[HN Gopher] A 3D-printed ethernet RJ45 clip to secure/repair/fix...
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       A 3D-printed ethernet RJ45 clip to secure/repair/fix broken tab
        
       Author : mmastrac
       Score  : 394 points
       Date   : 2022-11-24 16:12 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | jccalhoun wrote:
       | If modern laptops even have ether net ports, they seem to the
       | kind with the little spring loaded flap because the laptop is too
       | thin for a normal ether net port. So I'm surprised they haven't
       | made a slim lightning connector type ether net port.
        
         | rnhmjoj wrote:
         | I had the same thought some time ago and went looking for
         | alternatives to the 5P5C connector. It turns out they exist and
         | are used in industrial applications, like the "ix Industrial"
         | [1], precisely because how fragile the standard connector is.
         | Unfortunately there's no standard and the designs are
         | proprietary.
         | 
         | [1]: https://softei.com/wp-
         | content/uploads/2020/03/Hirose_10-03-2...
        
       | MartijnBraam wrote:
       | Or... snip off the connector and crimp a new one on.
        
       | djfobbz wrote:
       | This is a very good design! Great job and thank you for sharing.
       | Happy thanksgiving everyone!
        
       | oso2k wrote:
       | This one is fine. But I had better luck on my booted CAT6A cables
       | with this other design. The longer one is what I used and even
       | then, I had to shave the nose a mm or two.
       | 
       | https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2009495
        
       | FounderBurr wrote:
       | Copying is not designing
        
       | jameshart wrote:
       | Looks like a poor match for FDM printing. There's no orientation
       | where the layers won't leave some part of this component very
       | weak. In any orientation, it requires support material; in the
       | suggested print orientation, it requires _internal_ support
       | material, which will leave rough surfaces on areas of the part
       | that have to interface and fit with the ethernet jack.
       | 
       | Essentially doesn't really look like a 3D-printing project so
       | much as an injection moulded part design.
        
         | travisporter wrote:
         | What about sla?
        
           | longtimelistnr wrote:
           | Sla should be fine. However I do believe this part can be
           | redesigned to become fdm friendly
        
             | stevenhuang wrote:
             | FDM prints are usually stronger than SLA prints.
             | 
             | Not sure why you think an FDM printer can't print this
             | component with sufficient strength, it'll be plenty strong
             | enough.
        
         | stevenhuang wrote:
         | > Printing the tab from the base to the tip in X-Y axis makes
         | it stronger and more flexible since its printed in one
         | continued string.
         | 
         | The component won't be undergoing any stress at all, and for a
         | continual print like above it will be plenty strong for the
         | application.
        
       | markandrewj wrote:
       | The best option is probably re-crimping the cable, but in a pinch
       | you can make an extra clip with spare zip ties also.
       | 
       | https://www.cabletiesplus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/0...
        
       | thesaintlives wrote:
       | Brilliant! I have a servo cable that needs this.
        
       | moffkalast wrote:
       | That's fantastic, just about every one of these cables I have
       | eventually ends up tabless. They're just built so flimsily that
       | breaking them is a complete inevitability if you need to plug
       | them in more than once, they're like a 5 time use cable.
       | 
       | Comparing it to other types of connectors, RJ45 is probably one
       | of the worst ones out there (at least VGA has screws that don't
       | break), but it's also as prevalent as USB-A so I wonder if
       | anything will ever replace it.
        
         | 3np wrote:
         | The worst in my book is micro-HDMI. So many broken connectors,
         | adapters, and cables...
         | 
         | Even before USB-C became an option, mini-HDMI is just a
         | different league of reliable without being that much bigger.
         | 
         | A broken RJ-45 is still usable and fixable. A broken micro-HDMI
         | makes you feel lucky it was the cable and not the device that
         | goes in the bin this time. But only after hours wasted on
         | fiddling with it because the closest shop carrying them
         | wouldn't arrive until after the weekend.
        
         | bbarnett wrote:
         | _They 're just built so flimsily that breaking them is a
         | complete inevitability if you need to plug them in more than
         | once, they're like a 5 time use cable._
         | 
         | Erm? You must be exaggerating a bit, I use cables/connectors
         | hundreds of times with zero isses.
         | 
         | Misuse / mistakes happen, yes. But?
        
           | moffkalast wrote:
           | Naturally it's an exaggeration, but it really depends on how
           | careful you are, quality of the cable, and quality of the
           | port. Laptops, especially, I've found absolutely eat the tabs
           | since you move them around and often have collapsible ports.
        
       | somat wrote:
       | So the 8 pin modular connector(rj-45) may not be the best
       | connector in the world(the 8088 sas connector is a serious
       | contender for that honor), but it does one thing better than any
       | most connectors, it is designed to be field terminated, and as
       | such is easy to fix. the crimping dies are ubiquitous, the
       | process is simple. because of this single fact, I think it is
       | better than just about any other connector in widespread use.
       | because you can fix the infernal thing.
       | 
       | As such the article left me a bit confused, why not just cut off
       | the end and putting a new plug on? with an 8 pin connector this
       | is very easy. But I am in the industry and tend to have a crimper
       | close to hand. perhaps some are not as fortunate.
        
         | Smoosh wrote:
         | > the best connector in the world(the 8088 sas connector is a
         | serious contender for that honor)
         | 
         | Overly complex. BNC bayonet FTW! It's main fault is the lack of
         | good strain relief.
        
