[HN Gopher] Replit Mobile App ___________________________________________________________________ Replit Mobile App Author : todsacerdoti Score : 248 points Date : 2022-10-19 15:14 UTC (7 hours ago) (HTM) web link (blog.replit.com) (TXT) w3m dump (blog.replit.com) | rchiniquy wrote: | Love to see this on the Steam Deck. | asadlionpk wrote: | That would be a downgrade. SteamDeck already has a linux | desktop and chrome browser. Can always pin replit.com website | to steamOS homescreen. | ellis0n wrote: | Hello, I'm Viktor from Ukraine, the author and founder of the | Animation CPU mobile coding platform, which I've been developing | for 10+5 years. | | 2 years ago during COVID-19, 2014-2022 war in Ukraine and | financial pressure, I wrote to Amjad with my ideas about mobile | coding and was looking for support. | | He was introduced as a judge in the Pioneer.app remote | accelerator and as an investor, and I had reason to trust him. As | a result, he copied 5 ideas out of 5, about which he said that | they say "I still do not understand what your project is about" | and silently copied everything. I am a programmer with 20 years | of experience and this looks like the biggest YC programmer scam | in the world. Considering how russian maniacs want to steal | everything and destroy Ukrainians and European civilization. | | I asked Amjad to help my project, make a donation and help | Ukraine, but he never did. | | Lets try my original mobile dev project | https://twitter.com/AcpuStudio | | 2012-2020 https://animationcpu.herokuapp.com (covid-19) | | 2012-2015 https://acpul.tumblr.com (original old school) | brap wrote: | This is not surprising, based on his past behavior. I think you | should make a "Tell HN" post. | ellis0n wrote: | I thought about it, but still can't figure out what benefit | it will bring. PG loves Amjad very much, apparently this | project scheme will allow programmers to be placed in the | cages of the matrix. | | Ukrainians die every day so that civilization can continue to | build international unicorns, but I am against continued | parasitism on Ukrainians. Is this what Steve Jobs, Apple and | others were aiming for? | | Since PG relies on Amjad, then the actions of anti-fraud | organizations are needed if Amjad is related to the russian | capital and money laundering, for example. This threatens the | entire American startup ecosystem with YC. | | Perhaps this is the business of lawyers and I cannot | understand what pluses and minuses "Tell HN" will bring in | progression. | javier123454321 wrote: | I mean, I think this is just the start. If I am able to create | entire environments all cloud based, I can then just use an ipad | when I'm travelling. Ok, not ideal for everything, but this is a | use case that I've been waiting for a while and it's just not | quite there yet. Eventually I can see there's people that will | get to employable levels of coding proficiency without | understanding the underlying complexities of environments, and | the hardware which is running your code. This is problematic in | some sense, but an incredible abstraction which can increase | productivity in the other hand. Overall, I see this as an amazing | positive. | bogota wrote: | People have already got to that level without understanding the | environment and hardware. I have worked with them and spent a | lot of time explaining how the system works. | | I personally don't understand how people enjoy programming | without understanding the stack they are ontop of but im sure | some C and assembly programmers said the same thing about most | of us today. | javier123454321 wrote: | This is a necessary part of creating more sophisticated | systems. Abstracting the lower ends of complexity to focus on | the higher ends. The problem is, of course, when the | abstractions leak and you need to debug a level lower than | you're used to dealing. Still, I think that this is the best | discussion on the matter [law of leaky | abstractions](https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the- | law-of-leaky-a...). In the end, yes, it's best to understand | everything all the way down to the thermodynamic processes | that enable something to be produced, but you cut your losses | at some point in order to get started. A leaky abstraction is | when you are forced to learn, and how you discover that some | of your assumptions are mistaken. | keeptrying wrote: | That joystick control struck me as a great idea. | | This really opens up coding to people who only have a phone - | which is a large number of people in say Rural India. | | One way of working I've constantly thinking about is using | replit's as the unit of work. | | Imagine finishing your work and sending the replit to someone | else to review, run and then push to beta. No need for any setup | on the reciever side or the QA side. If PM specs are also part of | this environment, its very self contained and would be a great | way for remote teams to work and helps avoid meetings. | stblack wrote: | Presently on iOS it appears this is an iPhone app that doesn't | scale to iPad screen dimensions, even when expanded. It's using | between a third and a half of the available viewport in landscape | orientation. | | That said, it appears to work pretty well in side-by-side mode, | concurrently with another app, but it still uses about half the | available viewport in this mode. | | I expect this will get addressed PDQ. | brundolf wrote: | Came here to ask about this. Using it on a phone seems great | for learning, toy projects, and maybe quick fixes, but I think | you need more space to do sustained development. Having this on | an iPad with