[HN Gopher] Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbi...
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       Laika, the space dog, and her one-way trip into orbit (2018)
        
       Author : cinbun8
       Score  : 179 points
       Date   : 2022-11-11 13:28 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | Lapsa wrote:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vkj-t1ytzo
        
         | bjt2n3904 wrote:
         | Jonathan Coulton has a great take too.
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/zsV-qozMz9A
        
           | ubermonkey wrote:
           | I clicked through to this thread to ensure someone linked
           | that.
        
         | porkbrain wrote:
         | Sticky Fingers have a great take too.
         | 
         | https://youtube.com/watch?v=N3zMmc8UG2g
        
         | rags2riches wrote:
         | My life as a dog
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/xsIef9QqE30?t=2m00s
        
         | abnry wrote:
         | Cunk on Laika: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AScMTzoDCrk
        
         | marginalia_nu wrote:
         | Motorhomes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4vUQz-1i5o
        
       | pipeline_peak wrote:
       | Laila come home https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika_Come_Home
        
       | throwaway742 wrote:
       | RIP Comrade Laika.
        
       | belval wrote:
       | > Soviet physicians chose Laika to die, but they were not
       | entirely heartless.
       | 
       | This tone is really harsh, animals dying to push science forward
       | is still common today and acting like they were "heartless" for
       | it is disingenuous.
       | 
       | Laika got to be remembered, which his already much more than can
       | be said of most test subjects.
        
         | dontlaugh wrote:
         | More than that, there was a lot work put into keeping the dogs
         | alive and healthy. In fact, most did survive and lived on after
         | their flight.
         | 
         | After all, the goal was to have humans go into space and
         | survive the trip back.
        
         | Taylor_OD wrote:
         | Is it that harsh? The line ends with they were not entirely
         | heartless.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | psyfi wrote:
         | Exactly! I'm getting sick of seeing all that kind of double-
         | standards BS all around the internet. Things are OK until
         | someone we don't like does it
        
         | missedthecue wrote:
         | I've got to agree with you here. Every day, animals around the
         | world are given cancer, AIDs, heart attacks, and all manner of
         | diseases in the name of advancing science. As many as 12
         | million animals are dissected or vivisected in US schools alone
         | annually.
         | 
         | Laika was an important stepping stone towards humans in space.
         | It's sad a dog died, but some people are a bit melodramatic.
        
           | psyfi wrote:
           | > but some people are a bit melodramatic. :D many people are
           | absurdly melodramatic.*
        
           | pipeline_peak wrote:
           | Did the US sacrifice any animals before they sent a human to
           | space?
        
             | boulos wrote:
             | Yes, mostly mice and primates.
             | 
             | https://history.nasa.gov/animals.html is a quick summary.
        
               | euroderf wrote:
               | IIRC Ham was a returning hero.
        
               | Retric wrote:
               | NASA also used quite a bit of Airforce research that used
               | Bears: https://medium.com/@shermikeholmes88/why-the-u-s-
               | air-force-e...
        
           | kcartlidge wrote:
           | I gain all the advantages of modern medicine etcetera that
           | come from animal research. I'm not blind to that fact. I'm
           | also aware that my empathy levels vary according to the
           | animal in question, which is awful (but true for
           | many/most/all people).
           | 
           | And yet, given the power to make such a decision I'd ban all
           | animal experimentation without question (and I'd include
           | Laika's situation in that).
           | 
           |  _If it is so vital that an experiment be performed, then a
           | willing human volunteer should be found. If no human is
           | willing to undergo these tortures in the name of science and
           | for the sake of humanity, then the experiment in question is
           | apparently not that vital after all_.
           | 
           | In these situations, humans have the choice and humans have
           | the benefit. We should leave other species out of it.
        
           | HeyImAlex wrote:
           | And we kill 80 billion animals a year for food.
        
             | uwagar wrote:
             | this is what is called an elephant in the lift.
        
         | PhasmaFelis wrote:
         | > This tone is really harsh, animals dying to push science
         | forward is still common today
         | 
         | That doesn't really change anything.
         | 
         | > Laika got to be remembered, which his already much more than
         | can be said of most test subjects
         | 
         | I doubt that was much comfort to her.
        