         | chrisdalke wrote:
         | Your comment is right above someone saying RJ-45 may be the
         | worst connector! That's just the internet I guess.
         | 
         | I think both opinions are right. If you're a professional
         | working in the field, RJ-45/8P8C is awesome because you can do
         | large runs of cable and crimp on connectors after which is a
         | lifesaver. The longevity of the connector is less important
         | than ease of installation/replacement. I've done a little work
         | with marine ethernet and CAN which uses M8/M12 circular
         | connectors and those are pretty painful in contrast.
         | 
         | For consumers, it's exactly the opposite. They're unlikely to
         | have the tools to crimp connectors. Most cables off Amazon come
         | with lots of plastic that makes the cables rigid so it's a pain
         | to route and use in a home.
        
           | anordal wrote:
           | Yes, field termination is mostly for permanent installations,
           | but luckily, there are also proper "industrial" connectors
           | that are field terminable. Such as Harting's PreLink M12
           | connector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35DKv6bhadI
           | 
           | When I say "industrial", I mean for home use, of course.
           | There is obviously a lot of potential for a more robust yet
           | cost effective and practical connector for home use. Field
           | termination being no excuse. First off, even metal 8P8C
           | connectors have plastic tabs. If single-pair ethernet ever
           | takes off, the "industrial" M8 push-pull connector seems a
           | good one.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair#Con.
           | ..
        
         | JoBrad wrote:
         | The adapter actually looks easier to use than the tab on some
         | Ethernet cables.
        
         | puffoflogic wrote:
         | The pictured cable has that built-up end which is supposed to
         | prevent cable strain; re-terminating requires discarding it.
        
           | somat wrote:
           | I am not sure how important the strain relief is, I never
           | bother, but if you really want strain relief there are
           | connectors with it. sometimes they have a metal band you have
           | to crimp around the cable.
        
             | akira2501 wrote:
             | The strain relief is for machine made cables where they
             | glue or melt the relief into the plastic plug. Almost all
             | manual crimp connectors have a strain relief built into
             | them that's meant to grab the jacket and hold the cable
             | right at the entry to the plug.
             | 
             | All my RJ45 and RJ45-EZ connectors in my bag have this
             | locking strain relief tab at the back.
        
       | madaxe_again wrote:
       | I mean, sure, but reterminating with a new, not broken RJ45 only
       | takes 30 seconds, and they cost peanuts.
        
         | justsomehnguy wrote:
         | I mean, sure, but reterminating with a new, not broken patch
         | cable only takes 30 seconds, and they cost peanuts.
         | 
         | But sarcasm aside, you don't want to reterminate a pre-made
         | patch cable. Under a very strange Universe fluctuations where
         | you don't have a spare patch cord, spare 8p8c jack with a
         | crimper _but_ you do have a 3D printer with a plastic loaded
         | and ready to print....
        
         | michael1999 wrote:
         | How do you re-terminate stranded cable? I struggle to terminate
         | solid-core in less that 5 minutes.
        
           | silversmith wrote:
           | Not much to it. Every individual wire is wrapped up, and
           | stays that way. You just need the stranded cable caps with
           | teeth that pierce through the individual wire wrapping when
           | you crimp down on them. Keystones are a pain tho, nobody
           | seems to make them for stranded cable. But you can terminate
           | the cable coming out the wall with a standard cap, and shove
           | a connector where a keystone would go in the socket.
           | 
           | All those things I learned after accidentally buying tons of
           | stranded cable for re-wiring my house :)
        
           | klyrs wrote:
           | It's quite a process, apparently. Amusingly, their "all-in-
           | one" tool doesn't do it all.
           | 
           | https://www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/how-to-
           | termina...
        
             | supermatt wrote:
             | OH MY! Pass-through RJ45... Why havent I seen these before.
             | Arghhh. Im going to have to order some now.
        
               | CodeWriter23 wrote:
               | Yeah, I thought "what kind of newfangled abomination is
               | this" earlier this year, grumbling it was all that was
               | available at Home Depot at that moment. Pleasantly
               | surprised upon using one though, what a great time saver.
        
           | Mikealcl wrote:
           | Easier than you think but one of those things easier to show
           | than do. Muscle memory skill.
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | What do you mean stranded? If you mean standard ethernet
           | cable, it's 8 solid wires. Putting a keystone block takes
           | about 1-2 minutes (with a tool). I spend more time figuring
           | out which wire goes where than the actual retermination.
        
             | danuker wrote:
             | Stranded as in each wire being made up of smaller wires.
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire#Stranded
             | 
             | These are typical in pre-capped wires. While they allow
             | more flexibility of the wire, their ends are hard (if not
             | impossible) to change.
        
               | dekhn wrote:
               | I've never seen stranded wire in an ethernet cable, but I
               | see it's a thing. I occasionally turn my male-male
               | ethernet into male-female with a keystone block and never
               | see stranded.
               | 
               | I dabble in electronics and I eliminate stranded wire
               | whenever I find it. Some people love it but I find it
               | really inconvenient.
        
               | burntwater wrote:
               | Solid Ethernet cabling should generally only be used on
               | permanent building cable that never move. Stranded should
               | be used on patch cables and cables that get moved around.
               | Beyond being more difficult to handle, regular movement
               | will break solid copper, often leading to intermittent
               | connectivity.
        
               | Akronymus wrote:
               | Stranded ones are very common in patch cables.
        
