[HN Gopher] Upcoming pricing changes (increases) for Cloud Storage
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       Upcoming pricing changes (increases) for Cloud Storage
        
       Author : gotmedium
       Score  : 52 points
       Date   : 2022-12-02 20:25 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | foota wrote:
       | I think this is old news. See the linked faq
       | https://cloud.google.com/infrastructure/services-updates
        
       | alphabettsy wrote:
       | Costs go down and prices go up?
        
       | belltaco wrote:
       | Network egress doubling from 0.01 to 0.02? Seems a bit much.
        
         | FredPret wrote:
         | Egress is why I own a back end server for my projects rather
         | than rent one from AWS/GCP. Unfortunately you still need at
         | least a small instance to host a website.
        
           | tomr75 wrote:
           | hetzner/OVH?
        
             | Volundr wrote:
             | Not OP, but at a previous company we coloed our servers we
             | owned in a local data center. It's surprisingly affordable.
        
         | zxspectrum1982 wrote:
         | It's worse in Asia (x8), Oceania (x8) and Latin America (x14).
         | Wow.
         | 
         | Asia $0.01/GB => $0.08/GB Oceania $0.01/GB => $0.08/GB Latin
         | America $0.01/GB => $0.14/GB
        
       | metalspot wrote:
       | raising prices by 50% on a steadily depreciating asset
        
       | qwertyuiop_ wrote:
       | This is expected. First they offer multi year free usage
       | contracts. Bring customers onboard and then raise prices because
       | they were a loss leader.
        
       | cl0ckt0wer wrote:
       | Latin America egress is going from one cent to fourteen cents? Is
       | that a typo?
        
       | andirk wrote:
       | Curious if issues of deeply centralized (think: monopoly) storage
       | services give airt time for the several decentralized storage
       | options such as Sia [0], File [1], and tried and true torrenting.
       | 
       | [0] https://sia.tech/sia.pdf
       | 
       | [1] https://github.com/filecoin-project/filecoin-
       | docs/blob/main/...
        
       | jmugan wrote:
       | People say you should manage your own data. That's great until
       | you have to demonstrate compliance with security regulations. If
       | I'm a big cloud provider, the more regulations and requirements
       | there are the better it is for my business.
        
         | ilyt wrote:
         | If you mom and pops shop sure, but if you have like... enough
         | people to cover for 24/7, you have enough people for that.
         | 
         | Managing compliance within the app itself is much more work to
         | that.
        
         | dilyevsky wrote:
         | If you run petabyte size storage clusters, engineering for
         | compliance should still be small fraction of dollars saved
         | compared to what you'd be paying in cloud (even with old
         | pricing).
        
       | acchow wrote:
       | Aren't storage drives and networking costs getting cheaper?
       | 
       | Are rising prices like this a result of the market being an
       | oligopoly?
        
         | acdha wrote:
         | My guess is that it's more along the lines of GCP being
         | expected to be profitable. They're a distant #3, possibly #4 in
         | the market so it seems unlikely that they're trying to exploit
         | market position when that'll just give customers another reason
         | to switch to AWS.
        
           | ohashi wrote:
           | Who/what order do you have?
           | 
           | I have to imagine AWS is first. Azure? Who is maybe third
           | above them? Oracle? Alicloud?
        
             | acdha wrote:
             | https://canalys.com/newsroom/global-cloud-services-Q1-2022
             | has it has AWS at 33%, Azure at 21%, and GCP at 8%. Oracle
             | and AliCloud are the two I'd expect to try for that #3
             | spot, especially since that could be a single acquisition
             | if e.g. IBM is interested in selling.
             | 
             | The potential confound here is how you measure it, of
             | course: Microsoft gets a big jump from all of the people
             | using Office 365, Google has G-Suite, etc. but I don't
             | think there's any world in which Google has enough leverage
             | to increase pricing if they don't have to.
        
               | fnordpiglet wrote:
               | Doesn't like Xbox subscriptions and other unrelated
               | malarkey factor into azure too? If you took out all the
               | income statement stuffing I'll bet you aws is in the 80%
               | range.
        
             | makestuff wrote:
             | AWS 34%, Azure 21%, GCP 11%, Alibaba 5%
             | 
             | https://www.statista.com/chart/18819/worldwide-market-
             | share-...
        
         | idunno246 wrote:
         | in the last round of storage price increases, the biggest
         | change for us was reading multi-region storage, like five or
         | six figures a month increase. 'just rearchitect your
         | application.' it seemed to really be a punishment(sin tax if
         | you will) on a behavior they want people not to do. or align
         | revenue with costs i guess. it really sucks working with a
         | partner that thinks punitive actions are ok.
         | 
         | the whole but youre on a contract so it doesnt apply yet is
         | such bs, it just delays the pain, and we lost track of the many
         | places we saw price increases.
        
         | chrismeller wrote:
         | I was thinking it's just relative to energy prices keeping all
         | this infrastructure plugged in, but that only makes sense
         | (kinda) for storage.
        
       | jqpabc123 wrote:
       | This is why you should manage your own data storage if possible.
        
       | nisa wrote:
       | If you don't need all the cloud stuff - Hetzner has also storage
       | server i.e. SX134 with 10x16TB for 250EUR/month for 50EUR/month
       | can order a 10Gbit upgrade and after 20TB traffic it's 1EUR/TB
       | egress. It's an ordner of magnitude cheaper. Of course that's
       | because you are responsible for checking the disks, setting
       | everything up and keeping it up to date - but at least for the
       | problems we have where I work there is absolutely no need to use
       | Google or any other cloud and Hetzner is more than good enough.
        
       | rektide wrote:
       | Hot on the heels of CloudFlare raising prices 25% (and offering
       | an annual plan to drop prices back down).
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33795808
       | https://blog.cloudflare.com/adjusting-pricing-introducing-an...
        
         | tebbers wrote:
         | Cloudflare is ludicrously good value for money, even on the $25
         | a month plan. Even on the free plan you get a huge amount for
         | $0.
        
         | dhdgrygev wrote:
         | However, using Cloudflare R2 to distribute content is still
         | thousands of times cheaper than GCP.
        
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