a keyboard would be exciting. | CamCrain wrote: | I think their main focus is allowing people to code who only | have a mobile phone, so my guess is iPad is a lower priority | (because most people with iPads have full size computers they | can use instead). | wilsonnb3 wrote: | iPad users also have access to the desktop version of their | site | Jtsummers wrote: | Making it scale properly to iPad screen sizes and doing | nothing else shouldn't be too hard to do and would make it a | lot more useful for people. Even if they don't want to spend | the time developing an iPad specific layout, no reason not to | use the full iPad screen with the current layout. | ja3k wrote: | I've been programming on my phone with termux + vim. It's been | sort of a delight. | yewenjie wrote: | In case you want the same Termux experience but also the huge | nix packages collection - check out | https://github.com/t184256/nix-on-droid | barbazoo wrote: | The thought of using vim on a phone gives me mild anxiety but | I'll definitely check termux! | ja3k wrote: | I've found the phone's small keyboard makes a lot of the | silly vim shortcuts I've learned over time actually worth it. | z3t4 wrote: | Vim comes from a time when we did not have screens, you had | to print out the code on paper. Probably why it works | surprisingly well on mobile. Being able to see the code is | a luxury. Typing speed is also not an issue when writing a | program, although modern languages are verbose compared to | assembly. I would worry about ergonomics when working on | mobile though, like neck/back and thumb issues. I would | suggest having the terminal screen built into glasses, and | a wireless keyboard for input. Maybe we can innovate on the | keyboard part so it can fit in your pocket | thesuperbigfrog wrote: | >> The thought of using vim on a phone gives me mild anxiety | but I'll definitely check termux! | | termux also has emacs, nano, and a few other text editors. | barbazoo wrote: | I know I know that's why I'm giving it a shot :) | thesuperbigfrog wrote: | >> I've been programming on my phone with termux + vim. It's | been sort of a delight. | | Seconded. | | With Termux (https://termux.dev/en/) I have C, C++, Rust, Go, | Perl, Python, Ruby, and more in my pocket. | | The screen is small, but the tools are mostly the same you | would find on your favorite *nix box. | | No network connection needed beyond getting the packages you | want installed. | abxytg wrote: | I love it. The next app that eats our lunch is going to be | written by some kid on a school bus. That is killer. | pbiggar wrote: | Very very cool. Have been thinking about this for Darklang for a | while. One thing that's changed since I started thinking about it | is how big a deal AI assist is. | | Originally, I thought a structured editor would be essential, but | now while it's helpful, I think AI assist can do like 90% the | benefit you get. | asadlionpk wrote: | is darklang going anywhere? It's a good tech demo but is there | a product market fit yet? | pbiggar wrote: | Lol, thanks for asking! Yeah, I think we're making progress. | There's a lot to do, and I feel it is getting done (see | progress at https://darklang.com/changelog). | | I don't believe we have product market fit yet, the plan goes | like this: | | - rebuild the technical foundations (DONE) | | - fix a lot of the jankiness in the editor <- we are here now | | - make sure language is fully baked (coming soon) | | - add a package manager/user management | | I think the last step is where we'll start to see some | product market fit. | petercooper wrote: | For some reason the video in the post refuses to load for me, but | it's also at | https://twitter.com/Replit/status/1582750139621380096 - it's not | for me, but it's a compelling pitch and I wish them every | success. I'm a Replit user simply to use it as a clean testbed | for various experiments and the value I get for $7/mo is very | good. | gmaster1440 wrote: | I'm seeing a lot of responses clarifying that this app is | designed for folks who either can't afford to code from a | computer (for various reasons outside of their control) or want | to quickly prototype ideas or make changes to existing projects. | To better illustrate my skepticism (and bias), I'd like to invoke | an imperfect analogy to writing novels. | | Imagine a mobile notes app that touts an impressive list of | features and ergonomics that allows anyone to write the next | novel from anywhere. You no longer need a computer or even an | internet connection, just the $100 phone in your pocket and the | desire to put words on (digital) paper. It'll even figure out | what you're writing about and suggest novel plot devices and | character arcs to add to your work in progress. | | This sounds great on the surface, and it will definitely | encourage more people to feel comfortable writing more often, | which will no doubt lead to more literature being written as a | result, much of which will benefit from the creative AI-injected | prose. | | The main issue as I see it (and I realize the analogy to writing | novels is imperfect), is that the environment in which you're | writing, navigating, executing, and debugging code contributes | greatly to one's productivity and the quality of the final | product. I can see the argument for being more of a playground | for toy projects and ideas (much like a note-taking app), but I | struggle to see this taking over as the primary tool by which | technology companies are built. | runevault wrote: | At least one novel I'm aware of that was traditionally | published was written on a phone, I think a Blackberry, mostly | during