           | psychphysic wrote:
           | She's a dog. She wasn't capable of being comforted (or
           | worried) by abstract concepts in the way humans can.
           | 
           | She wouldn't understand what it means to live or die for
           | something.
           | 
           | Still being the first mammal in Earth orbit is wild. Man's
           | best friend indeed!
        
             | PhasmaFelis wrote:
             | > She's a dog. She wasn't capable of being comforted (or
             | worried) by abstract concepts in the way humans can.
             | 
             | That was my point, yes.
        
       | iamapassenger wrote:
       | animal abuse
        
       | smm11 wrote:
       | Mousetraps, man.
        
       | lgessler wrote:
       | Zbigniew Herbert wrote an excellent poem commemorating Laika and
       | her grim treatment: https://www.best-poems.net/poem/first-the-
       | dog-by-zbigniew-he...
        
       | uwagar wrote:
       | this story is ridiculous when so many monkeys are / have been
       | killed right here on earth victim of various drugs, vaccines and
       | cosmetic tests.
       | 
       | they'd squeeze anything to make russia/ussr look bad, however
       | little.
        
         | bobthepanda wrote:
         | It is possible for multiple things to be sad.
        
         | wiseowise wrote:
         | > they'd squeeze anything to make russia/ussr look bad, however
         | little.
         | 
         | You don't need to squeeze anything to make Russia/USSR look
         | bad.
        
           | my_city wrote:
           | You do. How would you otherwise demonize a Country that
           | reached peak industrialization in a couple decades starting
           | from a rural, semi-feudal society?
           | 
           | - That established the 8 hour work day in 1917,
           | 
           | - legalized abortion in 1920,
           | 
           | - erradicated illiteracy and achieved a literacy rate of 75%
           | starting from 25%,
           | 
           | - Was the first country to build satellites and men to space?
           | 
           | - Provided a decent standard of living to all their citizens
           | while also suffering inmense pression from the First World?
           | 
           | You really have to grasp straws to criticize a country that
           | made such enormous progress in such short time and that
           | improved the lives of millions while also being attacked from
           | left and right.
        
             | muaytimbo wrote:
             | Things you forgot:
             | 
             | - the murder of millions of innocent people
             | 
             | - the worst nuclear accident on the planet
             | 
             | Russia was bad then and continues today. Nothing needed
             | other than history to make that case.
        
               | my_city wrote:
               | The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah,
               | totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians
               | that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as
               | "murder". You can say what you want about the Soviet
               | Union, but thinking that they ORDERED the killing of
               | millions is complete derangement.
               | 
               | Were there economic problems and famines? Yes, of course,
               | all countries with a rural economy are exposed to
               | famines. Let me introduce you to the Irish famine, that
               | killed millions in a capitalist country, such as Ireland.
               | 
               | Can we count the millions dying of hunger is capitalist
               | countries as victims of capitalism?
               | 
               | "O'Leary pointed out that the decision-making by the
               | government of the day was based on capitalist principles
               | rather than ethnicity; its aim was to reduce the tax
               | burden on the middle-class (who were of both main
               | ethnicities) by clearing the 'unproductive' landless poor
               | from Ireland."
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)
               | 
               | - the worst nuclear accident on the planet
               | 
               | Thats a funny way of calling the bombing of Iroshima and
               | Nagasaki. Iroshima and Nagasaki were not accidents, they
               | were the purposefully killing of millions by an atomic
               | bomb. They were not accidents, THOSE were murders.
        
               | rurp wrote:
               | There is a guy named Stalin you might want to look up. I
               | think it would change your mind on a few things.
        
               | wiseowise wrote:
               | > The mythical "they murdered A GAZILLION PEOPLE". Yeah,
               | totally made up numbers made by anti-soviet historians
               | that inflated numbers and considered natural causes as
               | "murder".
               | 
               | Tankie with his "made up numbers" again. What next are
               | you going to say? Holocaust is made up to mud the name of
               | the glorious Reich that lifted Germany out of poverty?
        
