[HN Gopher] Apple calls on global supply chain to decarbonize by... ___________________________________________________________________ Apple calls on global supply chain to decarbonize by 2030 Author : mfiguiere Score : 20 points Date : 2022-10-25 22:09 UTC (50 minutes ago) (HTM) web link (www.apple.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.apple.com) | lizardactivist wrote: | Apple letting people know how they're championing environmental | initiatives, all while their high horse is shitting out earpods | and other disposable electronics at inflated prices like there's | no tomorrow unless the billions roll in. | adamwk wrote: | Are you talking about AirPods? Everyone I know (myself | included) keeps theirs longer than most people keep phones | CivBase wrote: | Most pairs of cheap earbuds I own are older than the AirPods | have been around. | JaggerJo wrote: | Have my first pair still in use. | amelius wrote: | How long you keep them is only one side of the story. The | other side is how often you buy stuff. You could make an | argument that the average person buys more electronics | because Apple started pushing it to the market. | bamboozled wrote: | Too little too late. | it_citizen wrote: | Slightly unrelated: In your opinion, is Apple part of the most | ethical large tech companies? Which other company do you put up | there? | | (And yes, I know the bar is probably pretty low) | cercatrova wrote: | Ethical in what areas? They're pretty good with their | environmental reforms after Tim Cook took the helm (I'm not | talking about removing the headphone jack or lack of chargers | in boxes, but having mostly paper packaging which he needed to | convince Jobs to adopt, the book Tim Cook is a great | introduction), but the way they take 30% off every transaction | and generally act like an artifical gatekeeper when IMO they | should be more intercompatible with other companies, is | unethical to me. | ben_w wrote: | I would say yes; the other big names on my list would be | Netflix, Google, Microsoft, and Tesla/SpaceX. | | And yes, that's despite the controversies; none of them seem to | me to be _actively_ evil, merely giants who tread incautiously. | 1-6 wrote: | When future earnings become problematic, shift the topic to clean | energy initiatives to artificially limit production. | smoldesu wrote: | Very convenient, considering the company with the most money | can buy the most carbon credits! | ben_w wrote: | They've been saying this kind of thing since before they were a | mere single trillion dollar market capitalisation. (Currently | $2.4 trillion, IIRC). | gjsman-1000 wrote: | OK then. Put your money where your mouth is, Apple, and send some | checks to UPS, FedEx, DHL, Foxconn, TSMC, Samsung, 3M, BOE, | Flextronics, Hitachi, LG, Micron, Molex, Nidec, NXP, Panasonic, | Pegatron, Qualcomm, Skyworks, Sony, STMicroelectronics, Texas | Instruments, and all of your other hundreds of suppliers and get | them carbon neutral. Otherwise it's just a "we call on" when you | are fully capable of "we funded everybody to the point where." | | If this is truly a climate emergency, that cash (what was it, | $200B in reserves?) is a small price to pay, and would help a | long way for companies that can't afford it like you can. | Otherwise keep your mouth shut - it's nothing more than a "we | really think you should spend your money on..." at best and a | "spend your profits on this or else" at worst. | mensetmanusman wrote: | This is easier to say when you design how things should be built | versus actually building things, but it is a great goal. | | Apple could do so much more for the environment, but it would | hurt their profits. | esskay wrote: | That last part could be said of most corporations. The | difference is Apple has so far backed it up with concrete proof | that they genuinely have at very least done something, even if | its not as much as we'd all like. | kieranmaine wrote: | To offer an alternative view to those bashing Apple it appears | they have made solid progress on reducing emissions over the last | 5 years. Some concrete stats on their emissions reductions can be | found on page 84 on this report | https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Pr... | | Total gross carbon footprint (without offsets)10 (metric tons | CO2e): | | Fiscal Year 2017: 23,200,000 | | Fiscal Year 2021: 27,500,000 | | This include Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions so AFAIK includes things | like transportation of goods. | | For scope definitions see | https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/what-a... | stormbrew wrote: | Disappointing there's no explicit mention of shipping here, which | is almost certainly a huge part of things and an area where a big | mover could make a big difference for an entire industry. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-10-25 23:00 UTC)