commutes. | | https://bgr.com/general/the-novel-on-the-f-train-an-intervie... | gmaster1440 wrote: | For sure, hence an imperfect analogy, and I have no doubt | some cool projects will come out of this replit mobile app | too. I just don't see it becoming the weapon of choice for | most production development environments. | runevault wrote: | Oh yeah I wouldn't want to do anything serious on a phone | period, well with the caveat I find it weirdly easier to | write rough drafts of poetry on my phone and I have no idea | why. | haolez wrote: | The only issue that I see is that it's a proprietary solution | that no one knows where it's going to be in the future. | | I'm not trying to be harsh on Replit. They are just starting, | after all, and my point above can be addressed in due time if | they feel like doing so. | Jtsummers wrote: | The languages are all bog standard and you can configure the | environment for execution via Nix. Not on the mobile (or I've | missed it) but via the website you can connect projects to | git repos. So none of the data is locked in in any way. | | In principle, this means you should be able to clone any | project and run it on your own machine(s) with little effort | if you're aware of how to set up nix and git in the first | place. | joshxyz wrote: | never as the primary tool of course, but it's great for | starters. | gmaster1440 wrote: | This is one of those examples for me where the idea is far | superior than the implementation. The idea of anyone being able | to quickly write code from anywhere, as the main promo video | suggests, is fantastic and greatly motivating. In practice, | coding on an iPhone (even with an innovative new joystick), is | gimmicky at best, given how deeply ingrained good ergonomics are | in the coding process. | | I struggle to see this as one of those "bicycle for the mind" | products, hope I'm wrong! | ebiester wrote: | This may be an example of skating to where the puck is at. | | Consider that the new iPad has the same power as a desktop and | can be used with a desktop monitor. (This is the $450 version.) | You can also connect an iPhone to a display to an HDMI monitor, | but they haven't done the work to have a desktop mode yet. | Android desktop mode but they haven't been . If iphone cracks | it, android will have to catch up. | | Phones have the power today and they have the storage today. | It's just missing the work and make an external keyboard and | storage display a first class experience. | | And the moment you can can add a $100 monitor, a $15 cable, and | a $40 bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo, you are at a developer | machine for about $150 over their phone that they have anyway. | lupire wrote: | What do you call a phone with a big external keyboard and | display? | | A developer machine like that is already $150, called a | Chromebook or a Raspberry Pi. | morby wrote: | Chromebooks and raspberry pis don't detach from their | keyboard and display to become mobile smartphones | neb_b wrote: | This is mostly aimed at people who don't have the luxury of | coding from a computer. | | See this tweet from the CEO: | https://twitter.com/amasad/status/1582754947480793093 | | > We partnered with @TeamMindjoy to test the app by teaching | girls how to code in a South African township and we made a | video about it. During this time the wifi was super unstable | and the few laptops they had were unusable, but kids continued | to code on $100 Android phones! | amasad wrote: | Yes we have stories from all over the world where people are | using mobile to build real things. There is a kid in Egypt, | for example, that built discord bots for a living on his | phone. | | Additionally there are also lots of cases were fairly well | off folks with access to desktop computers and wifi that find | themselves with a phone and want to prototype an idea or make | a quick change to a project. I've been using it and I find it | relaxing to lay back on the couch and do some fun coding. | Especially with Ghostwriter (our Copilot-like thing: | https://blog.replit.com/ai) it's super usable. I built large | part of my toy Lisp in Python in the app while in the park, | waiting at the doctor's office, or simply relaxing after a | long day: https://replit.com/@amasad/Lisp-in-Python | lupire wrote: | I appreciate the spirit but you are going to destroy your | eyes doing that. At least grab a tablet. | theGnuMe wrote: | I use google remote desktop to check on some IDE code and | sometimes need to type a bit of code and the default | keyboard is useless... | | I'd pay just for the joystick keyboard. | barbazoo wrote: | > During this time the wifi was super unstable | | Unless I'm doing something wrong it seem that you still have | to be online to create and run code. | ignoramous wrote: | For folks in the global south who might own a smartphone but | not a macbook, a native mobile dev env is god-sent. For others, | the Replit mobile app is but a _start_ , even if it looks like | a toy, and can help in building only toy apps, and deal only | with toy codebases. This is a start in the _right_ direction. | | Besides, in the future, more advances in AI might mean, folks | only need to key in prompts. | alexashka wrote: | Isn't this entire problem addressed by having an 11" laptop? | | I struggle to see what this is good for, besides solving LeetCode | and/or other small, isolated, well defined puzzles on a small | screen. | barbazoo wrote: | Not everyone has a laptop is the point I think. | tpmx wrote: | I think they'll make more money from relatively affluent | people than from people that can't really afford access to a | proper