               | lostlogin wrote:
               | Bringing up the atrocities committed by others as a
               | defence of Russia is an interesting angle. You know that
               | more than one country can do bad?
               | 
               | The killing of millions is hard to dispute. Take just one
               | incident, the Holomodor. That engineered catastrophe
               | killed millions and Russia now appears to be trying to
               | wipe out Ukraine again.
               | 
               | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
        
               | stonogo wrote:
               | Fewer than a quarter of a million people died in both
               | atomic attacks combined, including post-war illnesses.
               | Why is your desire to defend the Soviet Union more
               | important to you than accurate information?
        
               | guntars wrote:
               | Fucking USSR apologist. The regime was threatened by
               | poets! Like how could you possibly argue that sending
               | poets to a labor camp to die was for the betterment of
               | the people?
               | 
               | Edit: For anyone wondering what this poster is about,
               | take a look at their brief comment history and all will
               | be cleared up.
        
               | muaytimbo wrote:
               | Are we really to the place where people are openly
               | denying Stalin and the Bolshevik revolution each killed
               | millions? You should go to 4chan with the other Qs and
               | revel in your conspiracy theories.
        
             | shagmin wrote:
             | Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but to me and I
             | think a lot of people that are likely to be on this site
             | the Soviet Union just doesn't conjure up many rosy images
             | or anything - no squeeze is needed.
             | 
             | Having a list of accomplishments doesn't negate criticism.
             | I'd actually argue going from a semi-feudal rural society
             | to a hyper military-industrial one in such a short timespan
             | and in a forced top-down approach actually made things
             | worse in the long run. I'm biased though, since the only
             | people I know from the Soviet Union were the ones who
             | escaped.
        
             | wiseowise wrote:
             | Millions starved to death in collectivization, even more
             | millions displaced from their homes and sent to gulags.
             | Intelligentsia eradicated as a class. The biggest and
             | potentially richest country in the world collapsed due to
             | planned economy. And that's just my layman knowledge typing
             | on a phone, I'm sure many historians can decimate your
             | comment even harder.
        
               | ozzythecat wrote:
               | > Millions starved to death in collectivization, even
               | more millions displaced from their homes and sent to
               | gulags. Intelligentsia eradicated as a class. The biggest
               | and potentially richest country in the world collapsed
               | due to planned economy.
               | 
               | Communism didn't work, for sure, but I'm not sure how
               | this takes away from the things that the Soviets _did_
               | accomplish, which op listed above.
               | 
               | I also find it interesting the standard we judge the
               | Soviets by. Millions have starved under capitalism, but
               | in comparison to what? the Western world where we've been
               | constantly at war with some country in the world,
               | treating brown people as less than humans, causing
               | refugee crises in the millions and civil wars?
               | 
               | I know the typical response to this comment is something
               | like, "Oh but that's whataboutism". Well the reality is
               | that as an American, I we should have the self awareness
               | to recognize that we're like a skunk complaining about
               | the stench from another skunk.
               | 
               | Back to the original topic - the anti Russia frenzy is in
               | full swing. This much should be clear to anyone, based on
               | the tone of this article.
        
               | asdff wrote:
               | The economy arguments always annoyed me about communism.
               | No country would have an easy time avoiding economic
               | collapse with a US and all her allies global embargo
               | going on for decades. Plus we probably would not have won
               | WWII so quickly if we had not resorted to using a planned
               | economy to turn the nation from an economically depressed
               | state still in the great depression into a global
               | superpower.
        
               | rurp wrote:
               | The embargos weren't out of spite; the Soviet Union was
               | an aggressive bad actor in a myriad of ways.
               | 
               | I'm not sure why implementing a wartime economic measures
               | is supposed to be a knock. The US economy is _far_ from a
               | textbook definition of capitalism, just like Communist
               | China is nothing like the dictionary definition of
               | Communism. All economic systems are hodgepodge of
               | economic systems, full of good and bad ideas, some with
               | more good than others.
        
       | m000 wrote:
       | If you like happy endings, also check Belka and Strelka [1]. Not
       | only did they safely travel to space and back, Strelka later gave
       | birth to 6 pups, and one of them went on to live in the JFK White
       | House.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.amusingplanet.com/2021/12/belka-and-strelka-
       | sovi...
        