             | wrigby wrote:
             | Cable bought on long spools to install permanently is
             | usually solid, while patch cables are usually stranded.
             | Most of the time, you'll end up buying pre-terminated
             | stranded cable, and all the cable you terminate yourself
             | will be solid.
        
           | CodeWriter23 wrote:
           | You have to use an RJ-45 for stranded cable, not solid.
        
           | somat wrote:
           | The trick is the jack, you need the plug for stranded cable.
           | and don't try to use stranded plugs on solid core, as I found
           | out the hard way it is nothing but pain.
        
         | pxx wrote:
         | 30 seconds? I can hardly even get the wires in the right order
         | in that amount of time and don't get me started on shielded
         | connectors...
        
           | CodeWriter23 wrote:
           | I hardly think this add-on clip is an appropriate fix for
           | applications requiring shielded connectors.
        
         | pantalaimon wrote:
         | Eh maybe if you are used to doing it. I always fail miserably
         | and the cable gets ever shorter.
        
       | mastax wrote:
       | I don't have problems with RJ45 tabs breaking off. I do have two
       | problems with the connectors:
       | 
       | 1. Sometimes the connectors don't latch properly in the port and
       | fall right out. I try to bend the tab out further to help it
       | latch but it never stays.
       | 
       | 2. Some patch cables have rubber over moulding that covers the
       | latch that's so stiff that I have trouble getting it to release.
       | Who even wants the latches to be covered? One of my cables has a
       | thin rubber tab over the clip that stops it from snagging on
       | things, I guess, but doesn't inhibit unlatching. But it seems
       | that the most popular over moulding is the terrible one.
        
         | travisporter wrote:
         | To counter your experience tho, the clip helps with cable from
         | coming out of my router, the rubber helps with the tab breaking
         | when it caches on another cable.
        
         | asddubs wrote:
         | well, clearly the latches are covered so it doesn't break off
         | because something gets caught behind it
        
       | iLoveOncall wrote:
       | I have printed this very model and it wasn't compatible with any
       | of the cables I tried. It's also extremely weak and will break
       | very easily (they all broke within a minute of trying to install
       | them).
       | 
       | It's less than 10 min of print time so it's worth trying, but
       | expect it to fail.
        
       | actionfromafar wrote:
       | I'm starting to think I have dreamt this but... wasn't there an
       | IBM Ethernet cable with instead of the little tab ending in ...
       | nothing, it was a little bridge that went back down, so nothing
       | to hook/snag on. But it didn't look quite like the 3D printed one
       | here, but it was symmetrical looking, like a tiny tiny arch
       | bridge.
       | 
       | Oh, and it was made of springy metal, in this maybe dream.
        
         | opan wrote:
         | Unsure if IBM is involved, but there is the "industrial
         | ethernet" connector that's different.
         | 
         | Tried to find it and found a few variants, but the one I had in
         | mind is the "ix industrial ethernet" that's used by the MNT
         | Pocket Reform.
        
         | JoBrad wrote:
         | Pretty sure I've seen a version of this cable that had a solid
         | tab that bent in the middle. I have no idea what the brand/name
         | is, and just spent way too long looking for it. It wasn't
         | metal, but sounds like a plastic version of what you're talking
         | about. I remember really liking them.
         | 
         | Edit: I think this is it. https://linkup.one/linkup-snagless-
         | rj45-cat6-stp-connectors-...
        
       | enriquto wrote:
       | Heh. The first thing I do with a new ethernet cable is to break
       | the clip, laptop side. It's orders of magnitude better to have an
       | occasional disconnection than to trip with the cable and make the
       | laptop fall from the table.
       | 
       | I did not invent this. I've seen legendary graybeards do it. I
       | see it as a rite of maturity, like cyclists who discard the caps
       | of their presta valves.
        
         | liotier wrote:
         | Send DM - I have a carton of broken RJ-45 cables to sell you !
        
           | hollerith wrote:
           | There are no DMs on this site.
        
             | Firmwarrior wrote:
             | you just hunt the guy down IRL based on his writing
             | patterns or any personally identifiable info he let slip
             | over the years, then leave a scrap of paper with the DM in
             | his real-life mailbox
        
         | VincentEvans wrote:
         | What are those for? My laptop has internet, but I don't need to
         | plug it anywhere for it to work. Is this for computers like
         | they had in the really old movies like Back to the Future?
        
           | AdamTReineke wrote:
           | I'm convinced that a wired connection is better for video
           | calls. Just like headphones. I'm my opinion, those two things
           | are table stakes for a good remote work experience for your
           | coworkers.
        
             | bombcar wrote:
             | Yep my wired is 10Gb and it is better than wireless.
        
             | Mogzol wrote:
             | I was convinced of that until I was forced to stop using a
             | wired connection (moved to a room that didn't have
             | ethernet). I'm on wifi now and notice literally no
             | difference compared to when I was on ethernet. As long as
             | you've got a decent router/AP, modern wifi is really not
             | bad. I get a consistent 400-500 Mb/s up and down with no
             | hiccups. On my wifi 6 devices I get closer to a Gb/s.
        
               | ornornor wrote:
               | It's not only throughput. Wifi is more susceptible to
               | jitter as well. But yeah in some cases wifi works well,
               | whereas wired always works well. And if wired doesn't
               | work then your internet connection is bad and wifi won't
               | help either.
        