screen/keyboard with superior ergonomics. | xnx wrote: | I'm bullish on this because mobile (and web) development is | ridiculously overcomplicated to a beginner. I think it's a common | misconception that coding/logic is difficult. I find the | development setup and deployment to be much more complicated. As | evidence, take a look at the impressive workarounds that citizen | developers use to make things work in an easy environment like | Excel. | | A keyboard and mouse probably solve most of the complaints in | this thread. | duped wrote: | > I find the development setup and deployment to be much more | complicated | | My understanding is that is the problem repl.it is trying to | solve. In a sentence: think about your code and not your | environment. | | My curmudgeonly self thinks that there are deeper problems and | externalities that programming on a phone/tablet or in the web | only exasperate. Computer literacy is shockingly poor among the | incoming generation of people who have only used mobile | devices, WebUIs, and maybe a Chromebook - and that's not the | fault of people or technology, but the business models that | only succeed by locking users into platforms and hiding details | of how those platforms work. The issue with programming on | mobile or through something like repl.it is that it hides _too_ | much - at the end of the day, tinkering with computers requires | computers that can be tinkered _with_ and software systems that | can be introspected. | Terretta wrote: | > _The issue with programming on mobile or through something | like repl.it is that it hides too much_ | | VT100 and IBM360, you didn't have to be in the mainframe room | to learn to code. | 015a wrote: | I'm, generally, not bullish: But only because the predominating | "what value do products like this bring" arguments from those | who are bullish is some variation of "it's great for | learning/beginners". That's simply no way to build a venture | business (and replit has received... $105M). | | Higher layers of abstraction can make sense; no code tools can | be killer; but that isn't really replit. Replit is just a weird | product on the side of the abstraction spectrum which requires | its devs to understand a large chunk of what would be required | to get, say, a nodejs server running on, say, Heroku. | ramenator wrote: | I think the idea here is to enable people in places of the | world that may not have laptops, where mobile phones are | people's only computer. That's how I'm looking at this, but | that's just my guess. | dumpHero2 wrote: | Think people with chromebooks or old laptops who cannot use | it for development. Or restricted laptops loaned from school | which do not allow anyone but admin access to install | anything. | xnx wrote: | I agree. I think it's great. I was trying to point out that | most(?) Android and iOS devices allow you to connect any | cheap USB or Bluetooth keyboard. | quechimba wrote: | My MacBook Pro died from humidity while I was trapped in | the amazon rainforest during the panedemic, and I had to do | some work, so I bought an USB keyboard in Iquitos and I set | up a development environment with postgres, vim, tmux, | ruby, rails etc, inside Termux. Small screen, and no | devtools in mobile browsers, but worked pretty good | otherwise. | jrm4 wrote: | I suppose I'm "bearish" on selling development as it presently | exists for the exact same reason? | | Right now, what's being sold is "more people can go into the | career of programming" as opposed to "no really, it's possible | to bring so-called 'programming' to everyone.'" | | Put differently, it wasn't that Hypercard didn't catch on, it's | that things like Hypercard get "killed." | epolanski wrote: | And how is repl.it different here compared to GitHub | codespaces, codepens, codesandbox and many others? | bidirectional wrote: | Are any of those workable on a phone? | barbazoo wrote: | It would be really cool if this worked offline but I get how hard | that is to do. | flappyeagle wrote: | I want a token based keyboard with the following properties | | Language and syntax awareness. When I'm writing JavaScript - it | should provide keys for 'if' 'each' 'function' etc. | | When I have unbalanced parens, braces etc, it should tell me how | many levels deep I am and what context I'm in. | | Instead of me naming variables it should generate random names | and let me declare with a single tap. Provide easy refactoring | tools so I can rename them later. | | On mobile I want to manipulate symbols or the AST directly rather | than rely on text input. | | Take advantage of a keyboard that can display infinite variation | and change on the fly. | ellis0n wrote: | Lets follow and try much better alternative | https://twitter.com/AcpuStudio because amjad replit copy our | ideas without consensus with us | r3trohack3r wrote: | Excited to see more mobile first development experiences. | | I didn't think I'd use them, but Autocode's WebUI works on mobile | and I've found myself tweaking app logic from my couch for a Halo | integration. | | For more in-depth focused work, I prefer a keyboard and mouse. | But fixing a quick edge case I missed? It's super handy to be | able to tweak a few lines of code with the device in my pocket. | another_story wrote: | As a teacher the basic Replit stuff is great, but their class | management stuff is atrocious and unintuitive. For example, under | one class I created 9 units with a number of challenges under | each unit. You copy that to a new class (Team is what they call | it) and all sections disappear). Then if you want to reorganize, | even if there are sections, you have to drag and drop, scrolling | up or down the page and repeating the drag to get it to the right | section. | | Another thing is when you organize sections there is no drag and | drop, but arrows moving boxes up and down. | | I've sent in dozens of issues for various bugs and annoyances, | and even dug into the js to point out how to fix things, but | after nearly 2 years they are still there. | abdellah123 wrote: | Very cool and exciting Kudos | | A very annoying bug is that the first chatacter is a capital | letter in mobile. And parentheses are not suggested along with | brackets and curly braces. | russellbeattie wrote: | Microsoft's "Touch Develop" research project from a decade ago | was actually amazingly productive and usable. It made each | separate part of a line of code into a selectable element, and | used predictive analysis to guess what your next entry would be | with surprising accuracy. So, for example, if you've already | created a variable within a specific scope like a function, when | you've come to a point in a line where a variable would be useful | like "a += [variable could go here]", you could just tap-select | it from a list. Since the named elements were kept track of, you | could select and rename a variable or function and it would | automatically be changed everywhere. You could grab whole | functions like this and move them around as needed. | | It had some clunky bits and had to use its own language, but I've | been surprised some of the ideas of the system hasn't made its | way into normal IDEs. The key advantage is that you never had to | worry about syntax. You couldn't forget a semicolon, because you | were never typing out a line, just picking and choosing from | options, while still piecing together a line of code as you would | if you were typing it out manually. It was a higher level than | normal coding, but well below something like Blockly. I think for | beginners - who really struggle with syntax - it was brilliant, | and even for more advanced developers it would be sort of handy | not having to do find/replace or copy/paste and missing that last | bracket or whatever. | | Conceptually, imagine that instead of writing out a line of code | as a text sentence, you were assembling the program's syntax tree | by choosing from a pile of premade items you've created, and then | being able to grab whole branches at a time and manipulate them. | It was an interesting experiment. | | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/touchdevelo... | netfortius wrote: | Five times attempting to create an account by using a Google | account, on Android phone, five times phone receiving request for | approval, five times approving the request, five times bouncing | back to the app on the "create an account" state. | sirjaz wrote: | Is there any hope for a native desktop app? | kasajian wrote: | I'm all for native desktop apps, but do you have a particular | reason for this over what you can do through the web-browser? | It works very well as is, and if it were to run as a desktop | app, it would basically do what the web version does but in a | desktop form-factor. Which I suspect is not what you want, but | you want some features that are missing in the web app, right? | if so, what are those? | DeathArrow wrote: | I would like to code on a smartwatch, please. And on the | dishwasher lcd. | babl-yc wrote: | Did anyone else learn to code on a TI-83+? | | Although I doubt I'd use this in a professional setting, making | coding accessible to more people sounds great to me. | victor9000 wrote: | Yep, TI-81 here | Jtsummers wrote: | Tandy 1000, parents sold it. Then TI-85 until a student I was | tutoring stole it. Then a TI-86 and HP-48G, plus a high school | CS class that used True BASIC on some kind of Macintosh, and by | that point C++ and others on my PC at home. | | But a lot of time in chemistry and on the school bus rides was | spent programming on my calculators. | orliesaurus wrote: | This app makes sense when: | | - You're just solving "seriousplay" i.e. code challenges | | - Most of the code is boilerplate and you can inject a couple of | variables here and there and press a button to deploy | | - Quickly fix something that can be done on the fly while you're | sitting in the underground (typos, small PRs) | | - Any future where AI takes over and starts suggesting the code | you want to write and literally takes your hand and guides you, | so you write better code faster. | Jyaif wrote: | I originally thought that programming on phones was ridiculous, | but then I remembered that I did a great deal of programming on | TI calculators when I was a kid. | mradek wrote: | On a related note, it would be cool if there was a "coding mode" | mobile keyboard option. We have built-in keyboards for phone | number and formatters for particular things. | | It would be cool to have a built-in coding keyboard that adapts | to the language being written via plugins, etc. | swyx wrote: | i would kill for browser devtools in mobile safari. so many | things i want to edit oneoff | emdashcomma wrote: | I agree. A great start would even be to do something like what | iSH does, where you have buttons for tab, control, escape, and | a similar joystick for the arrow keys. As of now, I can't issue | a tab in the shell, for example. | evan_ wrote: | definitely would be nice to have but also don't forget that you | can connect any bluetooth keyboard to an iPhone. | [deleted] | d0mine wrote: | There are such things e.g., Pythonista 3rd party keyboard on | iOS (android is even more likely to support custom keyboards). | sva_ wrote: | Login for a text editor. The mobile phone software experience | sucks (in general). | cantaloupe wrote: | Wow! I haven't used it yet, but I'm impressed by the demos. Seems | like just the mobile editor with joystick and autocompletion | would be a viable product by itself, not to mention the power of | repl.it behind it. | sneilan1 wrote: | I already have a mobile editing setup using blinkssh, Tailscale, | mosh, tmux, lunarvim, typescript and Lsp servers on my iPhone 13. | It works surprisingly well and while it's slow to code on, I can | actually do it. Autocomplete works too and typescript really | helpful in catching bugs made by bad keyboard strokes. | | It won't ever replace my mouse and keyboard but it is useable. | Just slow. | aryamaan wrote: | I like what Replit is doing with Ghost writing, and having DB, | Auth, Analytics available for their Repls. | | I wish all of these things were available with my current IDE. | Replit is winning in other things and lacking in IDE game. | | I also know that building rich IDE is not as much priority for | them as much is onboarding new users to start programming on | Replit. | | It's just that I would enjoy all the features they are building | with the comform of my existing Jetbrains IDEs | msoad wrote: | Thinking of all the kids in lower income situations that only | have an Android phone as their only computing device and how | Replit will make it possible for them to discover their talent | and passion for programming makes me so happy! | | Imagine learning how to code well enough, get paid for it to buy | your first computer! | | Great work! | user3939382 wrote: | This is the founder who turned into a psycho tyrant (I forget his | exact words, but something to the effect of, "we're not the same | small company, I have money and lawyers now") on an ex-employee | for an innocent side project, threatened to sue him, etc, until | it went viral and then backpedaled and offered some non-apology. | | I remember stuff like that and will never use this company's | tools, which is a shame because I was a fan prior to that. | etaioinshrdlu wrote: | Let it be a lesson... Hacker News never forgets? | golergka wrote: | What if the founder is really a bad guy, but the product | company releases is useful and could really improve lives of | many. Should we use it and advertise to others who might find | it useful? Or should we abstain from it to punish bad | behaviour? Those aren't rhetorical questions, I honestly don't | know. | Aliabid94 wrote: | A company is more than the personality of its CEO. Gates, | Zuckerburg or Elon's personal faults shouldn't override the | work and mission of thousands others. | victor9000 wrote: | I would argue the exact opposite. Companies like Amazon and | SpaceX have shaped their entire company culture using the | values of their respective CEOs. | sneak wrote: | It depends on the CEO. I think SpaceX reflects more on the | culture of the COO than the CEO; the company does not | operate like the CEO does. | duncan-donuts wrote: | A company usually mirrors the values of its executives. | You're right it shouldn't override the mission of the many, | but the faults are baked in there somewhere. | cpsns wrote: | It often does though, which is why having the right people in | high positions is important. The CEO is the face of the | company and for better or worse the company will be judged by | their actions to some degree. | smnrchrds wrote: | IIRC, not even an ex-employee, but an ex-intern. | sneak wrote: | I have a similar story about DigitalOcean from when I published | the fact that they were intentionally leaking customer data | cross-account because they didn't understand thin/sparse | provisioning of block devices. | | One time I was interviewing somewhere and the interviewer spent | the whole call super unprofessionally trashing a close personal | friend of mine (also prominent in the industry) when I had | mentioned working with them on some research. | | I think everyone paying attention in this industry has a list | of companies and people we will never work with. | ilrwbwrkhv wrote: | Oh wow that is really bad. | | I remember YC pushing them heavily as a unicorn for a few days | seemingly out of nowhere a while back, but that blitz has since | died down. | | Remains to be seen if they can be an actual viable business. | the_gipsy wrote: | Paul regularly still pushes replit on his twitter. | bin_bash wrote: | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27424195 | joshxyz wrote: | damn that thread really got 4k internet points >.< | | i dont know if that guy ever got his act straight but im still | rooting for their company, especially for third-world countries | where students only got mobile devices and got no access to | computers and laptops. | | it was horrible seeing students not being able to do hands-on | activities during the recent covid years. let alone other | problems like dysfunctional / laggy / buggy low-end mobiles, | slow internet connection, oh dear. | ellis0n wrote: | Amjad copy 5 of 5 ideas of our 10 years development startup | for mobile coding from Ukraine where World War right now. See | also my comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267464 | sneak wrote: | Copying ideas is only a threat if you think the copying | party is: | | 1) better at executing than you | | and | | 2) understands the market better than you | | It is generally accepted wisdom that if someone copies you, | you are doing something right and should focus on | fundamentals and shipping/customers. | ellis0n wrote: | Okay... | | Did you read my link post | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267464 ? | | 1) No. I'm not dumb and programming language