[HN Gopher] The distinction between free speech as a legal right...
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       The distinction between free speech as a legal right and cultural
       value
        
       Author : minding
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2022-12-01 22:16 UTC (44 minutes ago)
        
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       | deathanatos wrote:
       | And what of freedom of association as a right and cultural value?
        
         | threatofrain wrote:
         | This article talks about how advertisers pulling out of Twitter
         | contradicts the culture of free speech.
         | 
         | There's freedom of association and then there's "you must buy
         | my stuff". If the tension between freedom of association and
         | freedom of speech is to be negotiated in any direction, surely
         | it's not to the effect of compelling advertisers to buy into
         | the Twitter platform.
        
       | mech765 wrote:
       | Freedom of association captures the idea of freedom of speech
       | better than freedom of speech itself, I think. Private parties
       | are (with some number of government constraints) free to pick who
       | to work with, who to play with, and who to talk with, and who
       | they don't want to do anything with.
        
       | ceejayoz wrote:
       | > The popular radio program "On the Media" feared Musk's support
       | for free speech would lead to a free-for-all environment rife
       | with child pornography. But that's a strawman: child pornography
       | is illegal.
       | 
       | This is itself a strawman.
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       | No one thinks Musk will permit it on Twitter. The gutting of the
       | moderation teams who tackle it is the concern. An underenforced
       | rule is often not a very effective one.
        
       | puffoflogic wrote:
        
         | mikkergp wrote:
         | I think it would be the "cultural value" piece
        
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