[HN Gopher] Show HN: Helping laid-off people find their next job
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       Show HN: Helping laid-off people find their next job
        
       Author : tracyhenry
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2022-11-08 17:12 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.layoff-sucks.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.layoff-sucks.com)
        
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       | philip1209 wrote:
       | I like it! I wish there were some "resources for job seekers" -
       | maybe people could add services or products that are free for job
       | seekers
        
       | ferdowsi wrote:
       | > This list is an aggregation of public layoff lists where people
       | voluntarily signed up, plus people who sign up through us.
       | 
       | You should be actively getting the consent of these people on
       | these lists. They consented to have their info in lists created
       | and shared by colleagues, not as part of your service.
        
         | JacobThreeThree wrote:
         | Legally speaking I think the service is protected here, so long
         | as they have an opt-out mechanism, and the contact information
         | they provide has been previously published publicly. There are
         | large companies, like Meltwater for instance, whose business
         | models are like this.
        
       | shishy wrote:
       | Your linkedin page links aren't working -- they go to layoff-
       | sucks.com/<linked-in-url> instead of just the linkedin url
        
         | tracyhenry wrote:
         | It works on my end - can you try some more? What's your
         | browser?
        
           | patchorang wrote:
           | I'm getting the same thing, not on every one, but every 5 or
           | so rows the linkedin link doesn't work. Chrome.
        
       | tacostakohashi wrote:
       | Layoffs don't suck, layoffs are great.
       | 
       | It's a quick, guilt-free way to get out of a dead-end situation
       | without having to spend a multi-week notice period writing
       | documentation, handing over, and pretending you'll be lifelong
       | friends with a group of people you are sick of that don't have
       | your back.
        
         | winphone1974 wrote:
         | You appear to be contrasting layoffs to quitting, so wouldn't
         | you be the one who doesn't have your coworkers' backs?
        
         | kalupa wrote:
         | I'm sure glad I don't work with you ...
        
         | elcomet wrote:
         | That's only true if
         | 
         | - you have enough money to be out of work for a while
         | 
         | - you are not on a visa
         | 
         | which is definitely not the case for many people. And what if
         | you like your job ? Then layoff does suck, no ? You seem to
         | think the alternative option to layoff is quitting, but what
         | about staying at the company ?
        
         | whatever1 wrote:
         | Layoffs great when you are in your 20s-30s. Specially if you
         | are single with established immigration status.
         | 
         | Not so great when you are in your 50s with family, health
         | expenses & loans and nobody wants to hire you.
        
       | ill_pigeon wrote:
       | You are going to get completely fucked by GDPR if you're scraping
       | and rehosting people's personal data. This is not cool at all.
       | 
       | I recommend you shut this down immediately and email everyone on
       | the list to apologise.
        
         | lazyasciiart wrote:
         | I don't believe that's true. Specifically, they say they are
         | republishing public lists that people have signed up for, for
         | largely the same purpose ("letting people know that I've been
         | laid off"), which is in the interest of the subject. They
         | should be notifying the people on the list, but there's nothing
         | intrinsically wrong with what they're doing.
        
           | remram wrote:
           | Luckily the GDPR is a bit more specific than "it was public
           | somewhere in the first place".
        
         | Aaronstotle wrote:
         | GDPR has no bite
        
       | rookhack wrote:
       | This is great (I mean it sucks that there are so many layoffs,
       | but the tool is really useful). Where are you sourcing all the
       | data from?
        
       | andrew_ wrote:
       | Not trying to poop in the cereal, but take a beat before adding
       | your name to the site; I'd be wary that this will be used to
       | blacklist a whole lot of folks. There's a large segment of tech
       | that doesn't see a tenure at Twitter as a positive, for example.
       | Maybe consider hiding the company name.
        
         | culopatin wrote:
         | So if you worked at Twitter for 3 years what do you do? Have a
         | 3 year gap in your resume? If the company doesn't want Twitter
         | employees you were not going to get a job there anyway.
        
         | winphone1974 wrote:
         | This is ridiculous, and I imagine it's only true for one
         | Twitter employee who's only been there for a very short time.
         | If this was the case how would you expect these people to get a
         | job if they got further down the funnel? Do you think a big
         | unexplained gap in your timeline is better then having worked
         | at Twitter?
        
         | lispisok wrote:
         | _There 's a large segment of tech that doesn't see a tenure at
         | Twitter as a positive_
         | 
         | Why?
        
           | blindhippo wrote:
           | Based on what I've read (here, reddit, and sadly the cesspool
           | that is Blind) Twitter engineers are lazy and the epitome of
           | the "rest and vest" career path.
           | 
           | So, just software engineers being toxic gatekeepers based on
           | dubious opinions.
           | 
           | I've noticed trying to interview at smaller companies with a
           | big tech company on my resume, I get a lot of weird pushback
           | - like the interviewer is actively trying to discard me just
           | to say they did. (anecdotal - so for what it's worth)
        
       | jade_liu wrote:
        
       | jedberg wrote:
       | This is an awesome tool and a great service you are providing!
       | 
       | One note of feedback: When I first loaded the page, all I saw
       | were listings from Starry Internet, and when I reloaded it was
       | just Lyft. This makes it look like you only have people from one
       | company.
       | 
       | My suggestion would be to randomize the listing on each page load
       | (or even bias the list towards diversity of company and role).
       | Then people can see the depth of the people signed up and start
       | exploring filters.
        
         | xwowsersx wrote:
         | And just "groupon" for me
        
         | tracyhenry wrote:
         | Thx for the feedback! The list is already randomized on every
         | load (from a given starting point). We'll make it more
         | randomized. For now, you can filter the companies, and use the
         | pagination to see more companies.
        
       | datalopers wrote:
       | So recruiters can contact you? That's called having a LinkedIn or
       | an email address on github.
       | 
       | Recruiters are the ones being laid off the most aggressively
       | anyway.
        
         | umeshunni wrote:
         | It's meant to help recruiters find people who are actively
         | looking for a new role.
        
       | andirk wrote:
       | If I was running a successful tech company, these layoffs would
       | be a godsend. Plenty of amazing devs let go simply to lower
       | headcount costs. I'd be poaching this list ASAP!
        
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