[HN Gopher] Starfish and Coffee
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Starfish and Coffee
Author : Tomte
Score : 48 points
Date : 2022-11-12 19:49 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.starfishandcoffeeofficial.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.starfishandcoffeeofficial.com)
| avg_dev wrote:
| thanks, i needed this today. also enjoyed the muppets link,
| thanks dsr_.
|
| the world needs more people like prince, cynthia rose, and
| susannah melvoin. it would make life richer
| tbalsam wrote:
| This is a really, really, really beautiful story, thanks for
| sharing this.
|
| I don't know exactly where Cynthia was at on which spectrums, but
| this reminds me a lot of the female-phenotype of autism
| (surprisingly different from male autism, one reason why it's
| under diagnosed). I say this as an autistic person with a
| combined type having some generally male exclusive and some
| female exclusive traits. I developed as nonbinary so it took me a
| while to realize I was autistic, even after learning I was
| nonbinary.
|
| Before I knew I was nonbinary, I thought I was NT. Because
| "that's not autism'!
|
| Anywho, interesting stuff. I've found the book "Women and Girls
| with Autism Spectrum Disorder" to shed a really helpful light on
| the subject, and would definitely recommend it if you have
| autistic female family members, are questioning but don't think
| it's right because "it doesn't fit me", or may be a combined type
| (oftentimes spectrum people don't develop according to standard
| gender binaries, ya see.)
|
| Happy for any questions, this story was heartwarming and I didn't
| bob in the toilet but Ive had my oddities growing up! ;D
|
| P.S.: I use "Pee Pee" all the time, and it made me so happy to
| see 'Starfish and Pee Pee' when I was skimming the article before
| figuring out the topic. I'm still giggling 30 minutes later. :)
| XD
| jjtheblunt wrote:
| What's NT?
| jimmaswell wrote:
| neurotypical
| Crontab wrote:
| One of my favorite Prince songs.
| dybber wrote:
| I can recommend the official Prince podcast where this story is
| also covered.
| dsr_ wrote:
| Here's the Muppets doing the song with Prince:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4PqmShvHI
| dtgriscom wrote:
| Holy cannoli. Never saw that: thanks.
|
| Grooving on Prince as a muppet.
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| sgt101 wrote:
| My fave prince track by a mile - thank you for the link and the
| story.
| codeulike wrote:
| I knew this song well when I was a teenager and I always imagined
| it was a story from Prince's own childhood and because I dont
| totally trust him as a narrator I always thought he had
| embellished it in some way. It seemed to have too much whimsy in
| it. e.g. maybe there was a quirky girl in his school but 'Cynthia
| Rose' was probably a made up name to rhyme with something. So its
| really quite startling to hear it was someone elses story and a
| real name.
|
| I never really could make sense of this verse?
|
| _Cynthia wore the prettiest dress
|
| With different color socks
|
| Sometimes, I wondered
|
| If the mates were in her lunch box
|
| Me and Lucy opened it
|
| When Cynthia wasn't around
|
| Lucy cried, I almost died
|
| You know what we found?_
|
| 'mates' in her lunch box? What does that even mean?
|
| I used to assume that the suprise in the lunch box was that it
| was empty. And the song was about a whimsical girl in difficult
| circumstances using her imagination to get around a shitty home
| life and not enough food.
|
| But now I know its about a neurodivergent child. But in that
| case, what was in the lunch box?
| acheron wrote:
| "Mates" as in the other socks. Cynthia presumably has a pair of
| red socks and a pair of yellow socks or something, but instead
| of wearing two reds or two yellows, she is wearing one red and
| one yellow. Lucy and the narrator wonder if the other red
| and/or the other yellow are in the lunch box.
| csours wrote:
| Part of growing up in most modern North American and European
| cultures is learning to suppress 'childish' tendencies. Stop
| making noise, stop doing distracting things, stop saying silly
| things. Stop enjoying inappropriate things.
|
| I'm not advocating for more childishness in public - it is
| genuinely distracting - or for more childishness in serious
| situations - or for being inappropriate in mean ways - but maybe
| it's OK to just have fun. Make a fart noise every once in a
| while. Sing in the shower, or while you vacuum, or whatever. Make
| motorcycle noises while you're riding your bike. Flap your arms
| when you run.
| recuter wrote:
| > Part of growing up in most modern North American and European
| cultures is learning to suppress 'childish' tendencies.
|
| You ever been to Asia?
| csours wrote:
| I have not, and that's why I didn't say anything about it.
| hnlmorg wrote:
| I do all of that and more. My kids think I'm hysterical
| (they're still young) and I intend to keep it up until they're
| embarrassed to be around me.
|
| Life's too short to take yourself seriously. Sometimes it's the
| little things that makes life enjoyable.
| happyopossum wrote:
| > Part of growing up in most modern North American and European
| cultures
|
| Not really sure which cultures you're assuming aren't that way
| - Asian and African culture don't tend to have a lot of
| childishness either..
| csours wrote:
| There are cultural differences - the congregation in many
| black churches vocalizes during the sermon. I think it's a
| universal tendency with cultural expression.
| pvg wrote:
| American black churches are part of American culture and
| there's plenty of non-black churches where the laity
| vocalizes. People even speak in made up languages. Plus,
| google up Shakers, Quakers or one of these:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Awakening
| csours wrote:
| Sure, and that's why I said:
|
| > universal tendency with cultural expression.
|
| There is no single "culture of America"
| SeanAnderson wrote:
| Reminds me of a bit from an article I enjoy.
|
| https://www.villagevoice.com/2014/08/13/ask-andrew-w-k-whats...
|
| It seems to me that people often equate intelligence with
| seriousness, and stupidity with playfulness. These people also
| tend to overvalue a sort of stoic distance and lack of
| excitement and enthusiasm as somehow being a sign of wisdom and
| advanced thinking. An austere and somber attitude doesn't make
| someone smarter or more intellectual. Sometimes people are
| overly serious because they're afraid of looking unkempt,
| unimportant, uneducated -- they fear they'll "make a fool out
| of themselves" if they don't remain dour and stiff. In my
| opinion, if more people aspired to the level of life-mastery
| and self-actualization that a true fool has attained, there'd
| be much less conflict in the world.
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| Swizec wrote:
| Doing childish things because I want to is one if the best
| parts of living in the big city. Nobody knows me, nobody cares.
| If someone's annoyed, not like I'll ever see them again.
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