[HN Gopher] BlackRock 2023 Outlook [pdf]
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       BlackRock 2023 Outlook [pdf]
        
       Author : baal80spam
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2022-12-08 20:42 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.blackrock.com)
        
       | qclibre22 wrote:
       | There's old saying in finance: "Never trust an analyst".
       | 
       | If the analysis is so great, it won't be distributed on the
       | internet for free. These financial management firms are always
       | "talking their book", that is they cherry pick their data to
       | support their portfolio.
       | 
       | Black Rock has seriously underperformed compared to XLF ( ETF for
       | finance) year to date.
       | 
       | Perhaps they are just looking for excuses.
        
       | aftbit wrote:
       | Leaving aside the question of whether it's portfolio appropriate
       | or a good idea, how does an individual reasonably invest in
       | global investment grade credit or inflation protected bonds?
       | 
       | I see TIPS in the US paying at ~1.5% while 5 year T-notes are at
       | 4+%. Assuming that inflation will continue to drop, but remain
       | above the target, wouldn't we expect to see T-bills and T-notes
       | continuing to outperform TIPS?
       | 
       | Surely I am misunderstanding something...
        
         | makestuff wrote:
         | On interactive brokers you can modify trading permissions to
         | trade fixed income products. I assume other brokers have
         | similar settings.
        
         | drexlspivey wrote:
         | TIPS yield are real yields (already adjusted for inflation)
         | while T-Notes aren't so they aren't really comparable. In
         | essence you are getting 1.5% on top of inflation.
        
         | daydream wrote:
         | Starting with I bonds is your best bet as an individual. Though
         | there's a cap on how much you can buy per year.
        
       | canadiantim wrote:
       | BlackRock, foxes and hen house
        
       | jcampbell1 wrote:
       | BlackRock has been promoting ESG, and Larry Fink has been
       | aggressively defending it publicly. ESG is questionably
       | compatible with being a fiduciary. What really bothers me about
       | Fink is that BlackRock has been buying up every ESG consulting
       | shop, and selling corporations on ESG and implicitly dangling
       | capital injections as a carrot. I sincerely hope this strategy
       | backfires.
        
       | mushufasa wrote:
       | here's the direct link
       | https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/whitepaper/bi...
        
       | stareatgoats wrote:
       | > Central banks are deliberately causing recession by
       | overtightening policy to tame inflation, in our view.
       | 
       | I didn't read the whole report, but a cursory glance revealed the
       | above quote in the lede. Which seems interesting to me, that one
       | of the largest (maybe the largest?) investment management firms
       | in the world has a different take on inflation taming than
       | central banks. Maybe it's only natural; they see a willed
       | recession on the horizon which will obviously hurt their bottom
       | line.
       | 
       | Maybe they don't even have an alternative strategy, but I'm
       | personally wondering if hiking interest rates on top of soaring
       | energy prices is really the best we can come up with. Is it?
        
         | RC_ITR wrote:
         | It's a matter of different incentives.
         | 
         | The Fed is _trying_ to reduce prices in asset markets.
         | 
         | Asset prices growing faster than our ability to make things is
         | a sure-fire cause of inflation (more stock-based billionaires
         | chasing the same amount of houses makes all house prices go up,
         | as an extreme example).
         | 
         | Blackrock just wants to have as many assets under management as
         | possible (that's how they make money), and one easy way to
         | goose that number is to have your existing assets go up in
         | price (and vice versa for falling prices).
         | 
         | So yeah, Blackrock is rightly mad at the Fed and will probably
         | say a lot of mean things about them.
         | 
         | Doesn't mean the Fed isn't doing the right thing though.
        
           | nly wrote:
           | It's not billionaires pushing up house prices but the middle
           | class .. like me
           | 
           | I'm in the top 1% of UK salaried income and a family home is
           | not affordable in an area I'm willing to commute from.
           | 
           | To buy a family home I'd be paying almost as much as a whole
           | year of the UK annual after-tax s just in stamp duty
           | (transaction tax).
           | 
           | Things have gotten out of hand.
        
             | mistrial9 wrote:
             | if a person with access to much more credit than you, and
             | has more cash than you, is competing with you to get a
             | house when there are not many houses, how can you be the
             | cause of the increase in price?
             | 
             | secondly, if the entire house market is so over-priced that
             | only people that have a house to sell, and new cash, and
             | substantial access to credit are the ones getting any house
             | at all, how is the cause of the price rise the buyer?
             | 
             | thirdly, if the total capital in the system has been
             | multiplied by QE and network effects on assets, such that
             | you the middle-class buyer are not able to afford even a
             | bid, how is that the result of the middle-class house
             | buyer?
        
             | majormajor wrote:
             | Top 1% of income isn't middle class.
             | 
             | Lot of folks in the top 1% who have a lot of equities
             | investments - those get inflated, makes it easier to borrow
             | more, pours gas on bidding wars.
        
