[HN Gopher] The Match Girls ___________________________________________________________________ The Match Girls Author : c-linkage Score : 78 points Date : 2022-11-13 17:07 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.historic-uk.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.historic-uk.com) | ljf wrote: | Wow, phossy jaw sounds horrendous | https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2016/02/10/new-morbid-ter... | | (cancer caused by working with white phosphorus for the matches) | lob_it wrote: | It sounds similar to a ceramics art teacher getting silicosis | in Austrailia. | | https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-27/ceramics-teacher-sili... | | Technology natives do have to be concerned with carpal tunnel | syndrome as a workplace hazard or ergonomic deficiency as well. | croes wrote: | Or the radium girls | | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls | themitigating wrote: | "With the support triggering public debate, the management were | keen to play down the reports, claiming it was "twaddle" | propagated by socialists like Mrs Besant" | | I thought this was a new technique | basilgohar wrote: | The playbook of the powerful has almost always been the same | since the beginning. Divide and conquer, have the different | parties your want to control blame each other for the problems | that are ultimately your fault, make personal attacks against | your enemies according to the values of the people you oppress, | and ultimately, blame your opponents for the crimes you've | committed, to take attention away from your own atrocities. | | I think a good summary of a lot of this is "lie enough until | they believe you". | Thorentis wrote: | DC-3 wrote: | Go to the slums of Dhaka or Lagos today and report back how | many beautiful people you see. | thriftwy wrote: | Your life actually has huge influence on your face (which is a | "mirror of the soul"). They lived a miserable life and that's | what you happen to see here. | exolymph wrote: | Nutrition is a big factor. | aqme28 wrote: | You're comparing what exactly? The photos in the article with | the girls you see on Instagram? The photos in the article have | way too much contrast and everyone's expression seems a bit | surprised. | | I don't think enough generations have elapsed for any genetic | differences. If anything, diet and lifestyle, but I think most | likely it's fashion and makeup and comfort infront of a camera | and cultural understandings of beauty. | [deleted] | zeristor wrote: | Co-incidentally a local historical society had a talk about the | Match Girls: | | https://youtu.be/AnnnY7MnAK8 | | I remember my History teacher talking about the Match Girls were | on strike until they struck a deal; although that lame joke seems | out of place. | tobylane wrote: | The factory and strike recently gained a heritage blue plaque. | https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-match-girls-b... | tehchromic wrote: | Ugly business is industrialization. I suppose it's seems to be | the most noble application of technology to avoid the techno- | horrors of the past in the future. But there are always newer, | greater techno-horrors emergent. In fact, one might say that | techno-horror is a fundamental emergent property of the universe. | INTPenis wrote: | The only horror here is shit employers and bastard politicians | who don't care for worker's rights. | bus85 wrote: | It's time to join a union HN | zwkrt wrote: | Any technology (physical, social, philosophical) we create has | the ability to wreak havoc on equilibrium (natural, societal, | or otherwise). We are fundamentally unequipped to restore | equilibrium because that process takes the unwilling | participation of all agents. So I think all technologies have a | way of creating an existential threat, obviously some more than | others. | | My own internal sci-fi version of the future involves us | creating replicating but non-intelligent technology that | outlasts us. | | Another free sci-fi premise while I'm on a roll is | consciousness becoming such a good interpreter of reality (that | sees everything so clearly) such that it evaporates. The map | has become the territory. | | /confused rambling | notgoodrobot wrote: | Interesting ideas. Would you expand on your last point? We're | you meaning an artificial consciousness becomes so good at | interpreting the things around it that the consciousness | itself evaporates? | itsthecourier wrote: | You mean, because by observing everything we affect it? Like | Heisenberg's uncertainty | lob_it wrote: | Diversification is an interesting innovation in the 21st | century. | | Getting stuck as a head-in-a-fishbowl doesn't sound that | appealing :/ | simonbw wrote: | Somewhat related: my favorite Disney short is called The Little | Matchgirl. It's set to a Borodin string quartet, which I think is | an excellent choice. If you haven't seen it, I think it's worth 6 | minutes of your time. | | https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ybb3s | erk__ wrote: | The original fairy tale by Hans Christian Andersen is also | worth a read. In my opinion one of his best short stories. | | https://andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheLittleMatchGirl_e.... | tamaharbor wrote: | It always made me cry. | zokier wrote: | And few decades later across the pond: | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls | | The thing that is surprising to me is that people were so | desperate for these horrible factory jobs for so long. I think I | need to read up on history again to figure out what was going on | in the agriculture side that made people flood into cities, | making labor expendable for factories. | maxerickson wrote: | Mechanization. | Shacklz wrote: | > The thing that is surprising to me is that people were so | desperate for these horrible factory jobs for so long | | We folks on HN (well, anyone who's even remotely related to | tech) just tend to forget how good we have it. You might want | to look up working conditions in meat plants, healthcare, | warehouses, construction... in today's day and age. | | Sure, it's not as bad as painting with Radium (although, back | then they did not know how bad it is), the jobs might not be an | immediate health hazard, but there are still plenty of people | out there working under miserable conditions for terrible | wages. | robjwells wrote: | Louise Raw wrote a book about the Bryant and May matchwomen and | their 1888 strike, Striking a Light, which I recommend: | https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/striking-a-light-9781441114266... | welder wrote: | OP must have watched the Enola Holmes 2 movie on Netflix... the | case she solves is all about match girls. | | https://www.cbr.com/enola-holmes-2-sarah-chapman-true-story/ | Mikeb85 wrote: | Funny timing, literally watching it right now. | colechristensen wrote: | It just came out I think so not much of a coincidence :) | Josh5 wrote: | ...based on this true story. | [deleted] ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-11-13 23:00 UTC)