         | feintruled wrote:
         | Oh my goodness I knew all about Laika of course but I had never
         | heard of this! And they gave JFK one of their pups! What a
         | wonderful story.
         | 
         | EDIT: Nice YT vid with footage.
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCBWIi2vQ4k Looks like they
         | took it in their stride!
        
         | kazinator wrote:
        
           | saalweachter wrote:
           | Technically, any present given "to" a US president is White
           | House property; presumably, it became Johnson's dog after
           | Kennedy's assassination, and, assuming the dog was still
           | alive, later Nixon's.
        
           | jrockway wrote:
           | I'm honestly taken aback at the poor taste of this comment.
           | The dude adopted a cute puppy and cared for it. That's not a
           | good reason to be murdered.
           | 
           | I don't know exactly when this happened, but tensions were
           | high after the Cuban missile crisis, and a peace offering in
           | the form of a cuddly creature to love doesn't really seem
           | terrible to me.
        
             | kazinator wrote:
             | > _not a good reason to be murdered_
             | 
             | Nobody said it was; and he wasn't murdered for any good
             | reason.
        
         | joshjdr wrote:
         | [1] the article
        
         | incanus77 wrote:
         | I have seen Belka and Strelka. They are stuffed and on display
         | in the Cosmonautics museum in Moscow.
         | 
         | https://flickr.com/photos/incanus/10332309885/in/album-72157...
        
       | Jun8 wrote:
       | This is appalling but at least, as others commented, Laika got to
       | be celebrated. For an example of _real_ heartless exploitation of
       | animals, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_of_despair. This
       | psycho is still held in high esteem. Not only that, many such
       | experiments continue to be made for research.
        
         | doorman2 wrote:
         | What was it about the 20th century that produced such heartless
         | people? Lead exposure? I understand that the 20th century is
         | far from an aberration in terms of human cruelty, but there is
         | an element of sadism that feels different than other centuries.
         | 
         | For instance, read the first sentence from Harlow's Wikipedia
         | page:
         | 
         | > Harry Frederick Harlow (October 31, 1905 - December 6, 1981)
         | was an American psychologist best known for his maternal-
         | separation, dependency needs, and social isolation experiments
         | on rhesus monkeys, which manifested the importance of
         | caregiving and companionship to social and cognitive
         | development.
         | 
         | Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades to
         | understand the importance of care giving? The experiments seem
         | like a flimsy pretext for torture.
        
           | philwelch wrote:
           | I don't know about you, but when I think about the cruelty
           | and sadism of the 20th century, I think about all of the wars
           | and mass murders. Animal cruelty sort of pales in comparison
           | to all of that. I'm not saying this to _deflect_ from your
           | question; I literally think this is part of the explanation.
           | 
           | Going back to poor Laika for a moment, you could adapt an
           | old, morbid joke: "we're going to murder all the kulaks and
           | one dog." "Why the dog?" "Why the kulaks?"
        
           | psyfi wrote:
           | 2022 and some people are still being tortured for more than
           | 20 years in Guantanamo bay without charge or a proof of
           | committing a crime, we can just blame lead exposure of
           | course.
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | whatshisface wrote:
           | You can't really explain these things, but you might be able
           | to explain this guy.
           | 
           | > _In 1971, Harlow 's wife died of cancer and he began to
           | suffer from depression. He was treated and returned to work
           | but, as Lauren Slater writes, his colleagues noticed a
           | difference in his demeanor.[6] He abandoned his research into
           | maternal attachment and developed an interest in isolation
           | and depression. _
           | 
           | From the wikipedia page.
        
           | ars wrote:
           | > Did we really need to torture these creatures for decades
           | to understand the importance of care giving?
           | 
           | Yes, we did. Look at:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitalism people didn't even
           | understand how much humans need care, never mind animals. The
           | people placing these babies into care did so with the best
           | intentions, but insufficient knowledge.
           | 
           | Your knowledge _comes_ from these experiments.
        
             | [deleted]
        
             | doorman2 wrote:
             | > In 1945, the psychoanalyst Rene Spitz published an
             | article in which he explained how deprivation of social
             | interactions can lead to a condition named "hospitalism" in
             | infants. According to Spitz, young children who are cared
             | for in institutions can suffer from severe impairment in
             | their development because they are not provided with
             | sufficient maternal care.
             | 
             | We figured this out without needing to torture monkeys.
             | Apparently, though, this was not sufficient for Harlow, as
             | he created his pit of despair almost 30 years later.
        
