[HN Gopher] How to Speak Honeybee
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       How to Speak Honeybee
        
       Author : yshklarov
       Score  : 59 points
       Date   : 2022-12-06 23:19 UTC (23 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.noemamag.com)
        
       | hammock wrote:
       | >Perhaps Seeley's most startling finding was that, in choosing a
       | new home, honeybees exhibit sophisticated forms of democratic
       | decision-making, including collective fact-finding, vigorous
       | debate, consensus building, quorum and a complex stop signal
       | enabling cross-inhibition, which prevents an impasse being
       | reached
       | 
       | And he discovered this with just a camera and computer vision/ML!
        
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       | culi wrote:
       | Good time to plug the incredible Honeyland documentary.[0] It's
       | rather short and doesn't have any explicit lesson in mind but
       | somehow it was one of the few documentaries I find myself
       | regularly thinking about over and over and learning new lessons
       | from.
       | 
       | [0] https://honeyland.earth/
        
       | hammock wrote:
       | _> Contradicting prevailing scientific views, his findings
       | demonstrated that honeybees possessed learning, memory and the
       | ability to share information through symbolic communication, a
       | form of abstract language. As he wrote to a confidante in 1946:
       | "If you now think I'm crazy, you'd be wrong. But I could
       | certainly understand it."
       | 
       | >Frisch was right to worry. When he finally went public, many
       | scientists dismissed his research and argued that insects with
       | such tiny brains were incapable of complex communication. The
       | American biologist Adrian Wenner launched a challenge to Frisch's
       | theory, arguing that bees locate foods solely by odors, a theory
       | that was subsequently proved wrong, although odors are important
       | signals for bees. Eventually, Frisch's results were definitively
       | and independently validated, and he was awarded the Nobel Prize
       | in 1973._
       | 
       | The Nobel committee called the dismissal of Frisch's novel ideas
       | "shameless vanity"
        
       | calebm wrote:
       | The more conscious you are, the more you can see consciousness in
       | others (even when those others are very different from you)
        
       | anigbrowl wrote:
       | Fine writing, but a deplorable lack of references.
       | 
       |  _As one researcher cautiously noted in a landmark study of a
       | newly identified bee signal_
       | 
       | How do you fill a whole paragraph with a quote from a study but
       | not link to the study, or or include the title, journal, or
       | author?
       | 
       | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096098221...
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       |  _In the mid-2000s, Seeley convinced a computer engineer who was
       | intrigued by the similarities between bee swarms and driverless
       | cars [...] After two painstaking years, the algorithm finally
       | worked:_
       | 
       | WHO? WHERE? WHAT?
       | 
       | https://www.goldengooseaward.org/01awardees/honey-bee-algori...
       | 
       | I am sick to the back teeth of the wealthy parts of the media
       | (Noema is hiring an editor at $110-160k for 5 years experience,
       | which is pretty generous) pumping out content while short-
       | changing their readers. Daily news outlets are constantly writing
       | stories about court cases without ever citing the names of the
       | cases, and gatekeeping their access to public documents for an
       | easy buck. While I greatly enjoyed this article, I'm also
       | mystified by the decision of the author or the editors to
       | withhold germane information that would profit the reader.
        
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       | bigoljim wrote:
       | This reminded me of the Bee Dance Game[0] on Arizona State
       | University's site.
       | 
       | [0] https://askabiologist.asu.edu/bee-dance-game/play.html
        
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