[HN Gopher] Magpies - Smart, witty birds
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       Magpies - Smart, witty birds
        
       Author : mooreds
       Score  : 73 points
       Date   : 2022-12-03 03:54 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | AbleWilliam wrote:
       | A number of years ago my housemate found an injured magpie in the
       | backyard and brought it in. It seemed to have been involved in a
       | fight with something, and while its wing was intact, it had lost
       | enough feathers so as to be unable to fly.
       | 
       | It lived with us for about three weeks as it recuperated, slowly
       | spending more time in the yard and eventually flying away. It was
       | really fun to have around, it would perch on top of my laptop and
       | watch me as I worked, occasionally poking at my head, or flopping
       | down to look at the screen.
       | 
       | It was a very smart and attentive bird. The one time we left it
       | alone in the kitchen, it climbed the shelves and pecked a hole in
       | its birdseed bag. 10/10 would recommend.
        
       | ljf wrote:
       | When I was about 10, we had a semi tame magpie for a while,
       | everyone who met it fell in love with it - it was so personalable
       | and interested in humans.
       | 
       | During a storm it had fallen out of a nest in our garden and I
       | spotted it when I saw my cat approaching it. Tiny and hungry, it
       | was happy to be fed and took bits of cat food from a pair of
       | tweezers.
       | 
       | The next day another fell out - there was no way for us to reach
       | the nest to return either of them, so we brought it in too.
       | 
       | It resolutely refused to eat and thought we were terrifying, even
       | though it's relative would eat in front of it. It died quickly
       | overnight, though we were not sure how long it had been out the
       | nest.
       | 
       | ---
       | 
       | The first magpie, we named Marilyn as I had just learnt the name
       | had normally been a male name before Marilyn Monroe, so I thought
       | it a good unisex name.
       | 
       | It grew really attached to us - we'd feed it as often as it
       | wanted, and it would perch on some bamboo rods that my father
       | fixed up in the kitchen and chatter to use while we were talking.
       | It would fly to my shoulder and back when asked to, and enjoyed
       | being stroked and scratched.
       | 
       | Each night it would fly to a box we had so we could put it to bed
       | and keep it safe from our cats (who generally seemed pretty
       | uninterested as it grew bigger).
       | 
       | For a period we would take it into the garden each day, and it
       | would fly off and return as much as it wanted, coming back into
       | the kitchen through our open door. Then one day it suddenly
       | learnt how to eat and drink by itself - the next day it flew off
       | and we never knowingly saw it again.
       | 
       | I later read that in the middle ages they were common pets - but
       | they would clip their wings for the first few months so they lose
       | the urge to fly away. I am sad it left, but glad we didn't, I
       | hope it lived a good magpie life somewhere.
       | 
       | I still say 'Marilyn' to magpies I meet, just in case it is them
       | :)
        
         | gsinclair wrote:
         | A beautiful story, thank you. They are marvellous birds.
        
         | nicbou wrote:
         | That's the sort of comments that keep me coming back to this
         | website. Now I want a pet magpie! Thanks for sharing.
        
       | seanw444 wrote:
       | There was one that must've set up a nest somewhere near my
       | parking spot at my apartment towards the end of summer. Every
       | time I came home, it would be running around looking for things
       | in the flowerbed nearby, and then come over to me and follow my
       | feet/shoes, and then do soft nips. It was interesting though,
       | because it's like it knew not to peck my ankles (that were
       | covered by my socks) as hard as it did my shoes. Playful in a
       | way.
       | 
       | It would stand on my shoe, and I'd lift it up. It'd bite onto the
       | side of my shoe, and I'd play tug of war with it.
       | 
       | At one point I was diagnosing a car battery issue, and when I had
       | the hood popped, it got territorial over _my_ car. I kept trying
       | to lead it away by enticing it with something distracting a
       | little ways away from the car, and then running back to check my
       | battery. But it would return.
       | 
       | A couple times, I pulled out of my spot to head to work in the
       | morning, and it'd ride on top of my car for a few seconds before
       | I started driving too fast.
       | 
       | They're such interesting birds. I kinda miss that one.
        