           | mig39 wrote:
           | This is the best troll comment ever :-) Look at the replies
           | taking you seriously :-) Including me.
           | 
           | When you have a lot of wireless devices, for every one you
           | take off wireless, you have less radio traffic, less
           | interference, and everyone else has a better connection :-)
           | 
           | In my network, unless something _has_ to be wireless, I run a
           | cable :-)
        
             | Smoosh wrote:
             | Same with me re wired whenever possible.
             | 
             | Especially for things like streaming boxes which want a
             | good connection and use high bandwidth.
             | 
             | I save the wifi for things that really need it, and they
             | should be faster as a result.
        
           | russdill wrote:
           | There's a large number of reasons, reliability, bandwidth,
           | latency, security, but really with the rise of thunderbolt
           | and USB c docks there's no longer a need to plug a laptop
           | directly into Ethernet.
        
             | TacticalCoder wrote:
             | > but really with the rise of thunderbolt and USB c docks
             | there's no longer a need to plug a laptop directly into
             | Ethernet.
             | 
             | Especially when the laptop does _not_ have an Ethernet
             | port. For me it 's USB-C to Ethernet adapter when my laptop
             | is in my office room, and pathetic WiFi elsewhere.
             | 
             | I take it I should try one of these USB-C to USB-C magnetic
             | things (a la Magsafe): don't know if they're any good.
        
             | comboy wrote:
             | Guys, VincentEvans has almost 10 years old account, I doubt
             | he needs these explanations. I've never seen such joke
             | being misinterpreted on HN. Heartwarming patience for
             | youngsters though.
        
           | Firmwarrior wrote:
           | Cables are so that you don't lag in the middle of an
           | important boss encounter at work or play when someone turns
           | on the microwave
        
             | bornfreddy wrote:
             | Off topic, but if your microwave does that, it is time to
             | either fix or retire it.
        
               | ornornor wrote:
               | Why? Do you mean because it leaks microwaves? I believe
               | that's an urban legend as you'd notice very quickly.
               | 
               | Microwaves always kill wifi for me if they're in the path
               | between device and AP.
        
               | bagels wrote:
               | What's an urban legend? That your kitchen microwave leaks
               | rf? I'd be surprised if any of them somehow didn't. It
               | takes a tremendous effort to stop all rf leaks in a
               | device.
        
               | myself248 wrote:
               | This happened to a coworker of mine. He was having
               | sporadic wifi trouble, always in the evening but not
               | every evening. Plugging in wired would always solve it,
               | so it was definitely a wireless problem.
               | 
               | I handed him one of my old Ubiquiti M-series APs, the
               | ones with the spectrum analyzer function built in. Showed
               | him how to use it on his laptop, how to turn in a circle
               | and estimate the azimuth of the source, etc. He went home
               | that evening and as soon as his connection dropped, he
               | fired up the analyzer. Very quickly localized the source
               | to the driveway side of the house.... to the neighbor's
               | kitchen.
               | 
               | At that point he called me for advice, and I said to
               | knock on the neighbor's door, because this is really
               | unsafe. He put me on speakerphone and I was able to tell
               | them what we found, and they cut me off, saying they knew
               | the door seal was damaged -- it got torn a few weeks
               | prior when someone caught something in the door -- they
               | just had no idea it was a big deal. (It's normal to feel
               | a warm draft near the corner of the unit since the fan
               | exhaust blows out down there, so the warm-sunshine
               | feeling wasn't distinct enough to alarm anyone.)
               | 
               | They replaced the microwave the next day and the problem
               | went away.
        
           | newaccount74 wrote:
           | Ethernet has more bandwidth and lower ping than Wifi. And is
           | mostly immune to interference. If you have a lot of devices
           | on Wifi, it helps to put your main devices on Ethernet.
        
             | pletnes wrote:
             | Often true, but since many a corporation now prioritizes
             | wifi or stops deploying ethernet to avoid the cost, AND
             | wifi keeps getting better, the lines have crossed for me.
             | Oh and I need a USB-C to ethernet dongle. Oh, and a cable.
             | TL;DR for me, wifi now beats ethernet at work.
        
               | celtain wrote:
               | Thanks to USB-C I just keep my Ethernet cable plugged
               | into my monitor (via a USB dongle), and now when I plug
               | in my external display I not only get power but also
               | wired networking.
        
               | brian-armstrong wrote:
               | Your company comes to your home to deploy internet for
               | you? Fancy!
        
           | funhatch wrote:
           | What's a laptop, grandad? I can code on my tablet /s
        
             | dmd wrote:
             | I learned recently that most high school students around
             | here (fairly affluent Boston suburb) write papers - even
             | long 10+ page ones - on their phones.
        
             | munk-a wrote:
             | What's a tablet grandpa? I code in Roblox /s
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | lm28469 wrote:
           | Not all networks are wireless enabled
        
         | phyzome wrote:
         | I can't relate to this at all! If I have a broken clip, I can't
         | get the plug to stay in for more than about 5 minutes. And I
         | never route the ethernet cord somewhere where I'll trip on
         | it...
        
         | aulin wrote:
         | what's this thing about presta caps? cyclist for 10+ years,
         | never heard about it
        
           | ruiseal wrote:
           | The caps on presta valves aren't necessary as there's no way
           | for dirt to get into the valve stem (unlike Schrader valves
           | which can get clogged). The caps are useful for transporting
           | the tube though to prevent the valve from puncturing
           | anything.
           | 
           | Wheel reflectors are also pretty useless so you can remove
           | those too. Plus you save some weight.
        