             | asadotzler wrote:
             | We could have done most animal experiments on humans
             | instead but our species has long set up rules that favor
             | the exploitation of "other" over ourselves.
        
           | shagmin wrote:
           | Just anecdotal, but some older people I've known who grew up
           | on farms are probably the most indifferent to animal
           | suffering, as long as the animal provides meat or whatever
           | their utility is. Animal welfare is only a thing kids are
           | concerned about that they need to grow out of. Combine that
           | attitude with the growing scientific revolution and desire to
           | partake in scientific experiments and such, and I could see
           | how this emerges.
        
             | 5e92cb50239222b wrote:
             | I don't know about the US, but in my neck of the woods
             | that's still the case. Rural folk don't care about animal
             | welfare at all -- you'd be laughed out of the room for
             | trying to discuss something like that. Feeding chickens and
             | pigs for meat and then slaughtering them is just something
             | you normally do.
             | 
             | Having spent a decent chunk of my childhood in a rural area
             | (and seen many pigs being killed by various methods, none
             | of them very humane), I also don't care about this stuff
             | too much tbh.
        
             | GoodbyeMrChips wrote:
        
             | ars wrote:
             | To them animals are tools, not feeling creatures. And in
             | their defense for virtually all of human history, except
             | for recently animals were _always_ tools.
             | 
             | Judaism actually has a law called "Tza'ar ba'alei chayim"
             | which prohibits unnecessary suffering to animals, and
             | mandates a procedure for painless slaughter. This was
             | unprecedented for its time - back then no one cared at all.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | cenal wrote:
         | I always hate to say we need regulation around something but
         | then someone evil does something evil and the need for
         | regulation emerges again...
        
           | kibwen wrote:
           | Ethics review boards these days understand that potential
           | outcry is proportional to the amount of empathy the public
           | has for a specific type of animal. Even beyond the "potential
           | outcry" angle, universities understand that such experiments
           | threaten to reduce the public's ability to trust in the
           | scientific process itself, which they rightfully recognize as
           | an existential threat. I've taken the mandatory animal ethics
           | course as a result of doing consulting work at a large
           | research university, and it's clear that getting approval for
           | an experiment involving any kind of primate is essentially
           | impossible. Dogs and cats would be extremely difficult,
           | random mammals like pigs and rabbits would be quite
           | difficult, even arbitrary rodents would be non-trivial. As a
           | result of seeking the path of least resistance, most
           | experiments took place on flies, bees, worms, spiders, fish,
           | mice, and the one specific breed of rat that is more-or-less
           | automatically approved for all experiments
           | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory_rat).
        
       | narahs wrote:
       | She has thousands of dogs named in her honor now - that makes me
       | smile.
        
         | jmkb wrote:
         | And an excellent Finnish surf band:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika_%26_the_Cosmonauts
        
           | bitwize wrote:
           | And an animation studio:
           | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika_(company)
        
           | shautvast wrote:
           | the other band called Laika is one of my favourites https://w
           | ww.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHKP2lw7vk&list=OLAK5uy_meM...
        
       | fnfontana wrote:
       | At least Laika server for a noble cause. What I think is terrible
       | is the fact that Soviet Army tied up bombs on dogs and let the
       | run after enemy tanks on the WWII. Humans sometimes acts
       | disgustingly.
        
         | npteljes wrote:
         | I don't think we even need to go as far as the second World
         | War. Animals get shit treatment all day, every day, everywhere.
         | Even if you look at pets, which are supposed to get the best
         | treatment of them all, even they are often mistreated or
         | outright abused. And then we can into other territories like
         | service animals, meat and fur, and lab animals. There's so much
         | horror going on at any moment that I think if we treat one
         | right, that's the exception, not the other way around.
        
         | psyfi wrote:
         | Horses and camels were being used for wars for centuries and
         | they were occasionally killed in action, it is not disgusting
         | at all if you think of it objectively
        
         | lordgroff wrote:
         | The German death machine grinds down circa 30 million Soviet
         | people, majority of them civilians, the hot take is being mad
         | the red army for tank dogs. Sometimes the comments here are
         | really special in their lack of context.
        
