[HN Gopher] Bettercap - Swiss Army Knife for 802.11, BLE, IPv4 a...
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       Bettercap - Swiss Army Knife for 802.11, BLE, IPv4 and IPv6
       networks
        
       Author : punnerud
       Score  : 179 points
       Date   : 2022-12-03 12:59 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | snvzz wrote:
       | Definitely a pun on Ettercap[0].
       | 
       | 0. https://www.ettercap-project.org/
        
       | usr1106 wrote:
       | Sounds interesting. So far I am mostly happy with Ethereal and
       | mitmproxy. But maybe better stuff is out there? Experiences from
       | users?
        
         | rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote:
         | Bettercap is very different than Wireshark because it's
         | specificaly built with attacks in mind and it's not just a
         | generic packet sniffer.
        
           | alanfranz wrote:
           | In fact bettercap is a very obvious pun on the venerable
           | ettercap, I suppose.
        
             | rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote:
             | Let's not mention ettercap that much, it was built by
             | people with very questionable behaviour(do a google search
             | for Hacking Team company).
        
               | dontbenebby wrote:
               | >Let's not mention ettercap that much, it was built by
               | people with very questionable behaviour
               | 
               | I mean, how far are we gonna take this type of logic,
               | considering the foundations of statistics (eg: Chi-
               | squared distribution) were invented by eugenicists? :-)
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pearson#Politics_and_e
               | uge...
               | 
               | At least they open sourced the code so it can be used by
               | good people as well -- it's better to remove the RCEs and
               | leverage them against your enemies than to keep the
               | knowledge esoteric so that only the privileged can
               | attack.
        
               | rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote:
               | What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or
               | whatever? You're the second person that went there.
               | 
               | I just wanted people to know that ettercap is a tool
               | written by people that can't be trusted when it comes to
               | writing open source software.
               | 
               | Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other
               | company like that???
        
               | anigbrowl wrote:
               | You said it was built by sketchy people but didn't
               | explain what people were supposed to conclude from that
               | (though you have since mentioned 'bugdoors.' So people
               | projected their own guesses onto it, thinking your moral
               | terms (bad people) were a clue to the mysterious hidden
               | subtext.
               | 
               | You'd have been better off saying 'I don't trust
               | ettercap, it was built by xxxx and seemingly innocuous
               | code might exploit obscure vulnerabilities, backfiring
               | severely on those who try to use it.'
        
               | dontbenebby wrote:
               | > _What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or
               | whatever? You 're the second person that went there._
               | 
               | Two thirds is a supermajority in most democracies, so
               | you're the weird one.
               | 
               | > _Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other
               | company like that???_
               | 
               | Not only would I be ABSOLUTELY willing to use NSO's code
               | (or anyone else's) to make a list, check it twice, then
               | go out into the real world like the hit 1984 action film
               | "Terminator" if I felt that was necessary to avert loss
               | of innocent life and I felt that the local police, state
               | police, federal bureau of investigation, and the national
               | guard were all refusing to deal with the issue. (Though
               | I'd do it from a VM so if they try to hack back, I can
               | just roll back to a known good snapshot and save whatever
               | they threw at me to possibly sell at a profit to fight
               | another day.
               | 
               | The United States of America (where I'm posting from for
               | now) is a two party presidential republic, not a
               | multiparty parliamentary democracy, human rights are not
               | "political", and the mother's menu for abusers in a post
               | COVID world is to with the program, or get in the ground
               | with Jeffrey Epstein.
               | 
               | There is no more " _third way_ ", and if you don't want
               | some chicken fingers loving autist making comments _you_
               | are _choosing_ to _perceive_ as weird on Hacker News, be
               | the change you want to see in the world and give said
               | autist something better to do on a Saturday.
               | 
               | - Greg.
        
               | mananaysiempre wrote:
               | ... That makes the code worse how?
               | 
               | I'm not going to stop using or talking about Jordan
               | algebras, say, even though Pascual Jordan was a literal
               | Nazi and a significant participant in the destruction of
               | the centuries-old German mathematics and fundamental
               | physics community (and the respective refugee-fueled rise
               | of the American one). It bears mentioning, certainly, and
               | subtracts from the scientific merit (among other things)
               | of the _person_ , but has nothing to do with the
               | scientific merit of the _notion_.
        
               | rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote:
               | >That makes the code worse how?
               | 
               | I don't trust the authors to have the best intentions
               | anymore, I would assume there's "bugdoors" they know
               | about.
               | 
               | A moot point anyway because ettercap has not been updated
               | for years.
        
               | zweifuss wrote:
               | > "Pascual Jordan was a literal Nazi and a significant
               | participant in the destruction of the centuries-old
               | German mathematics and fundamental physics community (and
               | the respective refugee-fueled rise of the American one)."
               | 
               | That's an oversimplified account of his role in the Nazi
               | era.
               | 
               | https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.8828
               | 58
        
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         | antegamisou wrote:
         | I was about to suggest Wireshark until I looked up Ethereal and
         | discovered it was the former's original name.
         | 
         | Had no idea in the ~15 years I've been using it!!
        
           | usr1106 wrote:
           | Ah sorry, I was still half asleep when typing the comment. I
           | wondered why typing Ethereal felt somehow strange. Right, it
           | has been called Wireshark for a while...
        
           | codaphiliac wrote:
           | Now I feel old
        
       | j1elo wrote:
       | The page about Bluetooth LE [1] shows a video [2] which is part
       | of an article about hacking of a BT lock, but the link [3] is
       | broken and doesn't work. It is readable in the web archive [4],
       | but the archive has lots of broken images.
       | 
       | It's a shame that this content went away so fast... say what you
       | want about the typical blogspot or medium blog, but at least they
       | tend to last longer than some personal websites :-( Can we read
       | that article elsewhere, has it been made available in other site
       | and just not updated in the Youtube description?
       | 
       | [1]: https://www.bettercap.org/modules/ble/
       | 
       | [2]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kzRCGxDKPFA
       | 
       | [3]: https://www.eyeohtee.cheap/dont-worry-about-being-locked-
       | wit...
       | 
       | [4]:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20200221132029/https://www.eyeoh...
        
         | sickmate wrote:
         | https://archive.ph/sh7dE
        
       | hyperific wrote:
       | I want to say that bettercap is at the core of the pwnagotchi
       | 
       | pwnagotchi.ai
        
         | dontbenebby wrote:
         | Funny name, interesting project
        
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