             | ornornor wrote:
             | > Wheel reflectors are also pretty useless
             | 
             | Never understood that. More visibility = potentially
             | slightly less likely to get hit by a distracted driver so
             | why remove the shiny reflectors spinning on your wheels?
             | 
             | And what's a 20g saving per wheel when we carry so much
             | more extra weight on our bodies.
        
             | ilikejam wrote:
             | These...
             | 
             | https://reflectivesupplies.co.uk/products/salzmann-3m-scotc
             | h...
             | 
             | are better than plastic plate reflectors in every way.
        
             | askvictor wrote:
             | Interesting. Though I'd argue that if the valve gets dirt
             | on it, then eventually, when you unscrew it, some of that
             | dirt will get deeper (particularly if you're completely
             | flat and there's no pressure to push it out), and perhaps
             | stop if from sealing perfectly. But I try to keep gear
             | running for a very long time; this approach might be from
             | cyclist who replace things a lot more often?
             | 
             | And yes, wheel reflectors are utterly useless.
        
         | adrianmonk wrote:
         | Seems like laptop ethernet jacks should be built to do this.
         | 
         | Grip the tab, but lightly, so that a small force will pull it
         | out.
        
         | renewiltord wrote:
         | The valve cap thing is really funny. It's funny. I upgraded to
         | a nice aero bike with Dura Ace everything, and then promptly
         | got in an unrelated motorcycle accident and gained 25 lbs.
         | 
         | My weight gain is some multiple of how much I saved. Those
         | Zipps have been outdone by my own gluttony. But one day I shall
         | make the valve caps matter!
        
       | myself248 wrote:
       | Can also just buy a bag of 'em:
       | https://www.techtoolsupply.com/RJ-45-Quick-Plug-Easy-Repair-...
       | 
       | I'm still working my way through the 50-count bag I bought in
       | 2018; evidently I don't actually encounter that many broken
       | cables, they just exert an outsized effect on my psyche when I
       | do.
        
         | dheera wrote:
         | But do you want it delivered in 2 days or 30 minutes?
        
           | mad182 wrote:
           | I just cut off the broken connector and put on a new one in 2
           | minutes...
        
           | opan wrote:
           | I actually thought the 2 days was for the 3d printer on first
           | read. Are they not incredibly slow these days?
        
             | Mogzol wrote:
             | They're slow, but this part is also very small. 30 minutes
             | is a pretty good estimate.
        
           | kotaKat wrote:
           | The 2 days of waiting beats the 6 hours I'll spend cursing
           | why the 3d printer isn't printing "just right" later today to
           | be able to wait 30 minutes for it to finally print out a
           | handful of them.
        
             | fnordpiglet wrote:
             | Clearly not written by an engineer.
        
               | kotaKat wrote:
               | Nah, I have too many other ADHD projects on my brain to
               | try to suddenly squeeze in "figure out the 3D printer
               | again" ;)
        
               | bombcar wrote:
               | A true engineer orders the part and then immediately
               | starts trying to build it.
        
               | fnordpiglet wrote:
               | Fair point.
        
               | myself248 wrote:
               | Well, well, well, if it isn't my unauthorized biography!
        
         | windexh8er wrote:
         | I'm legit confused as to why this is a thing. Crimping ends is
         | dead simple with pass-thru style RJ-45 tools. I don't think I'd
         | trust these "repair" connectors for anything important.
         | 
         | For price comparison a pack of EZ RJ-45 (Cat6 rated) is around
         | $20 and a pass thru crimper is about the same. Even cheaper if
         | you go old school.
        
           | runjake wrote:
           | Because recrimping is a pain, and this fix is quick and cheap
           | and they stay secured well.
           | 
           | But yeah, pass-through RJ-45 is great.
        
           | gambiting wrote:
           | I don't own a crimping tool or spare connectors. I do however
           | own a 3D printer and lots of spools that sit around doing
           | nothing. This is probably the coolest thing I've found to 3D
           | print in a while, I'm very excited to try it.
        
           | pmontra wrote:
           | I crimped Cat6 cables recently and found out that it's not as
           | easy as crimping Cat5 years ago. Maybe it's the older me but
           | I ended up with a lot of failed cables to redo. Eventually
           | the price per working cable is not that good. Next time I
           | bought tool less Cat6 plugs and sockets. Not only they are
           | faster to work with but they are fool proof. Not a single
           | faulty cable. They cost more per piece but for people like me
           | they end up being cheaper.
        
             | kadoban wrote:
             | I feel like you were probably just rusty if you haven't
             | done it for a while. I barely know what I'm doing, don't do
             | it often enough to really get good, don't have great tools,
             | and I still get 80-90% success rate.
        
               | anarazel wrote:
               | I have had decent success using self crimped cables for
               | 1gbit, but for 10gbit my success rate is way lower. Which
               | makes sense, but has made me more hesitant to crimp
               | myself.
        
               | kadoban wrote:
               | Yeah that's a good point, 10g is likely harder.
        
           | eurasiantiger wrote:
           | The connector stays the same, only the latch clip is
           | replaced. Add a drop of elastic superglue if in doubt.
        
           | jibe wrote:
           | Is there a specific crimper you recommend?
        
             | roperj wrote:
             | The Klein VDV226-110
        
             | subhro wrote:
             | I prefer https://www.truecable.com/products/all-in-one-
             | crimp-and-term... and pretty much every single one of their
             | tools.
        
               | myself248 wrote:
               | Oh niiiiiiiiice. That looks like it fixes every single
               | complaint I've had about similar tools.
               | 
               | I hope the ratchet is good; I just had the ratchet blow
               | out on that Klein that everyone recommends, and I went
               | back to my trusty Ideal Telemaster.
        