           | vogt wrote:
           | Or maybe both of those things are shitty and it isn't
           | mutually exclusive. Sometimes the binary thinking here is
           | really special.
        
             | lordgroff wrote:
             | I'll take the 30 million dead over a relatively small
             | number of dogs killed as the greater evil thanks.
        
               | guntars wrote:
               | It wasn't one or the other, it was both 30 million dead
               | AND some unknown number of dogs killed that very likely
               | didn't make a meaningful difference in the Soviet war
               | effort. Congrats on getting down to the level of your
               | enemy, I guess.
        
             | BurningFrog wrote:
             | Sometimes you're faced with a binary reality, and have to
             | decide between several shitty things.
        
               | asdff wrote:
               | Like strapping a bomb to a dog that might very well just
               | run off into the woods or throwing it with your arm like
               | everyone else, right? Somehow I feel like the tank dog
               | idea didn't come up from cutting edge military science
               | but rather some drunken soldiers with a bomb and a stay
               | dog and a fucked up sense of humor.
        
               | BurningFrog wrote:
               | It was a serious Soviet military program. The dogs were
               | trained to run under tanks.
               | 
               | A dog can run much further than a soldier can throw,
               | which was pretty much the point. If you're close enough
               | to throw something at an enemy tank, you are typically
               | dead.
               | 
               | That said, this had limited success at best:
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
        
           | themitigating wrote:
           | Soldiers and civilians are aware of risks and have the chance
           | to mitigate them. Animals aren't aware and can't do anything.
        
           | commandlinefan wrote:
           | Yeah, pretty sure both sides did those things to people,
           | too...
        
         | BurningFrog wrote:
         | Most of us consider defeating Hitler's genocidal Nazi regime a
         | noble cause.
        
           | themitigating wrote:
           | Did the dogs think that?
        
             | npteljes wrote:
             | I don't think dogs think.
        
               | agentwiggles wrote:
               | You must not have a dog
        
           | asdff wrote:
           | I forgot Stalin was such a nice guy too
        
             | orthecreedence wrote:
             | He did hold the door open for women.
        
             | psyfi wrote:
             | It is ok to use kamikaze dogs in war only if your leader is
             | a nice guy
        
       | gadders wrote:
       | I saw the picture at the top of this article on facebook a few
       | weeks back and for some reason it really affected me:
       | 
       | https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/remember...
       | 
       | Look at that good girl :-( We really don't deserve dogs.
        
         | arjvik wrote:
         | We genuinely don't. I treasure every minute with my dog.
        
       | mahoro wrote:
       | Not completely related, but here a mockumentary movie about
       | Russians visiting Moon in ~1910-1920s (I guess)
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKPnQNp_kA
       | 
       | It is beautiful even if you choose any random moment in the
       | middle.
        
         | lgats wrote:
         | Further topic tangent, if you're into Sci-Fi shorts,
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ePy1a4Uxo
        
       | nimbius wrote:
       | Laika is memorialized in the form of a statue and plaque at Star
       | City, the Russian Cosmonaut training facility.
       | 
       | https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/b...
       | 
       | The Monument to the Conquerors of Space in Moscow, constructed in
       | 1964, also includes Laika!
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_Conquerors_of_...
        
         | Rebelgecko wrote:
         | Another great place to visit honoring her is the Soviet space
         | dog portrait gallery in the Museum of Jurassic Technology near
         | Los Angeles
        
           | coolspot wrote:
           | Very unusual museum, highly recommend to visit. They even
           | serve tea from Samovar on the top floor.
        
