[HN Gopher] How to Speak Honeybee ___________________________________________________________________ How to Speak Honeybee Author : yshklarov Score : 59 points Date : 2022-12-06 23:19 UTC (23 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.noemamag.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.noemamag.com) | hammock wrote: | >Perhaps Seeley's most startling finding was that, in choosing a | new home, honeybees exhibit sophisticated forms of democratic | decision-making, including collective fact-finding, vigorous | debate, consensus building, quorum and a complex stop signal | enabling cross-inhibition, which prevents an impasse being | reached | | And he discovered this with just a camera and computer vision/ML! | [deleted] | culi wrote: | Good time to plug the incredible Honeyland documentary.[0] It's | rather short and doesn't have any explicit lesson in mind but | somehow it was one of the few documentaries I find myself | regularly thinking about over and over and learning new lessons | from. | | [0] https://honeyland.earth/ | hammock wrote: | _> Contradicting prevailing scientific views, his findings | demonstrated that honeybees possessed learning, memory and the | ability to share information through symbolic communication, a | form of abstract language. As he wrote to a confidante in 1946: | "If you now think I'm crazy, you'd be wrong. But I could | certainly understand it." | | >Frisch was right to worry. When he finally went public, many | scientists dismissed his research and argued that insects with | such tiny brains were incapable of complex communication. The | American biologist Adrian Wenner launched a challenge to Frisch's | theory, arguing that bees locate foods solely by odors, a theory | that was subsequently proved wrong, although odors are important | signals for bees. Eventually, Frisch's results were definitively | and independently validated, and he was awarded the Nobel Prize | in 1973._ | | The Nobel committee called the dismissal of Frisch's novel ideas | "shameless vanity" | calebm wrote: | The more conscious you are, the more you can see consciousness in | others (even when those others are very different from you) | anigbrowl wrote: | Fine writing, but a deplorable lack of references. | | _As one researcher cautiously noted in a landmark study of a | newly identified bee signal_ | | How do you fill a whole paragraph with a quote from a study but | not link to the study, or or include the title, journal, or | author? | | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096098221... | | _In the mid-2000s, Seeley convinced a computer engineer who was | intrigued by the similarities between bee swarms and driverless | cars [...] After two painstaking years, the algorithm finally | worked:_ | | WHO? WHERE? WHAT? | | https://www.goldengooseaward.org/01awardees/honey-bee-algori... | | I am sick to the back teeth of the wealthy parts of the media | (Noema is hiring an editor at $110-160k for 5 years experience, | which is pretty generous) pumping out content while short- | changing their readers. Daily news outlets are constantly writing | stories about court cases without ever citing the names of the | cases, and gatekeeping their access to public documents for an | easy buck. While I greatly enjoyed this article, I'm also | mystified by the decision of the author or the editors to | withhold germane information that would profit the reader. | [deleted] | bigoljim wrote: | This reminded me of the Bee Dance Game[0] on Arizona State | University's site. | | [0] https://askabiologist.asu.edu/bee-dance-game/play.html ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-12-07 23:00 UTC)