             | tunap wrote:
             | Klein hand tools. Full stop.
             | 
             | Below is my favorite. Caveat, it takes some getting
             | accustomed to if you're used to the standard plier
             | style(They make those, too).
             | 
             | edit:plier handle style, not wrench
             | 
             | https://www.kleintools.com/catalog/cable-tools/ratcheting-
             | ca...
        
               | repiret wrote:
               | I've got that tool and I couldn't be happier with it.
               | Works good, does RJ11, supports pass-through RJ45, has
               | the color coding on it so I don't have to look it up. Not
               | too pricy too.
        
               | joshu wrote:
               | Another vote for exactly this. It's great. Get the
               | passthrough connectors
        
         | Damogran6 wrote:
         | But then how do you justify your 3d printer?
         | 
         | (Kidding, I already know you justify them by printing bottlecap
         | openers.)
        
           | code_biologist wrote:
           | I've recently been printing a lot of terrain STLs for
           | miniature games (MyMiniFactory or patreons are great) using a
           | 0.25mm nozzle on my FDM printer, then airbrushing to paint
           | them quickly. It's a far more satisfying justification than
           | just printing random brackets and boxes!
        
             | specproc wrote:
             | Yeah, this. Such a cool and interesting scene.
        
             | ornornor wrote:
             | Speak for yourself! I get the most enjoyment and
             | satisfaction out of printing spare parts to fix things I
             | own but for which parts are unavailable or prohibitively
             | expensive; or to design add-ons to make the things I
             | already own work better for me.
             | 
             | To me it's the opposite: printing dust-gathering figurines
             | and other baubles with a 3D printer seems rather
             | unappealing.
             | 
             | To each their own!
        
               | ninth_ant wrote:
               | For folks who actively play games with minis (as is the
               | case with the person you replied to), a 3D printer is an
               | excellent addition to the hobby.
        
               | gerdesj wrote:
               | I like both!
               | 
               | I printed a set of new hinges for a large outdoor plastic
               | storage unit. It has my lawn mower, strimmer etc in it.
               | It would have been skipped years ago because the doors
               | kept falling in or out. Bit embarrassed that we bought
               | the bloody thing in the first place but printing new
               | hinges has avoided landfill and a replacement. The new
               | hinges have lasted four years and counting. SW UK, local
               | unofficial temp range -5C to 35C in that time, so not too
               | nasty. The PLA has discoloured a bit due to UV but not
               | gone brittle.
               | 
               | I also have some little tanks on my desk and a dragon.
               | There's some phenomenal models on Thingie.
        
           | rainbowzootsuit wrote:
           | I've been enjoying gridfinity to keep the print head warm on
           | long cold nights.
           | 
           | https://old.reddit.com/r/gridfinity
        
             | blamazon wrote:
             | For the unfamiliar, gridfinity is a project kicked off by
             | Zack Freedman, who makes awesome YouTube videos with his
             | life partner:
             | 
             | https://youtu.be/ra_9zU-mnl8
             | 
             | (Yes, that is a monocular HUD on his face, it's his
             | teleprompter. There are a bunch of videos on the channel
             | chronicling the various iterations of it)
        
           | PostOnce wrote:
           | A 3D printer has taught me mechanical engineering like my
           | computer taught me programming
        
             | GeorgeTirebiter wrote:
             | Although this seems to me like saying "learning BASIC has
             | taught me Computer Science" -- yes, the principles of MechE
             | can be learned by study + some actual 3D printed models.
             | But to truly grok MechE, you need mastery of some CAD
             | program (OpenSCAD is my choice, but I also use FreeCAD),
             | and the ability to fabricate in some other materials
             | (metals) using subtractive methods. Plus, you know, a
             | little math here and there...
             | 
             | I like your reasoning tho; I got mine when it was on sale,
             | and just before the pandemic - so I have plenty of
             | learnings about PLA, ABS, PETG, temperatures, glue or not,
             | surface, and most of all -- plenty of piles of material
             | creating 'modern art' rather than my planned masterpieces.
             | '-)
        
               | shepherdjerred wrote:
               | I think you took this the opposite way. My interpretation
               | was that using a computer (web browsing, editing word
               | documents, whatever) doesn't teach you CS. In the same
               | way, using a 3D printer doesn't (by itself) teach ME.
        
               | GeorgeTirebiter wrote:
               | Well-put.
               | 
               | Perhaps, distilled, it's this: having a 3D printer, by
               | itself, won't turn you into a MechE. But, if you do have
               | a 3D printer, you can learn the basics of ME and try out
               | some practical ideas with real parts.
               | 
               | I specifically got my 3D printer to make gears. I do have
               | a Sherline mill, as well as a 12" (Chinese) lathe; so I
               | do have the specific tools to create involute gears out
               | of metals. However, since I planned on doing so many
               | different gears, as I wasn't really sure what I needed,
               | AND the fact that with subtractive manufacturing, if you
               | make certain mistakes, you throw the whole piece away and
               | start over -- 3D printing makes creating new parts as
               | trivial as starting it up again. The other total win of
               | 3D is e.g. Thingverse where you can d/l a design -- it's
               | the closest thing we have to Star Trek's replicator.
               | 
               | Lastly, Michael Faraday wrote an entire book on candles. 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chemical_History_of_a_C
               | and... So much can be learned from little!
        