         | erwincoumans wrote:
         | Laikago, the quadruped robot from Unitree is also a homage to
         | Laika:
         | http://www.unitree.cc/e/action/ShowInfo.php?classid=6&id=1
        
         | paganel wrote:
         | There were quite a few postal stamps featuring Laika. I had
         | these two in my stamps collection when I was a kid: [1], from
         | Mongolia, and [2], from Romania.
         | 
         | [1] https://c7.alamy.com/comp/D0GC31/postage-stamp-from-
         | mongolia...
         | 
         | [2] https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~KgAAOSwySVaHdDz/s-l1600.jpg
        
       | markoman wrote:
       | Let's not forget Sharon Van Etten's tribute song to Laika,
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZixNE7NEJ4
        
         | yunwal wrote:
         | Arcade fire too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8AArhhjo44
        
       | BlueBall wrote:
       | There's a song from Mecano. Two lines always hit me. I will try
       | to translate it.                 And while Earth was trowing a
       | giant party            where happiness mixes tears in the
       | champagne            Laika just was looking out the window
       | What could be that giant colored ball?            And why do I
       | keep spinning it around?
        
         | Symmetry wrote:
         | Akino Arai also had a haunting song about the Sputnik 2 mission
         | as a metaphor for a breakup.
         | 
         | Translation:                 With enough air and water for
         | seven days       And someone's uncompromising wishes       The
         | laika dog on Sputnik       Doors which will never again open
         | now close       To think that I must go on living       In some
         | distant place unfamiliar to you       That we can never feel
         | the same things
        
           | kazinator wrote:
           | In the Czech Republic, they have an oldie 50s style rock tune
           | based on "Rock Around the Clock", with lyrics mentioning the
           | Laika.                 Sovetsti muzici               Those
           | Soviet chaps       vypustili druzici             Let out a
           | satellite       Lajku do ni nacpali           They stuffed
           | Laika into it       a nazrat ji nedali.           Not giving
           | her anything to eat       Na kytaru trsaj rock'n'roll.  Strum
           | rock'n'roll on your guitar            Lajka leti k Mesici
           | Lajka's flying to the Moon       hlady zere druzici
           | Eating the satellite out of hunger       Lajka vola SOS
           | Lajka's calling "SOS"       at tu chcipne jinej pes!
           | "Let another dog croak here!"       Na kytaru trsaj
           | rock'n'roll.  Strum ...
           | 
           | The Prague Spring events put a damper on this kind of thing.
        
             | sampo wrote:
             | Here is "Laika Laika" (1985) from Finnish rock musician
             | Jussi Hakulinen.
             | 
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwfDTPX2Ek
        
         | mvaliente2001 wrote:
         | The best part is the last lines:
         | 
         | If we pay attention to the legend then we'll have to accept
         | that in Earth is one less dog and in heavens one more star
        
       | Victerius wrote:
       | Don't forget Felicette, the first, and so far the ONLY, cat
       | launched into space:
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9licette
       | 
       | She also survived.
        
         | smoothgrammer wrote:
         | Killed 2 months later to examine the brain.
        
         | throwaway0x7E6 wrote:
         | >Felicette was killed two months after the launch so that
         | scientists could perform a necropsy to examine her brain.[29]
         | 
         | it was so wholesome up until that point
        
           | bombcar wrote:
           | It's interesting the changes in tone in that article.
           | Felicette was killed, but the other 11 cats were
           | "euthanized".
        
       | tim333 wrote:
       | >one meal and only a seven-day oxygen supply
       | 
       | It sounds rather similar to how the Russians treat their
       | mobilised soldiers to this day.
        
         | psyfi wrote:
         | They can breath as much as they want to
        
       | JoeDaDude wrote:
       | Author Nick Abadzis created a graphic novel of the story of Laika
       | [1]. While I expect it includes some fictional elements, a lot of
       | the story in the graphic novel was true, including Laika's
       | unfortunate demise. He got so many comments about the sad ending
       | that he wrote several alternate endings to placate his readers.
       | You can se them in reference [2].
       | 
       | [1]. https://www.nickabadzis.com/laika-graphic-novel
       | 
       | [2]. https://www.bigplanetcomics.com/category/comics/the-
       | alternat...
        
       | mikeInAlaska wrote:
       | > They expected Laika to die from oxygen deprivation--a painless
       | death > within 15 seconds--after seven days in space.
       | 
       | So after seven days, the oxygen level would instantly drop to
       | zero? I would think the Oxygen supply would run out, leaving the
       | dog to slowly suffocate as the O2 supply of the capsule space was
       | consumed.
        
