[HN Gopher] Sticky Notes for the Internet ___________________________________________________________________ Sticky Notes for the Internet Author : lawrencehook Score : 100 points Date : 2022-11-27 17:55 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (lawrencehook.com) (TXT) w3m dump (lawrencehook.com) | chadlavi wrote: | nothing for Safari? | lawrencehook wrote: | Unfortunately Apple has substantially more hoops to jump | through in order to publish to the Safari extension store. | Maybe in the future. | turshija wrote: | As a regular MacOS stickes user this looks very promising! | | Few requests: | | - save sticky position on a website with scrollbar instead of | being position fixed (scratch that, realised there is an option | for that using right click -> pin to page, nice) | | - change dimensions and position to use pixels instead of percent | to preserve dimensions when changing browser size | | - "minimized" sticky should display first line of the note | lawrencehook wrote: | these are good ideas, thank you | ortusdux wrote: | 3M is reportedly quite aggressive about defending their canary | yellow note trademark. | lawrencehook wrote: | Interesting.. I took the color scheme from the Stickies | application on MacOS, so hopefully 3M goes after Apple before | me :) | splittingTimes wrote: | Maybe Apple pays licensing fees or has permissions from 3M... | s3000 wrote: | Do you see a way to combine this with ActivityPub so that there | are public notes for websites? | lawrencehook wrote: | I'm quite unfamiliar with Web3 so can't say that I do. | ghewgill wrote: | That's fine, ActivityPub[0] has nothing to do with the | "Web3". | | [0]: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ | lawrencehook wrote: | Ah, I misread the Google results. Looks neat, I'll take a | look. | lawrencehook wrote: | I made a browser extension that lets you leave notes on websites. | | Some features: search by content, add tags, sync, export/import | afusalan wrote: | I've been pondering about the idea of a collaborative browsing | lately like social browsing, figjam for websites, maybe like | replit but for browsing there's a couple of examples but the | best one so far is Tris.com, i used it for a while but UX is | not the greatest so i stopped using it. Would be cool to have | that. | lawrencehook wrote: | That's a neat idea. Quite ambitious, but agreed it would be | cool | lawrencehook wrote: | * Just noticed the HOST variable in the extension code is | pointing to localhost rather than my server, so login/register | isn't going to work for a bit. Updated but it'll take up to an | hour to be released. :facepalm: | | edit: the fix is released! | taikahessu wrote: | Feedback: I instantly tried moving a note around on my phone. Did | not move. Then I tapped a note and it opened fullscreen and the | closing x supersmall at the edge of the screen. Instantly left | the site. | | I read the comments, oh this is for websites. Cool idea. UX just | needs to be top notch. | | That security issue (requiring all data) is a bit too much, dunno | if you can do anything about it though. | lawrencehook wrote: | Thanks for the feedback. | | I realize the mobile UX is terrible. It's only designed for | desktop, for now. | | And yea, the security issue is tough. I'll see if I can reduce | the required permissions. | parentheses wrote: | like everything else on the internet, this needs multiplayer ;) | lawrencehook wrote: | an intriguing idea :) | TheFreim wrote: | This looks very promising. I have one issue and one feature | request for your consideration: | | 1. Could you allow us to change the key bindings? "Alt+Shift+N" | is already taken for a feature in my browser and I cannot find a | way to choose a different shortcut for creating new notes. 2. It | would be very useful if this had a highlighting feature where | notes can be attached to highlights. I am thinking of something | along the lines of how Kinopio (https://kinopio.club) does things | but with highlighting (could also take inspiration from Kinopio | and allow notes to be linked together). | lawrencehook wrote: | Thanks for the feedback. | | 1. I believe extension shortcuts are configurable through the | browser settings. Here are some copy/pasted Google results | | Chrome: 1. Click the three-dot menu from the browser's top- | right corner. 2. From the More tools list, open Extensions. 3. | Click the three-line menu from the top-left corner. 4. Select | Keyboard shortcuts. 5. Click the Edit icon below the | extensions. | | Firefox: 1. Click the menu button. click Add-ons and themes and | select Extensions. 2. Click the Tools for all add-ons cogwheel. | 3. Click Manage Extension Shortcuts in the menu. 4. You will | see the shortcut options (if available) for your installed add- | ons. | | 2. That's a good idea. Not sure how I'd implement it. I'll put | in on the roadmap :) | erickhill wrote: | This is going to be incredibly helpful for me to create reminders | on my work's website and even hobby sites I visit often. Thank | you! | lawrencehook wrote: | Awesome! Thanks for the comment | billsmithaustin wrote: | Wasn't there a startup that did this in the late 90's? | EvanAnderson wrote: | Third Voice[0] did shared annotation in '99. | | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Voice | lawrencehook wrote: | Say Yes to WebStickies :P | xattt wrote: | I thought this was Google's initial goal. | rzzzt wrote: | I remember something where you could doodle and comment on any | website, but pages usually devolved into spam and drawings | of... you can imagine. | bjelkeman-again wrote: | There have been a bunch of these companies. We started one | company in 1999, which we eventually moved to San Francisco. We | built sticky notes which were stored together with a cash copy | of the website on our servers. So one could collaborate around | the notes in a corporate environment. Funding dried up in the | dotcom crash, so we went home again. (An interesting side note | to that was that the CIA wanted our stuff to build something | for the presidents office, but decided against it, probably for | security reasons. At least I got a trip to Washington DC out of | it and meeting CIA CTOs or equivalents. Interesting times.) | | Other companies built public note systems. I think I have seen | another four or five since then that have tried to make a | business around sticky notes in websites, but nothing seems | to... stick (ahem). | | People seem to want to give internal feedback to the content | team on PDFs or in emails. | | One of the original browsers, maybe Netscape, had comments on | pages, but it got removed early on. | | Edit: added note about CIA. | lawrencehook wrote: | That's very cool. | atum47 wrote: | I remember seeing something similar a long time ago. As I can | remember you were able to scribble on a website, and everyone | else using that plugin or website (I don't remember if it was a | software or site) would see what you have drawn. | reaperducer wrote: | _I remember seeing something similar a long time ago._ | | If memory serves me, something similar was very briefly a | feature of Internet Explorer. | | Except with the IE version, everyone else using IE (which was | everyone, even Mac users) could also see everyone else's notes. | | The project was discontinued over concerns about intellectual | property and defacing other people's web sites. | | It was a long time ago (as illustrated by the reference to IE | for Mac ), so I may have some details confused. | rrdharan wrote: | This was genius.com's pitch at one point right after they | secured a massive funding round from a16z I believe - "annotate | the web!". | | Didn't really work out for them: | https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/genius-sold-medialab-w... | prawn wrote: | I recall this too. It was very controversial at the time and | fizzled out. | lawrencehook wrote: | I'm a big fan of Streaks! | andyjohnson0 wrote: | Back in the early 00s there was a browser plugin called Third | Voice that did this. I seem to remember people got concerned | that it would lead to "graffiti-ing" of websites. I don't | remember what happened to it. | xeonmc wrote: | Wasn't it one of the marketed feature of Microsoft Edge before | it was scrapped and replaced with Chromium? | MikeSchurman wrote: | I know this is off topic, but how do people assess the risks of | installing an extension like this? The permissions allow "access | your data for all websites" which includes reading passwords you | type into fields. This extension looks very useful, but in | general I just don't know how to trust it. | jazzyjackson wrote: | so what if it reads your passwords if it has no network | permission to exfiltrate? | lawrencehook wrote: | FYI extensions don't need a network permission to make | network requests. | lawrencehook wrote: | Thanks for the comment. It's a valid concern. | | Chrome and Firefox have a review team for their extension | marketplace, though I believe there are instances of malicious | extensions getting through anyway. | | And while rather labor intensive, another path toward vetting | is examining the source code. I haven't obfuscated it, and | Googling for "view extension source code" has many results. | | And for what it's worth, I can give an assurance that I'm not a | bad actor. | | Maybe relevant: | https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_Ref... | CTDOCodebases wrote: | If you update the extension does it automatically update for | the users or does the user have to manually install the | update? | | Regardless I love the idea of this. | lawrencehook wrote: | There's an option in Firefox to disable auto-updates for an | extension. | | Not as easy in Chrome, but there's ways to do it. For | example here's one: | https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium- | extensio... | jonas-w wrote: | If it is a well known extension i will trust it, but often i | find myself to extract the extension and Look at the "source | code" if it is not open source. | [deleted] | greybox wrote: | I hit the same problem, however it does attempt to explain why | it needs each persmission: Download files and | read and modify the browser's download history -- Required to | export data. Store unlimited amount of client-side data | -- Required to save sticky note data locally. Access | your data for all websites -- Required to load sticky notes on | any page. | [deleted] | tambourine_man wrote: | There's a bug where the click registers 100px so pixels below the | actual target in Safari. Works fine in Chrome and Firefox. | | Great work btw, I could see myself using this daily. | thewebcount wrote: | Oh, it works in Safari? I wish they'd said that on the web | site. I went there, saw "Chrome and Firefox" and immediately | hit the back button. | lawrencehook wrote: | There's a way to get Chrome extensions working in Safari. I | haven't tried it out though. | lawrencehook wrote: | Thank you! And thanks for the feedback | drye wrote: | I wish MacOS sticky notes would actually stick to individual | windows and would move with them when you moved those windows. | Instead, they just float, like all the other windows. | [deleted] | [deleted] | kixiQu wrote: | Reminiscent of https://hypothes.is, but with a distinctively fun | UI :) Cool project! | lawrencehook wrote: | thank you! | [deleted] ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-11-27 23:00 UTC)