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             | VBprogrammer wrote:
             | Definitely made learning a bit of CAD more interesting when
             | you can actually apply it to real life.
        
           | matthewmacleod wrote:
           | Obviously you use it to print 3D printer parts.
        
             | dustymcp wrote:
             | Is 3d printers as annoying as their 2d cousins ?
        
               | kristopolous wrote:
               | I just got nightmares about trying to interface one
               | through CUPS
        
               | GeorgeTirebiter wrote:
               | Funny thing, except for the occasional 3D print that
               | becomes a pile of plastic, they're pretty good. Keep it
               | clean, level, change the nozzle occasionally, use good
               | quality material, and it's pretty good.
               | 
               | For 2D printers: they are just money pits due to the
               | toner costs; and do everything they can to make sure you
               | buy Their toner. Buy a name-brand color laser, use it
               | sparingly, and it's a wonderful way to have the
               | occasional color picture, graph, or research report
               | w/color diagrams. (I have a Brother, which I like.)
        
               | wccrawford wrote:
               | It certainly depends on your printer. Some are incredibly
               | reliable, and some are known for being crap.
               | 
               | Of course, you can upgrade them, but if you have an off-
               | brand printer it can be hard to find good upgrades to fix
               | the problems.
               | 
               | I started off with a clone of a decent printer, but the
               | clones are iffy. I lucked out and got a good one! The
               | next one I bought from that brand was _crap_.
               | 
               | I recently printed a Voron v0.1 and it's been decent so
               | far, and I'm working on some upgrades. Luckily it's
               | really popular and there are lots of known upgrades. The
               | kit was more expensive than my other 2 printers combined,
               | and it's a _lot_ smaller... But I 'm planning on using it
               | to completely retrofit at least one of the other 2 now.
        
               | myself248 wrote:
               | Not hardly.
               | 
               | They have problems, but they're usually easily solved,
               | and you'll never fight with drivers.
               | 
               | Furthermore, the cheapest 3D printers are _made_ to use
               | with generic supplies, it's not like the "give away the
               | inkjet, sell the ink" model you see with 2D printers.
               | They're almost universally based around open-source
               | software and mostly-open hardware now, so there's a
               | thriving ecosystem of mods and upgrades, which can be
               | bewildering but you don't need any of that at all to get
               | started.
               | 
               | The problem is that they're mindblowingly slow. A typical
               | 3D print might run 5 or 10 hours, to make a functional
               | object like a desk pen organizer. And because parts of
               | the thing get hot, you don't want to leave it unattended
               | -- fires are rare but they can happen. So, you have to
               | plan your prints around your life, or vice-versa.
               | 
               | Mercifully, the default mode of operation is just to read
               | files from an SD card that you sneakernet over to the
               | thing. That gets annoying if you're doing a lot of small
               | prints and tweaking things (and there are network options
               | for that, or direct USB connection), but it's a godsend
               | when your printjob is longer than your workstation's
               | typical uptime...
        
           | Ptchd wrote:
           | I justify the 3d-printer for printing prototypes.... of
           | course they aren't ideal for production...
           | 
           | At less then $200, it is well worth it.
        
             | the_cat_kittles wrote:
             | exactly what i use it for- prototypes, one off jigs and
             | such, spacers etc. its so useful for stuff that needs a
             | certain awkward geometry and fairly high dimensional
             | accuracy. i just dont see myself ever using it for
             | production parts, though i do have a 6 ft auger i printed
             | which has moved tons of material by now with no problems
        
               | Ptchd wrote:
               | It's perfect for iterating/debugging designs...
               | 
               | I think you should tell more about the 6ft auger though!
               | :)
        
         | capableweb wrote:
         | I like the design in the submission more, as it doesn't seem
         | like it'll break as easy as the one you linked. Those you
         | linked have that "open backside flap" that breaks so easily
         | when you're pulling cables around and it gets stuck on
         | something, quickly breaking off. While the submission one has
         | both sides closed, so pulling a cable means it won't get stuck
         | anywhere, much preferred.
        
         | mmastrac wrote:
         | I had no idea this existed and I think I need to buy a bag.
        
           | marcosdumay wrote:
           | And to carry a few around at my pockets everywhere.
        
             | actionfromafar wrote:
             | I just had the (to others obvious I'm sure) ultimate idea
             | endgame - we will all have a mini 3D printer in our
             | pockets, with a library of handy things.
        
         | mcbits wrote:
         | It's a 1 cent item being sold for 22 cents, probably at least
         | 30 cents with shipping. The 3D printer can't compete with the 1
         | cent but can compete with the 30 cents and definitely with the
         | $15 if you really only need one clip and the "spare parts I may
         | never use" drawer/closet/room is full.
        
       | latchkey wrote:
       | I might just have to buy a 3d printer now.
        
         | Filligree wrote:
         | If you're serious about that, then please consider the Bambu
         | Labs P1P, X1, or any of the Prusa printers.
         | 
         | There are cheaper ones, but they're all terrible. Personally, I
         | think the X1 is the best. Prusa's printers are good, but a
         | little dated.
        
           | dawnerd wrote:
           | I dunno if I would call cheaper ones terrible. My 99 dollar
           | Ender 3 Pro with a couple mods does extremely well
           | considering the price. The detail you can get out of it is
           | more than enough for what I've needed it for. I'd highly
           | suggest trying the cheaper ones out first, especially if you
           | live near a microcenter.
        