         | Pigalowda wrote:
         | I would think the CO2 gets too high before oxygen runs out too,
         | but maybe they had CO2 scrubbers? If not, I think the pCO2
         | would go beyond 40 mmHg and the dog would die of metabolic
         | acidosis instead of hypoxia/anoxia.
        
       | Kaibeezy wrote:
       | 2007 graphic novel. Lots of awards.
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika_(comics)
        
         | JoeDaDude wrote:
         | Author Nick Abadzis got a lot of responses about the factual,
         | sad fate of Laika in his graphic novel. So much that he wrote
         | several alternate (entirely fictional) endings to the story to
         | make readers feel better.
         | 
         | https://www.bigplanetcomics.com/category/comics/the-alternat...
        
         | dclowd9901 wrote:
         | Also in the category of fictional references to Laika, a
         | wonderful episode of Space Dandy ("The Lonely Pooch Planet,
         | Baby")
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | I was hoping someone would mention. Here is another link:
         | https://www.nickabadzis.com/laika-graphic-novel
        
           | mikehodgson wrote:
           | There is also this one written by Jeff Lemire, though it is
           | obviously a work of fiction. It also features the American
           | monkeys Able and Baker:
           | https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/primordial
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | Able and Baker newsreel: https://ia902803.us.archive.org/28
             | /items/Jeff_Quitney_me/201...
        
       | boulos wrote:
       | This got asked deep in a comment, but NASA also used animals in
       | space tests as briefly mentioned in the article.
       | 
       | https://history.nasa.gov/animals.html is a more straightforward
       | recounting of the various tests and animals involved, including
       | the V-2 tests.
        
         | misiti3780 wrote:
         | so messed up.
        
           | standardUser wrote:
           | Seems more humane than factory farming (shruggy emoji).
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Remembering Laika, Space Dog and Soviet Hero_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15620340 - Nov 2017 (51
       | comments)
        
       | my_city wrote:
       | Anti-Soviet propaganda is reaching levels that I thought were not
       | possible.
        
         | fnordpiglet wrote:
         | Really? You must not have been alive during the Cold War 1
         | 
         | Edit: watch Red Dawn, read the article, and comment back with
         | your comparison of treatment of Soviet Russia.
         | 
         | In my reading of the article the only negative statement about
         | the Soviet society was the statement that they lied about the
         | time of death and fictionalized the science for propaganda. The
         | rest of it reads as a humanizing story of the dog and it's
         | experience without a specific political agenda. I could very
         | well have imagined any other society as the context. I feel you
         | must be overly sensitized to have read this as anti Soviet.
        
         | azubinski wrote:
         | The best anti-Soviet propaganda so far is the experience of
         | life under Soviet rule. Try to avoid this as much as possible.
        
         | squarefoot wrote:
         | I also found the timing of the post a bit odd. Given the recent
         | events I would think twice before publishing or linking to
         | anything that could be interpreted as propaganda in either
         | direction. I am writing this as a 100% pro-Ukraine guy.
        
           | philwelch wrote:
           | Ukraine was also part of the Soviet Union, so it doesn't
           | really make sense to try and equivocate between the USSR and
           | modern Russia.
        
           | JKCalhoun wrote:
           | I definitely see your point, but hate self-censorship for
           | "perceived reception".
        
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       | psychphysic wrote:
       | I'm sure this is controversial but she did so much for dogkind.
        
       | FollowingTheDao wrote:
       | Scientists are some of the most sadistic people.
        
       | tibbon wrote:
       | A character you meet early in the game Pathologic 2 is named Lika
       | (Liza), and wears a dog head. I thought it was just a neat name
       | until my friend who is Russian pointed out the background and
       | reference to Laika.
       | 
       | https://pathologic.fandom.com/wiki/Lika
        
         | shakow wrote:
         | That looks like a mistranslation, Liza translates into Lisa.
        
           | unnouinceput wrote:
           | *Liza
           | 
           | "3" like letter in Cyrillic alphabet is "z" in Latin. You can
           | hear it when pressing the sound button in here:
           | 
           | https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%9B%D0%B.
           | ..
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ze_(Cyrillic)
        
             | shakow wrote:
             | I know, I speak Russian. That's why I wrote ``translate''
             | and used the most common writing of the name in English,
             | rather than ``transliterate''.
        
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