author, CTO, | polygot, architect, old school, and make better software | all my life. I made the world's first mobile IDE and | real-time reverse debugger | | 2) No. 4k likes HN post shows the opposite. I asked Amjad | for help while COVID-19 because no job, no money, don't | know what to do and this people said him is investor and | looks relevant from Pioneer.app startup accelerator. | Market - yes US vs Ukraine, non-competitive advantage. In | my opinion, now we have a war in Ukraine and many victims | due to the fact that we did not support people correctly. | I ask Amjad for help directly. Here is the mail log: | | --- | | MAIL 1 | | From: Viktor <viktor.XXXX@gmail.com> | | To: amjad@repl.it | | Hello Amjad! | | I'm Victor https://clubavatar.app/ on pioneer | | I'm developing ACPUL programming language and | AnimationCPU programming platform (like Flash/HTML5) | | - ACPUL is a pure programming language | | - Reactive and live coding is everywhere | | - Mobile IDE (iPad Pro with keyboard) | | - Real-time reverse debugger (like https://rr- | project.org/ with 60 fps and less ram) | | - Full git and video history (Bret Victor inventing on | principle) | | - Team development and other features... | | Due to lack of resources, a hercules amount of work I'm | looking an any support | | You can see demo on your iOS device with TestFlight | | --- | | MAIL 2 | | From: Amjad Masad <amjad@repl.it> | | To: Viktor <viktor.XXXX@gmail.com> | | Hey Viktor, | | This looks interesting -- how can I help? | | Amjad | | --- | | MAIL 3 | | Hi Amjad, | | I am looking for a way to fund projects, expand the team, | to improve Animation CPU programming platform and virtual | club Avatar | | 1) Donations / Sponsorship: Support ACPU / ACPUL open | source development | | 2) Investments in clubavatar.app | | 3) Technical work: improving the programming language, | libraries, platform, documentation, educational lessons, | more code/nocode apps and examples, UI, IDE, etc | | 4) I am looking for a mentor to improve my open source | community and communication skills, social media, etc | | Thanks, Victor | | --- | | MAIL 4 | | Hi Amjad, | | As a program architect I highlight weak points in the | previous mail (19 Aug 2020) | | In other words, I have a huge technical debt for new | components, and a small debt to launch my application, | but I don't have the funds for normal work. I just need a | little help to kickoff my app to AppStore and generate | the revenue. And it's much better than an app! This is a | new world that likes everyone. You like it, djs like it, | childrens like it, hackers like it, anyone likes it! I | don't see a reason to spend my time for work on another | world 1.0 react-bla-bla-bla app to develop a world 2.0 | app. I spent a huge amount of my time on social and | financial issues and app doesn't work | | I'm not sure what is best reward for you. I can add | Repl.it AD on top IDE, make a Repl.it demo and animation, | make a app pushares (store), or something like that | | Best regards, Victor | | --- | | MAIL 5 | | Hey Viktor, | | Just a bit of feedback for you. It's still not clear to | me what your project is about. I suggest simplifying it | into something someone can understand in two sentences. | | Best, | | Amjad | | <<< WTF??? "It's still not clear to me what your project | is about." <<< in this mail he appllied steal everything | and start working for replit a one year! | | 5 of 5 my projects in replit now!!! | | COOL??? | | Due this my project delayed for extra 2 years but you got | replit. | | Looks like good social engineering | | PS: I can attach screenshots of Gmail and I hope that | after the Google Replit presentation they don't delete my | emails and copy everything together without payment for | ideas (c) | ZephyrBlu wrote: | - The purpose of the project isn't clear (Trying to do | heaps of different things) | | - Your ask was not clear (Asking for help with | everything) | | - It's not clear which 5 projects/ideas Replit "stole" | | I have nothing to do with Replit and I dislike them after | the intern project thing, but this is fair criticism from | Amjad. | aaronvg wrote: | sorry but I think the features you listed as being stolen | seem pretty generic. For example "mobile IDE (ipad pro | with keyboard)" doesn't tell me what specific IDE | features you'd implement. In this case, Replit made the | "joystick" feature. Same with "team development and other | features". | | Also it seems you're blaming Amjad for your project being | delayed? Not sure how that is related. | naillo wrote: | Replit recently raised a bunch of money and have really raised | their advertising focus enormously. I'm seeing so much hype from | them but so underwhelming actual value provided. | Kiro wrote: | What? This is awesome. | naillo wrote: | You really think so? Stuff like this has existed for a while | you tired real quick of doing anything significant on your | phone (having tried a few before). | csmeyer wrote: | I think it's great that they've identified cursor placement as | one of the trickier aspects of coding on a phone. The joystick is | a great idea, I found it a bit hard to use at first (kind of | flies around the screen) but the little buttons are good for | getting your cursor inside a string literal, for example. | | I'm excited to get my students trying this, many of them only | have a school issued iPad. I'm also curious about how well the | autocomplete can be tuned. I think right now suggestions are a | bit rough, I'm hopeful they'll start using language server | suggestions soon. (Something like System.out.println, you should | definitely get out as an option after System.) | Firmwarrior