         | KineticLensman wrote:
         | (I volunteer at a raptor conservation Trust).
         | 
         | Many birds will play with objects in their aviaries to varying
         | degrees. Vultures (Hooded and Egyptian) will pull on shoe
         | laces. Owls and Kites will fly off with a sponge if you take
         | your eyes off it while cleaning their aviary. Caracaras are
         | about as safe to have around as a raccoon. Many birds will look
         | inside a bucket or try to pull it over.
         | 
         | These birds vary a lot in their intelligence, as indicated by
         | their ability to solve problems to access food.
        
           | rolph wrote:
           | what might you think of trading posts?
           | 
           | e.g use a visual cue, such as a dollar bill, coupled with
           | food reward. attempt to cargo cult the birds, into
           | replicating conditions associated with reward. to the end,
           | birds will find the cue [$] and bring it to the trade post
           | /vending machine.
           | 
           | the bird doesnt need to "know" any material value, other
           | than; a particular item, at a particular place, allows food
           | discovery
        
             | KineticLensman wrote:
             | Not many dollar bills in aviaries, unfortunately. We
             | already have to watch out for the free-flying birds diving
             | into the crowd during a display to steal sandwiches,
             | sausage rolls, etc. Probably best not to train them to go
             | for wallets
        
             | jfk13 wrote:
             | There was the guy who trained his local magpies to collect
             | discarded bottle caps...
             | https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/magpies-
             | traine...
        
       | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
       | Related: Training Australia's Dangerous Magpies [1]
       | 
       | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXYf2DTOsvI
        
       | lxe wrote:
       | I've come to really enjoy observing birds in my yard. Their
       | behavior creates this interesting little drama that's fun to just
       | pay attention to. Especially when war breaks out. Crows VS Owls
       | is quite a show.
        
       | COGlory wrote:
       | I used to love magpies, until I got a dog.
       | 
       | I now hate magpies.
        
       | chasil wrote:
       | La Gazza Ladra.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_gazza_ladra
        
       | papandada wrote:
       | I worked at a tourist destination in Canada one summer during
       | school. A foreigner came up to me and asked, "what are these
       | _beautiful_ birds we keep seeing? "
       | 
       | Well ma'am, those are magpies, and we all complain about them. I
       | still laugh about that, but I do think it's sweet to be able to
       | look at even magpies through a fresh perspective and see they are
       | beautiful, and wonderful, in their own way.
        
       | xeonmc wrote:
       | Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow." ...
        
       | Pr0ject217 wrote:
       | Magpies: my least favorite animal.
       | 
       | They're obnoxious and aggressive.
        
       | eatonphil wrote:
       | I've seen them in Korea (they are large, and everywhere) but
       | sadly not in the (Eastern) US.
       | 
       | https://www.eagletimes.com/lifestyles/of-a-feather-why-no-ma...
        
       | sliken wrote:
       | Had a community of magpies in my back yard. They'd often
       | collectively yell at me when I was in the back yard. One day my
       | dog found something, obviously pleased with herself. I found an
       | unhurt baby bird and nest that had been blown down. I put the dog
       | in, got a cardboard box and duct tape, and put the bird+nest back
       | in the tree securely.
       | 
       | Shortly later, saw the mom feeding the baby.
       | 
       | They never yelled at us again, and would often peek in our
       | windows at us, or hang out in front of our glass door looking in.
        
       | pleb_nz wrote:
       | Not to be confused with Australian magpies which although also
       | smart are not related to European and american magpies.
        
         | EdwardDiego wrote:
         | And are giant arseholes when they're nesting. In the country
         | town I grew up in, a key footpath when walking to school would
         | end up with 3 - 4 magpie nests in trees alongside it.
         | 
         | So us kids would compete to see who could last the longest
         | walking past them, as soon as you ran, or put your backpack
         | over your head to protect yourself, you lost.
         | 
         | No-one ever made it past the third nest without breaking.
        
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       | LordHeini wrote:
       | Loosely related:
       | 
       | The German name of Magpie is Elster.
       | 
       | They are known for liking and 'acquiring' shiny things like
       | coins.
       | 
       | The German online portal for tax declaration is called Elster as
       | well.
       | 
       | Apparently it stands for ELektronische STeuerERklarung :)
        
         | 867-5309 wrote:
         | shame the 'shiny things' was debunked as a myth
         | 
         | https://www.exeter.ac.uk/news/research/title_406690_en.html
        
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