             | grepLeigh wrote:
             | I think the amount of modding/tuning required to achieve
             | good results with a low-end printer is a turn-off for most
             | people. Imagine if you had to spend 40-100 hours modding
             | your microwave before you could start cooking quick
             | weeknight meals - that amount of effort isn't worth the
             | trade-off unless you're a modding enthusiast.
             | 
             | I second the recommendations for Prusa and Bambu Labs. My
             | Prusas are especially reliable for daily tasks, and started
             | my obsession with 3D printing a few years back. If you have
             | an open weekend coming up, the self-assembly Prusa kit is a
             | delightful example of excellent technical documentation.
        
               | newaccount74 wrote:
               | I recently bought a Prusa Mini+ (self assembly kit) and
               | it is truly a fantastic product. The documentation is
               | phenomenal. The step-by-step guide makes it very easy to
               | assemble, and the best part is that when you are done you
               | know every part and understand where to open it if eg.
               | the filament gets stuck somewhere.
        
           | roboben wrote:
           | X1 means Artillery Sidewinder X1?
        
             | Filligree wrote:
             | Bambu Labs X1
        
           | silversmith wrote:
           | Sure, if you are very serious about it. But anecdotally, a
           | lot of folks buy 3d printers only for them to gather dust.
           | Unless you are really up there on income, get something
           | cheaper to start. Ender 3, while being _objectively_ worse,
           | can be had for peanuts compared to Bambu Labs printers. I
           | have one sitting in the room next door, bought on a whim
           | after noticing a very good deal. While I would love a better
           | one, it has taught me what at-home 3d printing can be used
           | for, and what are the main features to look for in the next
           | upgrade. And the limits of applicability I 've run into have
           | thus far been mainly down to materials and my design
           | capabilities, and better hardware won't solve those.
        
             | chrisdalke wrote:
             | 3D printers have exited the hype cycle and now are in two
             | categories:
             | 
             | People who bought them as a cool consumer gadget similar to
             | VR. These printers are gathering dust because there
             | ultimately isn't that much interesting plastic junk to
             | print.
             | 
             | Silently churning out hundreds of rapid prototypes a month
             | for engineers & makers. In my circle it's just become an
             | assumption that you have 2-3 printers running when
             | prototyping a project. 3D printers have just become a
             | background tool rather than something that you actively
             | tinker with + improve. I got mine down to decent print
             | quality and haven't upgraded it in years, but print daily!
        
             | grepLeigh wrote:
             | I make monitoring/automation software for 3D printers, and
             | I'm thinking about adding a "make something every day"
             | achievement to help with this. I'm collecting
             | handy/functional prints (like the OP) to make it easy to
             | achieve.
             | 
             | It takes a lot of activation AND creative energy to figure
             | out something useful/functional to print, then execute on
             | your vision.
        
               | silversmith wrote:
               | Please consider "make something every week" instead. With
               | how long it takes to think up and design truly useful
               | prints, especially if you have a day job that does not
               | involve CAD... "something every day" will mean "something
               | off of the popular page on thingiverse every day, then
               | into the bin next day" for many would-be achievement
               | hunters.
        
               | grepLeigh wrote:
               | That's a much better idea, thank you!
        
               | chubbnix wrote:
               | Given the lifespan of plastic products I don't think it's
               | so bad that people let their printers sit unused for
               | extended periods of time. If you don't have a
               | useful/desired object to print I would rather they not
               | make a plastic object that will last hundreds of years
               | and cannot be currently recycled except by doing it
               | yourself. I would be concerned that achievement hunters
               | would in fact be motivated by your idea and will be
               | printing benchies or other useless objects they don't
               | actually want to keep the streak up. Maybe instead you
               | could make a handy way for the users to list their print
               | wishlist so they could keep it running with stuff they
               | need/want instead of the ritual.
        
               | makapuf wrote:
               | I print PLA and I don't think those are very durable.
               | Sure, ABS is. That's why I think for the kind of widgets
               | were printing, i think it's best to use flimsy PLA.
        
               | grepLeigh wrote:
               | Thanks for the comment. I hadn't considered that people
               | might print junk just to get an achievement, but that
               | does seem like an obvious misaligned incentive now.
               | 
               | Maybe it'd be better to collect models that solve a
               | specific problem, like "kitchen drawer organizer set" or
               | "cable management kit." I want the game-ification to help
               | provide activation energy needed to do something creative
               | and get into the habit of using the 3D printer to solve
               | household problems. This has certainly helped my house
               | buy less plastic crap shipped from overseas. For example,
               | I need a new dog poop bag dispenser for my curb - instead
               | of buying one, I'm going to 3D print one. =)
               | 
               | If I do launch something like this, I'll make sure the
               | naming is "Make Something Useful" or "Make Something
               | Functional."
        
       | VBprogrammer wrote:
       | I've just remembered that while having our second child the nurse
       | couldn't get the monitoring in the nursing station due to one of
       | these clips. The ethernet socket was quite high up the wall so
       | the weight of the cable was handing from the slightly broken
       | clip. Thankfully even in my frazzled state I was able to suggest
       | turning the cable around end for end so that the one with a good
       | tab was plugged into the wall.
        
         | Waterluvian wrote:
         | There's a joke on Instagram of a lady in the delivery room
         | giving her partner (an electrician) a stern look because he's
         | testing the outlets for compliance and discussing why some are
         | inverted with the ground up.
         | 
         | I'm picturing you and your partner having a similar scenario
         | and it's rather amusing. :)
        
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