[HN Gopher] Childhood toys: 40 years on 2-XL works just fine
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       Childhood toys: 40 years on 2-XL works just fine
        
       Author : jgrahamc
       Score  : 93 points
       Date   : 2022-10-30 12:22 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | heywire wrote:
       | Techmoan somewhat recently did a video on the 2xl, including
       | breaking down the various tracks on the 8-track.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/amuRIydCoJk
        
         | jgrahamc wrote:
         | That's cool. In the clip I posted I swear the initial sound
         | effect is actually RTTY. Anyone ever try to decode it?
        
           | lb1lf wrote:
           | I was thinking the same thing. I am not sure it is 45.45 baud
           | w/170Hz shift (taken from memory) ham RTTY, but I figured I'd
           | run it through a decoder once I got back inside the shack
           | just to see if it is an Easter egg or just random...
        
             | jgrahamc wrote:
             | I don't have much time to look deeper but around 3kHz there
             | are two peaks 300Hz apart. Wouldn't surprise me if there is
             | a signal there and could be ASCII.
        
             | jgrahamc wrote:
             | Let's see which one of us gets there first!
        
         | smcl wrote:
         | One other thing I learned from Techmoan is that one of the few
         | remaining companies making cassette playback mechanisms today
         | is a company called "Tanashin" - and I only bring that up
         | because that name is on a sticker in one of the photos inside
         | this 2-XL in jgrahamc's post.
        
           | mrob wrote:
           | According to https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-
           | last-cassette-pl... , Tanashin no longer makes tape
           | mechanisms. The so-called "Tanashin" mechanisms found in
           | modern products are actually Chinese mechanisms based on old
           | Tanashin designs.
        
             | Aeolun wrote:
             | It looks like Tanashin is out of business now. At least
             | their website returns a 401 and has for the past year or so
             | (according to the internet archive).
             | 
             | Last snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20210117133724/h
             | ttps://www.tanas...
        
             | smcl wrote:
             | Ahhh very interesting! I had no idea
        
           | jccalhoun wrote:
           | Another youtuber, VWestlife, has more technical and has
           | talked more about this. As another poster notes most of these
           | are knockoffs and even the motors are knockoffs that go so
           | far as to put the label of a more reputable company on them.
        
       | askew wrote:
       | I wonder if this acted as some inspiration for the 2-Bit
       | character in Deathloop: the vocals in particular are similar.
        
       | nahuel0x wrote:
       | Today this will be an app, probably much better in many aspects.
       | But some magic is lost by not being an specific object designed
       | for a single purpose.
        
         | m_t wrote:
         | There are plenty of "Story box" that exist now. Mixed Ng the
         | advantages of an app and the tangibility of a real object. One
         | example I know of: https://lunii.com/en-gb/
        
       | wglass wrote:
       | I'm surprised the 8 track cassette was still good. I remember
       | finding an old box of 8 tracks in the late 80s and they were
       | disintegrating. Assumed they weren't built to last for decade
       | plus. But maybe those were just stored poorly.
        
       | leobg wrote:
       | Pictures of this old, clunky circuit board bring up fond
       | memories.
        
       | madengr wrote:
       | LOL I had one of these. They made them with both red and green
       | LED for the eyes. I only got a Big Trak when I was 40 and they
       | re-released it.
        
       | jvanderbot wrote:
       | > On opening 2-XL by removing 13 screws I was ready for an
       | internal mess and had the air duster ready. But the insides were
       | pretty clean for something 44 years old.
       | 
       | If you don't have re-circulation / ventilation fans, it really
       | shouldn't get that messy if the exterior case is moderately
       | tight. My image of "old electronics" is mainly from old
       | mainframes / desktops, and those have copious fans to really suck
       | in all the dust and pet hair.
        
         | ilyt wrote:
         | It generally heavily depends on room it is in. My PC at home
         | (no AC, middle of city) pretty much needs yearly dusting, one
         | in office (AC) barely gets any dust, servers in datacenter even
         | less even after near decade of use (we had some legacy stuff)
        
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       | snickmy wrote:
       | There was an Italian equivalent version of this. I don't remember
       | the name but it was grey and blue, and it was sold circa early
       | 90s. It had the exact shape and look of this:
       | https://www.etsy.com/listing/694191660/vintage-1992-tiger-2x....
       | but without the 2xl logo. Loved how Italy was rebranding
       | everything
       | 
       | I had almost worked out myself how it worked by playing those
       | special tape in a normal recorder.
        
         | Sephiroth87 wrote:
         | Unless there were weird bootlegs going around, it was still
         | called 2-XL with the same branding
         | (https://youtu.be/aVXwo6raHoA)
        
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