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       I wanted to see how difficult it would be to build a web app using
       a sub-$300 android smartphone. Decided to build a fun predictions
       website where you could bet virtual (not real) money on predictions
       made by others, and also make predictions of your own.  Building it
       turned out to be considerably easier and more fun than I
       anticipated.  Primary tools used were:  # QuickEdit as the mobile
       code editor (Note: the free version of the QuickEdit app is riddled
       with ads, it shows an advert each time you close a tab, but it
       unfortunately had the best UI of the 3 or so Android code editors I
       tested. Ended up using NetGuard to block it from retrieving &
       displaying ads),  # PHP for the Backend ( custom PHP microframework
       I've used and built on over the past few years ).  # jQuery for the
       frontend js ( _cringing_ ) - it appears I'm simply too lazy to
       learn React/Vue/et al. Every once in a while, I pick one of them to
       learn, but I always end up returning to jQuery - or time-permitting
       - amateur level vanilla JS.  # Bootstrap for the CSS - Battle-
       tested. For a purely backend dev with minimal design skills, good
       ol' Bootstrap (and in a growing number of cases, Tailwind) is
       always a life saver.  # Whole thing is hosted on 2 VMs (1 hosting
       the web app, and 1 hosting Redis & MySQL).  # As to the site
       itself, it turned out to be pretty cool to play around with. Go
       there, view the predictions, bet on the predictions you believe
       will come true, or against the ones you think will not. You get
       $50,000 to bet with (not real money). No signup is required to bet,
       but a quick signup is required to make a prediction. Hope you guys
       like it, and please be ruthless in telling me of any bugs you've
       found.  So go on here => kudotap.com  And Have Fun!
        
       Author : rose_ann_
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-11-24 21:07 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (kudotap.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (kudotap.com)
        
       | algo_trader wrote:
       | Interesting. Why a 300$ phone?
       | 
       | Can u share how long it took to build and what is your day job ?
        
         | rose_ann_ wrote:
         | Took roughly 2 weeks from start to finish. Work as a web dev in
         | an accounting firm. As to the choice of the phone, got a
         | Samsung Galaxy A23 on takealot.com a while back and decided to
         | use it to build a site
        
           | quadrature wrote:
           | Now you have a second job updating the prediction outcomes
           | :P. I was thinking it would be cool to sync them from github
           | so folks could contribute an outcome.
        
             | rose_ann_ wrote:
        
       | mwint wrote:
       | Oh how I wish this existed a couple years ago, when everyone was
       | making various shades of "the world is going to end" predictions.
       | I would be a virtual billionaire!
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | There were real life betting markets for all events, and people
         | were even using it to predict the state of the world based on
         | "wisdom of the crowd". But IIRC they mostly got outlawed, so
         | they just exist for closed circles now.
        
         | madrox wrote:
         | I actually built this as a startup two years ago. There's quite
         | a few "prediction market" website out there which can be both
         | for karma and real money. We tried to combine predictions with
         | social media to allow users to build authority. The hard scale
         | problem here is the reputation of the artibers of the
         | challenge.
         | 
         | We ended up pivoting when we realized to make this compelling
         | at scale we'd essentially become a news site, and we didn't
         | want to do that.
        
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       | armchairhacker wrote:
       | What if someone posts a very likely or unlikely bet (e.g. "the
       | next Mega Millions numbers will be ..."? Can everyone bet $30,000
       | against and then everyone gets $30,000?
       | 
       | You may want a system where, the more skewed a bet is, the less
       | money gets paid out by the majority side and more money gets paid
       | to the minority. That way, bets like those don't really get you
       | anything, unless you bet the unlikely case and win, then you get
       | a well-deserved jackpot.
        
       | sshine wrote:
       | Behavioural economists as well as poker players know that people
       | make very different decisions when the money is real. The
       | psychology is different.
        
         | netsharc wrote:
         | OP should've called it Kudocoin and started with the price of,
         | let's say, $2 for 50000 Kudocoins, [s]he'd be rich!
         | 
         | Oh wait, it's 2022 and crypto has imploded...
         | 
         | Edit: corrected gender, I don't know why your reply got
         | downvoted to death, sorry OP.
        
           | rose_ann_ wrote:
           | Building the site was more of an intellectual exercise to see
           | how easy or difficult building using a low priced smartphone
           | would be.
           | 
           | P.S. OP's a "she"
        
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