[HN Gopher] Centuries-old whaling logs are filling gaps in our c...
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Centuries-old whaling logs are filling gaps in our climate
knowledge
Author : Thevet
Score : 57 points
Date : 2022-11-06 04:08 UTC (1 days ago)
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| ortusdux wrote:
| The wine industry has kept meticulous records of harvest dates
| and temperatures for centuries. This study leveraged 600+ years
| of data to show a noticeable increase in temperature and
| shortening harvest window starting in 1988.
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| https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/15/1485/2019/
| paganel wrote:
| They used to have very nice vineyards just North of Paris in
| the 1300s going into the 1500s (I may be slightly wrong on this
| last date), that sort of info doesn't get repeated often enough
| in today's climate-obsessed language.
|
| Quickly found an online source here [1]:
|
| > The Paris region was mostly planted with white, particularly
| with a variety known then under the name of Fromenteau or
| Fromentot, which is known today as the Pinot Gris.
|
| I had personally gotten that info from reading this very
| interesting book on the history of rural France during the last
| 2000 years [2]
|
| [1]
| https://www.wineterroirs.com/2012/12/wine_in_the_middle_ages...
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| [2] https://www.amazon.fr/Histoire-France-rurale-
| origines-1340/d...
| mahkeiro wrote:
| Paris was one of the 3 main wine producing region (with
| Bordeaux and Bourgogne) till the end of the 1800s. But let's
| be honest the wine wasn't really good and the main advantage
| was that it was closer to the consumers.
| jonititan wrote:
| Apparently there's also records of the Romans growing grapes
| for wine in Britain.
| eesmith wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_from_the_United_Kingdom
|
| > The Romans introduced winemaking to the UK, in a period
| with a relatively warm climate. Their vineyards were as far
| north as Northamptonshire and Lincolnshire, with others in
| Buckinghamshire and Cambridgeshire, and probably many other
| sites. The wines were most likely fruity and sweet,
| fermented with added honey, and drunk within six
| months.[15] Winemaking continued at least down to the time
| of the Normans, with over 40 vineyards in England mentioned
| in the Domesday Book; much of it was communion wine for the
| Eucharist.
|
| > ... When Henry VIII was crowned in 1509, 139 vineyards
| were recorded, 11 of which produced wine for the royal
| household ...
|
| > The twilight of British winemaking tradition was brought
| to an end with the onset of the First World War, as the
| need for crops and food, and the rationing of sugar, took
| priority over wine production. For the first time in 2000
| years, English wines were no longer being produced in
| Britain. ...
|
| > Viticulture was revived in the 1970s onwards ...
| tony_cannistra wrote:
| Another good example of this kind of thing is the first day of
| cherry blossom blooms in Kyoto. Records have been kept since 812
| AD.
|
| https://www.datagraver.com/case/kyoto-cherry-blossom-full-fl...
| mmastrac wrote:
| The continued support for climate change consensus from new
| research is good to see, but is it having an effect on the final
| ~25% of Americans that haven't believed in it yet?
|
| And as a curiosity, what happened in the late 2000s to cause
| belief in climate change to drop off a cliff, and then slowly
| creep back up?
|
| https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/visualizations-data/am...
| [deleted]
| melling wrote:
| Fox News and other media outlets
|
| https://www.foxnews.com/politics/climate-activists-embrace-d...
|
| There's also not much of attempt on the left to understand
| climate change better.
|
| Every weather disaster is directly attributed to climate
| change, even if it scientifically can't be directly linked.
|
| This convinces deniers that there isn't a problem and people
| are being "alarmists".
| ForHackernews wrote:
| Al Gore made a movie about climate change so the other team was
| obligated to violently disbelieve in it.
| mmastrac wrote:
| Oddly the political view tag suggests that it's an opposing
| team issue, but even left-leaning folks did have a blip.
| Maybe it's just a survey issue with the first datapoint? (I
| can't seem to link to the political view tab directly)
|
| The good news is that even the most staunchly anti-climate-
| change group, conservative republicans, are nearly at 50/50
| when it comes to whether it's happening at all.
| [deleted]
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