I think that kind of discrimination is important to
| acknowledge and avoid.
|
| I'm sure that you could find some smaller projects that do
| shit like the above, but by and large CoCs are generally
| boring "respect other people in the community" drivel.
| jeroenhd wrote:
| You can read the CoC here: https://github.com/PolyMC/Poly
| MC/blob/aecd158d3c9fce7e42143c... Doesn't seem to exclude
| any normal behaviour.
|
| Considering the torrent of transphobic posts related to
| this issue, this could be a hostile account takeover or
| maybe a transphobic developer. I associate the language
| used here with 4chan above all else, though some far-
| right groups use the same lingo.
| chowells wrote:
| Usually the beliefs being excluded are things like "white
| people are superior to all others", "there is no reason for
| the English language to have different words for sex and
| gender", or "it's acceptable to use terms for immutable
| characteristics as insults", etc.
|
| And let's be honest - those ideas are excluded in the name of
| inclusivity. If you interpret "inclusivity" as meaning
| "accepts everything", you end up at a paradox quite quickly.
| It's the paradox of tolerance, yet again. And its cause is
| the same thing: misunderstanding the goals based on a naive
| reading of the name.
|
| Inclusivity isn't about including absolutely everything. It's
| about maximizing the variety present. And doing that does
| have the cost of rejecting people who drive others away.
| huimang wrote:
| What kicked this off was... adding a bog standard code of
| conduct. The latest commit removes this, with the message
| being "reclaim polymc from the leftoids".
|
| So this is a simply knee-jerk over-reaction.
| aaron695 wrote:
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