               | nly wrote:
               | High income has nothing to do with class or wealth.
        
               | Scoundreller wrote:
               | Arguably, if you have to go to work for money and need
               | loans to buy shelter, you're not upper class.
        
             | [deleted]
        
             | jakeinspace wrote:
             | I don't believe you're middle class mate. Though I realize
             | that the British definition is more grounded in upbringing
             | and family history than the American usage.
        
               | osrec wrote:
               | Upper middle class may be more accurate.
        
           | wwweston wrote:
           | Blackrock is, of course, free to start making things, or to
           | increase their assets by buying from people who are.
        
             | FridgeSeal wrote:
             | Ppppphhh meaningfully contribute instead of just leeching
             | out passing value like some kind of parasite??? What a
             | crazy idea.
        
             | Scoundreller wrote:
             | Can't do A in a suit, and can't do B when outflows are your
             | problem and nobody will loan you their money for free to
             | buy more stuff.
        
         | HDThoreaun wrote:
         | This is pretty much the same view central banks have, just
         | stated from a different perspective. Inflation happens when
         | demand outpaces supply, so to curb it you either increase
         | supply or reduce demand. Central banks control monetary policy
         | which really only affects demand, so when they want to lower
         | inflation they cause less goods to be demanded by increasing
         | unemployment.
        
         | mdcds wrote:
         | Just something to think about: Fed Funds rate follows the
         | 2-year treasury with a lag.
         | 
         | What BlackRock calls "deliberately causing recession", I would
         | call "following the signal from the bond market"
         | 
         | Chart:
         | https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24UST2Y&p=W&b=1&g=0&id=p4...
        
           | mdcds wrote:
           | Actually, the relationship with 6-month treasury is even
           | stronger:
           | 
           | https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24UST6M&p=W&b=1&g=0&id=p1.
           | ..
        
           | kitrose wrote:
           | This is all circular because the treasuries are being priced
           | based on the expectation of the rate changes.
        
         | keewee7 wrote:
         | BlackRock is an investment management firm that sells index
         | funds. They want a bullish market but with just enough
         | uncertainty and doubt that investors pick their index funds
         | instead of hand picking stocks.
         | 
         | Governments and central banks have other incentives than
         | BlackRock. For governments temporary recession is better than a
         | state of long-term high inflation.
        
         | tdullien wrote:
         | I don't think that they have a different take than the central
         | banks, but the central banks don't advertise openly how
         | interest rate hikes "tame inflation".
         | 
         | In the end, you cannot have any durable inflation without wage
         | increases - supply shocks can cause temporary inflation, but
         | long-term you need a cycle of wage increases that lead to price
         | hikes to perpetuate inflation.
         | 
         | The way that tightening policy tames inflation is by choking
         | off enough of the economy to ensure that demand for labor is
         | reduced to the point where labor no longer has bargaining power
         | to obtain wage increases.
         | 
         | This is clear to anyone that follows economics, but it's
         | sufficiently inflammatory that it's not expressed in plain
         | language. You tame inflation by tanking the economy just enough
         | so that employees lose their bargaining power, and hopefully
         | not more - but you can't achieve that without creating a
         | certain level of unemployment, otherwise employees keep their
         | bargaining power.
        
       | shaburn wrote:
       | Considering these guys are paid to do virtually nothing managing
       | capital and are being blindsided by ESG backlash, you may want to
       | take their report with a shaker of salt.
        
       | cschmidt wrote:
       | I find it kind of strange that the products many of us have our
       | money in are so static. I use the Schwab robo-advisor. It re-
       | balances to a target allocation. But moving to high inflation
       | regime with a recession on the horizon, with the fed hiking
       | rates, and absolutely nothing changes in my portfolio.
       | 
       | They are doing tactical over- and under-weighting of sectors and
       | asset classes in this report. What can retail investors invest in
       | that does the same thing as the big guys?
        
         | jonwinstanley wrote:
         | Presumably they are reducing your risk to ensure your money is
         | safe?
        
           | cschmidt wrote:
           | No not all. They rebalance only to get you back to a target
           | allocation. I think that's true of virtually all robo
           | advisors, and many human advisors too.
        
         | tdullien wrote:
         | Robo advisors don't model interest rates at all. They
         | essentially just estimate volatility of asset classes and do a
         | round of Markowitz Portfolio optimization; they are easy to
         | build (it takes a few days only). There is very little smarts
         | behind them.
         | 
         | They exist because in the past, private banks wealth management
         | would charge customers 2% of assets per year for running the
         | optimizer once a month (which made sense in the 1970s when only
         | banks had computers big enough to do it).
        
           | cschmidt wrote:
           | So what is a better alternative for a retail investor to do
           | top level portfolio optimization?
        
       | candyman wrote:
       | These guys are legacy.
        
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