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Susan Kare Designed User-Friendly Icons for the First Macintosh
Author : kiyanwang
Score : 35 points
Date : 2022-10-20 06:10 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
| jbjbjbjb wrote:
| Am I right in thinking she created the icons which is the end
| product but would have built the process and a whole business
| around it through her firm? That is super impressive. I would
| like to read more on that part of her career.
| rjsw wrote:
| There are several pages that mention her on Andy Hertzfeld's
| website [1], one page written by her.
|
| [1]
| https://www.folklore.org/ProjectView.py?project=Macintosh&ch...
| mistrial9 wrote:
| I saw Susan demo these in person at the time, but I was startled
| at the size of the diamonds she was wearing to an ordinary
| meeting. Others did icon design at that time, its not clear to me
| that hers were so much better.. but those diamonds spoke volumes.
| dangus wrote:
| Amazing to me that in 2022 people are still making comments
| about the appearance and dress of women as if it's relevant to
| their work.
|
| God forbid a woman wear what she wants to a meeting without men
| having a say.
|
| "I saw Steve demo the iPod shuffle at the time and while it was
| a pretty average MP3 player I was startled at his choice of a
| black turtleneck. It's not clear that his MP3 player was that
| much better. His turtleneck spoke volumes."
| lostgame wrote:
| Amazing in 2022 our bullshit woke culture is unable to
| distinguish between actual sexist discrimination and simply
| pointing out a display of wealth.
|
| It's frustrating because actual, meaningful cases of
| discrimination, sexism, etc; get lost in this kind of noise.
| :(
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| Well, if you picked an example for men as ostentatious as
| large diamonds, like a garish suit, maybe it wouldn't sound
| so silly.
|
| Besides, people comment on Jobs' clothing all the time not to
| mention the appearance of men in general so it's unclear what
| double standard you think you're demonstrating beyond the
| trope of it being bad to comment on someone's looks only if
| they're a woman.
| russellbeattie wrote:
| So I bought a big print of the famous Mac "hello" from Susan
| Kare's site [1]. It's very cool, she signed and numbered it.
|
| But after I got it and stared at it for a while, I realized it's
| not the exact same as in the original commercials [2], but it is
| the same as in some old magazine ads [3] and the one they used
| for the iMac anniversary edition [4]. Recently, Apple updated the
| original design in high rez with rainbow colors in their recent
| brand refresh [5]. You can easily see the difference in the "h",
| which has a loop on one and is straight in the other.
|
| I emailed Kare a few years ago and asked about the differences
| and she said she only remembers doing the one that's on her site
| and isn't sure where the other one came from.
|
| I think I discovered an unknown Mac mystery!!
|
| Here's my best guess at an Occam's Razor explanation: Susan
| created the original loopy hello. Later, some magazine artist was
| laying out the ad and decided to clean up the letters a little
| bit. Fast forward a decade and someone at Apple decides to use
| the hello for the iMac and grabs an old magazine to use as a
| template. Later still, Susan sets up her website and is
| collecting together her art and somehow ends up with the modified
| version, as around that time, that was the hello being advertised
| by Apple. Not noticing the subtle difference, she slapped it on
| the site without much thought. Even later, Apple decides to
| reintroduce the hello, but this time they did their research (or,
| more likely, the web exists now making it easier to find) and
| used the original as a template.
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| 1. https://kareprints.com/products/hello-on-
| blue?_pos=2&_sid=28...
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| 2.
| https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/29370-47319-000-3x2...
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| 3.
| https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/8a/9f/588a9fceb5a3b24cc582...
|
| 4. https://media.techeblog.com/images/apple-
| imac-g3-anniversary...
|
| 5. https://9to5mac.com/wp-
| content/uploads/sites/6/2021/04/Scree...
| bombcar wrote:
| I think I see at least three versions. At least to me the o
| looks different in the print and (3). The line coming in comes
| in at a tangent or kind of dead ends.
| dewey wrote:
| She also has a nice online store with signed prints
| (https://kareprints.com). I bought two a while ago and I still
| enjoy them, framed in my living room, every day.
| bombcar wrote:
| For all the howling about Apple it's nice to see that these are
| "Used with permission".
| nullcaution wrote:
| Whos howling? There is only one sub comments here.
| neilv wrote:
| 1984 "Computer Chronicles" segment of Susan Kare demoing the Mac,
| for anyone who hasn't seen it already (or who wants to watch it
| again, which you well might):
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWOtf4Ziso
| [deleted]
| bigiain wrote:
| Heh. I remember back in the mid/late 90s, a friend of mine (now
| my brother in law) spent 6 weeks or so contracting at Apple, and
| managed to pick me up a DogCow t-shirt that wasn't available
| except to Apple staff. My other Mac/Apple fanboy friends were
| _so_ jealous!
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