wrote: | How's it compare to the "space bar trick" on iOS? That thing | usually seems to work to let me position the cursor how I want | Jtsummers wrote: | Just tried it, you can use both within the text editor. I | prefer the spacebar "trick". It was much smoother, I had | trouble stopping at lines in the middle because it seemed too | sensitive for up/down movement. The spacebar long press let | me position the cursor anywhere within the text on the | screen. | tobr wrote: | The joystick feels like a worse and redundant version of | iOS's built in spacebar-as-trackpad feature, but having | buttons to step left and right is useful. | [deleted] | fungiblecog wrote: | This looks awesome... installs app on iPad... oh it doesn't | support the full screen. Useless. | epolanski wrote: | I love coding on my tablet via codespaces. | | It's perfect for pre bed time when I'm more interested in | learning software than implementing features. | | The experience isn't perfect because vs code was never meant to | be a mobile editor but for writing few locs and trying stuff is | okay. | boberoni wrote: | I read on another comment by a high school teacher that many of | their students write essays on mobile. It seems that the younger | generations are mobile-digital native, as opposed to desktop- | digital native. | | I don't expect desktop apps to be completely replaced by mobile | apps, but the migration of some specific use cases is interesting | to watch: | | - Maps and navigation | | - Email / instant messaging | | - Photo editing | | - Video editing | | - Online shopping | | - Banking and accounting | | - and now, coding | yieldcrv wrote: | I recently read that many young people only use email for some | professional communication | | And its chat for everything else, including professional | things, which also matches my experience lately I just didn't | think about it | | So then I started messaging young recruiters over chat apps and | they are much more receptive than following up over | linkedin/email | troupe wrote: | Is it because they are "mobile-digital native" or is it because | what they are being asked to write is closer to texting than a | normal high school level English paper? I've seen what | community college teachers are having kids submit for papers. | While they do definitely look like they could have been written | on a phone, it isn't because they have some type of skill in | writing on mobile. | Sirened wrote: | Most of the paper-writing-on-phones that I've seen is just a | convenience thing. Google Docs/other cloud writing platforms | make your documents available everywhere, and it turns out | that there's a lot of down time where you can cram in some | writing time if you're able to easily just pull it up on your | phone. I remember writing papers on my phone in high school | while on/waiting waiting for the bus. If you live near a | college campus, you'll see a lot of students watching | lectures, doing flash cards, and writing papers on public | transit if you look close enough :) | sneak wrote: | I think the idea of the quality of text written being related | to the screen size of the device on which it was input is an | old person anachronism. | | This would be like saying novel quality written in a word | processor would be inferior to typing on a typewriter, or | handwritten. | | I write and edit almost all my HN comments on a phone, and I | think they're identical in quality and tone to what I'd write | on a computer. | ndneighbor wrote: | It's honestly impressive the amount of coding that young people | do from their phones. There is a very healthy healthy community | of those who have some solid environments on their (mostly | Android) devices. Whats funny is that this was the dream of the | One Laptop per Child non-profit that was solved by the flush of | ARM devices instead of donor dollars (ftw free market!) | | I work at Railway and a lot of our younger, international users | use Railway from their phones (usually in class) and it's quite | impressive. Honestly, such a fan of Repl.it its why I am a | customer of their service and this is a step in the right | direction for the dream of the universal runtime. | joshxyz wrote: | still the best time to be alive. it's crazy i can ssh to my | servers using my phones these days. | simonebrunozzi wrote: | This is going to be simply great for students. I bet Replit will | get a huge boost in usage. Well done. | kasajian wrote: | Very little innovation is done in the area of coding on a small- | form mobile device. Early attempts are needed in order to get | feedback and learn from experience what works and what doesn't. | | It's nice to see repl.it is at least attempting to address this | "market". Their previous mobile app was so bad I uninstalled it | and used the web site directly instead. Hopefully this works | better. | kasajian wrote: | Still doesn't work. | | 1. Already have an account 2. Continue with Github 3. Blank | white screen and just stays there. | | I think I'll wait. | jessenichols wrote: | Repit support here: dm'd you on twitter to figure this out. | swyx wrote: | i had 1 and 2 same as you, didn't get 3. just worked as | expected. | | you may just be unlucky. | samsquire wrote: | I use Repl.it web interface for programming on the sofa from my | Android phone. There's various bugs in the editor but it works | well enough. | | I currently subscribe to repl.it. the freedom to quickly create a | Java or Python project is really easy and helps me work on | problems where I want to write a small amount of code that is at | the idea stage. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-10-19 23:00 UTC)